Should I Divorce My Wife???

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remus777

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Lee Lee, don't respond to Barly. Just ignore her. Most of what she says is negative with the intent of bringing people down. Don't feed into it. Not only that, most of what she says is false. We cannot pass judgment on people's salvation. Only the Righteous Judge who has all the facts to a person's life is in a position to judge.

I have no idea who the person was speaking to when they said something about lying about someone's wife cheating. Where did that come from???? But even with lying, God is the righteous judge. Rahab lied to save the Israelite spies and God saved her. Let God be God. You continue being a faithful servant and leave the others to answer to God. You have done much good with your posts and I thank God for you.

I know what they mean. I also know that you like to argue, notice the person I was actually calling out has not replied? I will not argue this with you but I do have a question, when you stand on the day of judgement before God and he asks you about this conversation how are you going to reply?
 
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So my wife left us (me and our two kids, though her step kids, she has been in their life since they were 2 and 6; they are 17 and 13 now). She has not spoken a word to them. She refuses to speak to me. She stopped going to our church. She told me when I went to the house in our neighborhood that she wants to "find myself" that she never really got to know herself. Long story short, I consented to a restraining order because I did not want her embarrassing herself in court (I am an attorney) so I cannot make any more attempts.

Meanwhile, the household is managing, but I wonder how long. Having faith in God, I do not worry. He is sustaining us without her income. When my faith falters, I feel like filing for divorce and alimony for the months she was responsible. Would I be wrong if I file for divorce considering she has left/abandoned the home and is not talking? Based on Scriptures, she may have fallen into the category of non-believer. But I believe that we are not to divorce for any reason....but I'm not sure.
Just out of curiosity, what happened with your first marriage?
 
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remus777

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We were young when we married (20). After a few years of marriage she moved out to be with an older man. She wanted someone who was into drinking, partying, and having fun. I divorced her after she became pregnant by him and told me she was not coming back. Had I known what I know now I probably would have waited for her. After a few years I realized that the marriage could have been saved had I not acted on impulse.


Just out of curiosity, what happened with your first marriage?
 
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We were young when we married (20). After a few years of marriage she moved out to be with an older man. She wanted someone who was into drinking, partying, and having fun. I divorced her after she became pregnant by him and told me she was not coming back. Had I known what I know now I probably would have waited for her. After a few years I realized that the marriage could have been saved had I not acted on impulse.
Two women walk out on you? And both of them left the kids? hmmmm.............
 
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remus777

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I know. Makes one think, "what is wrong with him?" On the surface it seems that I must have done something wrong, but seriously, what can anyone do to cause a mother to leave children? I think with my first wife, we were young, she trusted me with the kids (I cook, lead out in family worship every night, focus on education) she was okay with leaving for a while. At age 24 I was "boring". I don't blame her. My current wife, I can list some reasons as to why she may have left. She did it every year for seven years. But the truth is, I do not know why. Only God does. But even through all of this I praise His name because I have learned something that has drawn me closer to Him.

Two women walk out on you? And both of them left the kids? hmmmm.............
 

wind

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remus,

I am very saddened to hear of the turmoil that is playing out in your daily lives. You seem to be very much a family in crisis.
I worry for your children. Twice abandoned now by a mother figure. First their biological mother and now their stepmother. I hope you are seeking counseling for them.

It is beyond absurd to not speak to your wife for 4months...half a year? What would happen if you tried to contact her or get her a message? Or would that be a complete violation of the restraining order? and...
I am curious as to why you would consent to a restraining order. . .just sounds peculiar. I don't believe I've ever known an attorney to admit culpability even when at fault - - and when innocent?! If you made reservations for a resort at one hour and then she was gone several hours later when did this occur?


Anyway, I'm not trying to go back through all you've written or nail you to the cross. I do know from my own life experiences and marriage that there are two sides to every story and the truth is usually somewhere between.
Truth is, only you know if this is something that should be fixed now or can be put off. My suggestion: Be pro-active. Face it now. Get some counseling for yourself- independent of your church.
Most importantly, do what is best for those kids. They need you now.
Best of luck and I'll be rooting for you and yours.

Psalm 121

A song of ascents.

[SUP]1 [/SUP]I lift up my eyes to the mountains—
where does my help come from?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]My help comes from the Lord,
the Maker of heaven and earth.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]He will not let your foot slip—
he who watches over you will not slumber;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]indeed, he who watches over Israel
will neither slumber nor sleep.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]The Lord watches over you—
the Lord is your shade at your right hand;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]the sun will not harm you by day,
nor the moon by night.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]The Lord will keep you from all harm—
he will watch over your life;
[SUP]8 [/SUP]the Lord will watch over your coming and going
both now and forevermore.
 
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remus777

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Thank you, Wind. The children's biological mother came around after her affair ended and they have a relationship with her. As I mentioned, had I not filed for divorce we would have been back together. The kids see her every week. But they have been to counseling.

If I tried to contract her she will probably report that as a violation of the order. I consented to the order to save her from embarrassment. As I said, I was so afraid of her not getting the order and then her acting out against me even more that I just waived the right to a trial and agreed not to contact her. But I will get that overturned. Even when I do, I will not contact her. She does not want me to contact her.

You are right. There are two sides to every story. I would love to hear her side. But she is not talking.

It will all work out. I believe it will.

remus,

I am very saddened to hear of the turmoil that is playing out in your daily lives. You seem to be very much a family in crisis.
I worry for your children. Twice abandoned now by a mother figure. First their biological mother and now their stepmother. I hope you are seeking counseling for them.

It is beyond absurd to not speak to your wife for 4months...half a year? What would happen if you tried to contact her or get her a message? Or would that be a complete violation of the restraining order? and...
I am curious as to why you would consent to a restraining order. . .just sounds peculiar. I don't believe I've ever known an attorney to admit culpability even when at fault - - and when innocent?! If you made reservations for a resort at one hour and then she was gone several hours later when did this occur?


Anyway, I'm not trying to go back through all you've written or nail you to the cross. I do know from my own life experiences and marriage that there are two sides to every story and the truth is usually somewhere between.
Truth is, only you know if this is something that should be fixed now or can be put off. My suggestion: Be pro-active. Face it now. Get some counseling for yourself- independent of your church.
Most importantly, do what is best for those kids. They need you now.
Best of luck and I'll be rooting for you and yours.

Psalm 121

A song of ascents.

[SUP]1 [/SUP]I lift up my eyes to the mountains—
where does my help come from?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]My help comes from the Lord,
the Maker of heaven and earth.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]He will not let your foot slip—
he who watches over you will not slumber;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]indeed, he who watches over Israel
will neither slumber nor sleep.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]The Lord watches over you—
the Lord is your shade at your right hand;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]the sun will not harm you by day,
nor the moon by night.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]The Lord will keep you from all harm—
he will watch over your life;
[SUP]8 [/SUP]the Lord will watch over your coming and going
both now and forevermore.
 

wind

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I have no idea what I would do in your shoes except seek counsel with a licensed therapist, search my heart - and knowing myself try desperately to contact my spouse. I believe it would be valuable to you to atleast seek counsel.


A few years back my husband was unfaithful. It was short, ugly and horribly painful. He spent exactly one night at this other woman's home. It was the most excruciating thing in the world to watch him throw a few things in an overnight bag and walk out that door saying only, "I'll be back for more things later. Just need enough to get through the next few day's work."
I told him, "You don't have to do this." (It was the culmination of a month-long whirl-wind affair).

At that time I had no idea how long until I would speak to him again, see him again. Seemed the power was all in his hands. I was willing. He was not. If he would only talk to me. . .
During this month long process I had began working with a pair of marriage counselors about this issue. The female counselor gave me a woman's perspective - strength and a voice, helped me to realize what was and was not reasonable in this situation. The male counselor gave me very valuable insight into what my husband might possibly be thinking and feeling and why he would go to her when he could stay with me. The male counselor said that after he began the affair my husband did not feel worthy of me and it was easier to run to the person he committed adultery with than to face the shame of the hurt he had caused me (and himself,etc). We had also counseled with this duo before the affair and definitely after.

Anyway, I know this is getting long. My husband said, "I'm going to her house. Go to your mom's." (As if I had nowhere else to go or no one else to be). However, I had no income of my own - guess he figured I could not manage . . .but if he truly left and did not come back it would not really have been for him to decide. I called my mother and she said, "Stay and fight for your marriage. He will not respect you if you run home to mommy."
So that's what I did.


I called him the next day. I started doing all the legwork to bridge the gap, find out what was going on in his mind. Turns out this other woman was all but black-mailing him with an imaginary child. "I'm pregnant," she says. She wasnt. As he told me more of the details nothing added up and only a month in...no one knows that much about a pregnancy. And she had even threatened to file rape against him if he didnt stick around for her and this "child!"

I thought, "How could you have been so foolish! This woman, this idiot...these things don't even make sense. . .but they say men cheat down. . ."
I waited it out. He came back.

BUT he came back that day. We talked all throughout that day while he was at work and when he went to retrieve his belongings from her house that evening he had an officer meet him at her home so that there would be no difference of opinion.

Had he stone-walled me for 4months I believe even my Christian counselors would have said it is not unreasonable to consider that the marriage might be dissolving.


I am sure you understand that there are deep and long-standing issues within your marriage. It just doesn't get to a point like this otherwise. And deep and long-standing issues in marriage generally stem from issues within the individual.

I only say this because I have found it to be true. There were deep undercurrents building up for years that led to the infidelity. BUT MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS STARTED WITH US INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE WE EVER MET EACH OTHER. IT'S THE THINGS YOU LEARN AND BRING INTO RELATIONSHIPS.

But we are much better now. It is several years out. We've been together for about 20 years and I think we can make it.
We love each other and spend most of our time together and with family. Life is good, much better.

Hang in there - and do the work!
 
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remus777

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Beautiful. Very inspiring story. Thanks for sharing.

I am in therapy and counseling. This is a very unique situation in that she has shut down. We were very active in our church, but now she refuses to speak to anyone at length. She told our pastor that she still loves me dearly and cannot talk to me because she knows that she will come home if she were to talk to me. She explained to a dear friend that I am a "word wizard" and that I will trick everyone I speak with into thinking that she is crazy. They asked her if she would be willing to just sit in and have a therapist do all the talking and she said, "seeing him (me) would make me want to have sex with him and I cannot do that." She even told someone that I would hypnotize the therapist and have them believing everything I say. She does not speak to anyone who knows me because she feels I have hypnotized them. I know it sounds crazy and I hate saying things she has told other people because it makes her sound crazy, but that is where we are. She lives a mile away from our house, but shops miles away for fear she will see me or the kids. Literally, no one can do anything. So many people have tried to reach out to her. There were around 400 people at our wedding. No one can convince her to even sit down and talk about what is bothering her, what did I do? what are the issues? At least no human. Everyone has tried.

I have no idea what I would do in your shoes except seek counsel with a licensed therapist, search my heart - and knowing myself try desperately to contact my spouse. I believe it would be valuable to you to atleast seek counsel.


A few years back my husband was unfaithful. It was short, ugly and horribly painful. He spent exactly one night at this other woman's home. It was the most excruciating thing in the world to watch him throw a few things in an overnight bag and walk out that door saying only, "I'll be back for more things later. Just need enough to get through the next few day's work."
I told him, "You don't have to do this." (It was the culmination of a month-long whirl-wind affair).

At that time I had no idea how long until I would speak to him again, see him again. Seemed the power was all in his hands. I was willing. He was not. If he would only talk to me. . .
During this month long process I had began working with a pair of marriage counselors about this issue. The female counselor gave me a woman's perspective - strength and a voice, helped me to realize what was and was not reasonable in this situation. The male counselor gave me very valuable insight into what my husband might possibly be thinking and feeling and why he would go to her when he could stay with me. The male counselor said that after he began the affair my husband did not feel worthy of me and it was easier to run to the person he committed adultery with than to face the shame of the hurt he had caused me (and himself,etc). We had also counseled with this duo before the affair and definitely after.

Anyway, I know this is getting long. My husband said, "I'm going to her house. Go to your mom's." (As if I had nowhere else to go or no one else to be). However, I had no income of my own - guess he figured I could not manage . . .but if he truly left and did not come back it would not really have been for him to decide. I called my mother and she said, "Stay and fight for your marriage. He will not respect you if you run home to mommy."
So that's what I did.


I called him the next day. I started doing all the legwork to bridge the gap, find out what was going on in his mind. Turns out this other woman was all but black-mailing him with an imaginary child. "I'm pregnant," she says. She wasnt. As he told me more of the details nothing added up and only a month in...no one knows that much about a pregnancy. And she had even threatened to file rape against him if he didnt stick around for her and this "child!"

I thought, "How could you have been so foolish! This woman, this idiot...these things don't even make sense. . .but they say men cheat down. . ."
I waited it out. He came back.

BUT he came back that day. We talked all throughout that day while he was at work and when he went to retrieve his belongings from her house that evening he had an officer meet him at her home so that there would be no difference of opinion.

Had he stone-walled me for 4months I believe even my Christian counselors would have said it is not unreasonable to consider that the marriage might be dissolving.


I am sure you understand that there are deep and long-standing issues within your marriage. It just doesn't get to a point like this otherwise. And deep and long-standing issues in marriage generally stem from issues within the individual.

I only say this because I have found it to be true. There were deep undercurrents building up for years that led to the infidelity. BUT MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS STARTED WITH US INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE WE EVER MET EACH OTHER. IT'S THE THINGS YOU LEARN AND BRING INTO RELATIONSHIPS.

But we are much better now. It is several years out. We've been together for about 20 years and I think we can make it.
We love each other and spend most of our time together and with family. Life is good, much better.

Hang in there - and do the work!
 

wind

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Apr 23, 2012
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perhaps if what you say is true it is time for an evaluation. the correct psychotropic medication can sometimes restore otherwise distorted thinking. I do not believe malice or stigma need be attached. It can be achieved with discretion. Perhaps get a sibling or one of her parents involved?
 
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remus777

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I agree. The thing is her mom is schizophrenic/paranoid. Her mom will not and cannot talk about this. Her father, though he has not been diagnosed with anything, is detached from everything. We have reached out to him and he has lied and said he doesn't know anything about anything and is afraid to talk to his daughter about it for fear she will cut him off. Her brother, 11 months older than she is, cut her off like she has done us, about 7 years ago. He refuses to speak to her. I contacted him and he didn't even know she had left.

Most of these things are signs that I should have seen as red flags. So in the end, it is my fault. No one to blame but myself.

perhaps if what you say is true it is time for an evaluation. the correct psychotropic medication can sometimes restore otherwise distorted thinking. I do not believe malice or stigma need be attached. It can be achieved with discretion. Perhaps get a sibling or one of her parents involved?