Sex after infidelity

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There is hope, but that hope needs to be in God. Have you read"FIREPROOF". It is an awesome book and shows how one can work to gain back what was almost lost. It takes a LOT of work, and a lot of doing things you don't feel like, but with God in the foundation of what you do, there is more than hope. God bless hon
The movie is faster than the book...

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I'm pretty surprised to hear about Joseph too, because it didn't happen, at least not in my Bibles. I really hate being legalistic but what Jesus said about divorce was this: Matt 5- If a man divorces his wife other than adultery he causes her to commit adultery, and anyone who marries her commits adultery. Mark 10- If a man divorces his wife and marries another he commits adultery and if she divorces her husband and marries another then she commits adultery.
Jesus is saying that in cases except for "other than adultery"

maybe it should be read like this

If a man divorces his wife (other than adultery) he causes her to commit adultery, and anyone who marries her commits adultery. Mark 10- If a man divorces his wife and marries another he commits adultery and if she divorces her husband and marries another then she commits adultery...unless he or she has committed adultery in which case they can be divorced.

isn't he saying that if you divorce your spouse for some reason other than adultery, you can not remarry? idk. that's how i read it. i might be wrong though:confused: i read it three times.
 
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Being recently divorced myself this is one of the things that bothers me the most. I struggle daily with this burden of being a divorced woman. My husband divorced me technically but that doesn't change anything in my opinion. You are so right.....be careful who you marry. I will have to live the rest of my life knowing that I can not remarry without committing adultery. You may not have to be with the person you married forever but you really are connected forever.
hi rainin. i can't see that reading. if your husband divorced you because he had been with someone else, doesn't that mean he is, like, dead to you? your marriage is annulled?
 
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hi rainin. i can't see that reading. if your husband divorced you because he had been with someone else, doesn't that mean he is, like, dead to you? your marriage is annulled?
I don't know if he had been with anyone else or not. I did have suspicions that he may have been. I wanted the divorce....he said he didn't but filed just a few days after I told him I was done taking any more from him. I really don't know how to read all that the Bible teaches on this. The word is clear that adultery is the only excuse for divorce.....I don't know where I fall into that catagory. If I decide one day to remarry, I would have the guilt and burden of being guilty before God. It almost seems easier just to stay single and give the rest of my life to the Lord for His work.
 
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I don't know if he had been with anyone else or not. I did have suspicions that he may have been. I wanted the divorce....he said he didn't but filed just a few days after I told him I was done taking any more from him. I really don't know how to read all that the Bible teaches on this. The word is clear that adultery is the only excuse for divorce.....I don't know where I fall into that catagory. If I decide one day to remarry, I would have the guilt and burden of being guilty before God. It almost seems easier just to stay single and give the rest of my life to the Lord for His work.
ya, i see that. if it's not cut and dried, like adultery or if he just left you out of the blue. i feel ya.
there's something to be said for being single, i can say that right now. i'll probably want to marry again one day though. i don't like being alone every night. which is why i work the night shift. but that's kind of a cop-out because then i sleep half the day away. idk. it'll work out for all of us one way or another.:)
God bless you.
 
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ya, i see that. if it's not cut and dried, like adultery or if he just left you out of the blue. i feel ya.
there's something to be said for being single, i can say that right now. i'll probably want to marry again one day though. i don't like being alone every night. which is why i work the night shift. but that's kind of a cop-out because then i sleep half the day away. idk. it'll work out for all of us one way or another.:)
God bless you.
Im feeing pretty ok about being single. Getting married again just doesn't feel like a natural thing to do anymore. I don't know if that comes from the way I interpret the teaching on this or if it has come from my own experience....maybe both. When I was your age, I felt as you do...that I wanted to be married at some point. That feeling is just kind of gone from me.....and I feel fine with it. Coming to terms with the divorce has gone much better than I had ever expected it to and I feel no desire to go beyond what I believe Jesus teaches on this. It works for me anyway. The Lord has given me peace and rest....Im accepting it.
 

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How about sex after fidelity? How does that work out?
 
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Father God I pray that you give Salty227 the healing that she needs. Lord that when she reaches out for help she can receive your grace and mercy. Father help her to make the right decision about her marriage and give her peace about that decision in her heart, so that her heart may not be divided but made whole in you. Amen.
 
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hi rainin. i can't see that reading. if your husband divorced you because he had been with someone else, doesn't that mean he is, like, dead to you? your marriage is annulled?
I'm sorry if I have led anyone astray. I don't want to put any stumbling blocks in anybody's way. I was simply stating what the Law was on the issue. It was a completely different time, culture, class system, and social system. Marriages were arranged like business deals. I'm not sure what the property rights were but it seems the women didn't have any. They were property. It was the men's responsibility to care of the wife. If he put her aside she would most likely, have to marry someone else, be a prostitute, sell herself into slavery or starve. Who knows? I was just stating the Law. We aren't under the Law. We are under grace. If it causes you to feel guilty, then don't do it. Do what is good and righteous in love. If someone is living for God I think He will tell them specifically and make it known through prayer. If they don't live for God and care what He thinks, it won't matter anyways. The whole point was that marriages should never be considered disposable. It is supposed to be a joining of two people into one to be a unit. No longer two but one, that is the strength of the family and ultimately society.
 
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I'm sorry if I have led anyone astray. I don't want to put any stumbling blocks in anybody's way. I was simply stating what the Law was on the issue. It was a completely different time, culture, class system, and social system. Marriages were arranged like business deals. I'm not sure what the property rights were but it seems the women didn't have any. They were property. It was the men's responsibility to care of the wife. If he put her aside she would most likely, have to marry someone else, be a prostitute, sell herself into slavery or starve. Who knows? I was just stating the Law. We aren't under the Law. We are under grace. If it causes you to feel guilty, then don't do it. Do what is good and righteous in love. If someone is







living for God I think He will tell them specifically and make it known through prayer. If they don't live for God and care what He thinks, it won't matter anyways. The whole point was that marriages should never be considered disposable. It is supposed to be a joining of two people into one to be a unit. No longer two but one, that is the strength of the family and ultimately society.
How are we to know what to do?
 
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I'm not entirely convinced that there is a blanket statement that covers every situation. Most people think God wants all of us to be "happy", but that's not scriptural. We are supposed to lay down our life and pick up our cross. Narrow is the gate and not all find it. I believe not everybody is called into marriage. The world tells us to get a job, find a wife/husband have some kids and perpetuate society and stimulate the economy. The life demonstrated by our forefathers was quite a bit more adventurous than living in the suburbs. We are called to adventure and unknown, to not plan in advance but to wait on the Lord. Most of us have traded our crosses for a mortgage and serve our masters, the bank. We live as the world, in the world and wonder why we can't hear God, even though most of wouldn't recognize His voice anyway. What ever conflict I have to face these are the questions I ask. Is this God honoring? Is this for love of others or selfish ambition? I fast and pray and if God doesn't answer, I will wait until he does. I believe when we trust Him, He is faithful. I don't know if this helps but thats what I do. Be blessed rainin.
 

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I believe, from my reading of scripture, that God wants us to have life and to have it more abundantly. From my own personal perspective that's a description for happiness. God loves his children and He certainly is concerned for their happiness. Speaking as a father I certainly pray for my daughter to have the happiness that can only flow from God's love.
 
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I'm not entirely convinced that there is a blanket statement that covers every situation. Most people think God wants all of us to be "happy", but that's not scriptural. We are supposed to lay down our life and pick up our cross. Narrow is the gate and not all find it. I believe not everybody is called into marriage. The world tells us to get a job, find a wife/husband have some kids and perpetuate society and stimulate the economy. The life demonstrated by our forefathers was quite a bit more adventurous than living in the suburbs. We are called to adventure and unknown, to not plan in advance but to wait on the Lord. Most of us have traded our crosses for a mortgage and serve our masters, the bank. We live as the world, in the world and wonder why we can't hear God, even though most of wouldn't recognize His voice anyway. What ever conflict I have to face these are the questions I ask. Is this God honoring? Is this for love of others or selfish ambition? I fast and pray and if God doesn't answer, I will wait until he does. I believe when we trust Him, He is faithful. I don't know if this helps but thats what I do. Be blessed rainin.
Your words make me feel like Im on the right path. Thank you for the blessing.
 
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From my interpretation of that verse I understand that Jesus is offering the abundant life (zoe). It is the fullness that is the eternal life. I too am a father and I want them to be joyful and successful at what they do. As a father you also understand that you don't want them skipping their chores, and homework, and eating candy and drinking pop every night although it will make them happy. Some people go through life not depriving themselves of what they want to make themselves happy regardless of consequences. I think their is more references in scripture about the Christian walk being difficult. We are to be crucified with Christ. Pick up our cross. Paul was more deserving of most to be happy. According to him he was beaten, whipped, stoned, shipwrecked, stranded in the water for 24 hrs, robbed, hungry, cold, and naked, betrayed and ultimately killed. I do not wish any of this for my kids so I'm assuming God parents His children differently than me.
 
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Not very well apparently.
Granted sex is enjoyable, however, the world has turned it into something its not. The lie that sex=happiness has marketed just about every product, filled movie theaters, broken marriages, shattered dreams, caused people to be unnecessarily proud or discouraged, ruined careers, caused murders and just about every other form of debauchery. Lusts of the flesh is Satan's trump card, and we need to see this if we want victory and deliverance.
 

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Granted sex is enjoyable, however, the world has turned it into something its not. The lie that sex=happiness has marketed just about every product, filled movie theaters, broken marriages, shattered dreams, caused people to be unnecessarily proud or discouraged, ruined careers, caused murders and just about every other form of debauchery. Lusts of the flesh is Satan's trump card, and we need to see this if we want victory and deliverance.
What is sex? I am a male, that is a sex if I am not mistaken. I can be enjoyable. Please advise. Female inquiries only please.
 
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Granted sex is enjoyable, however, the world has turned it into something its not. The lie that sex=happiness has marketed just about every product, filled movie theaters, broken marriages, shattered dreams, caused people to be unnecessarily proud or discouraged, ruined careers, caused murders and just about every other form of debauchery. Lusts of the flesh is Satan's trump card, and we need to see this if we want victory and deliverance.
All I can say to that is, Amen.
 
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I gained a lot of respect for hillary Clinton after the scandal and to some extent i think God blessed her and vindicated her for the level of maturity she was able to demonstrate. However, i'd never tell another woman what she should do in a situation like this, i've never known this but i can only imagine how hurtful this type of betrayal can be.

One thing i must say however, why on earth would you subject yourself to meeting that woman over and over in Church? That is NOT right at all. That's like a constant reminder and the knife being turned again and again! How could you possibly heal???I would definitely insist on moving to another Church and never having to deal with that person again. It's like abusing yourself and it's really unfair. I'm surprised your husband hasn't felt uncomfortable with this, it's really selfish! ggrrrr......
 
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I gained a lot of respect for hillary Clinton after the scandal and to some extent i think God blessed her and vindicated her for the level of maturity she was able to demonstrate. However, i'd never tell another woman what she should do in a situation like this, i've never known this but i can only imagine how hurtful this type of betrayal can be.

One thing i must say however, why on earth would you subject yourself to meeting that woman over and over in Church? That is NOT right at all. That's like a constant reminder and the knife being turned again and again! How could you possibly heal???I would definitely insist on moving to another Church and never having to deal with that person again. It's like abusing yourself and it's really unfair. I'm surprised your husband hasn't felt uncomfortable with this, it's really selfish! ggrrrr......
Look at post #23. They do not attend the same church. As for Hillary don't give her too much credit. There has been some interesting testimony about her. She will never go to court because it's an interest to national security, but Cathy O'Brien has made some bold claims that have not been refuted.