Sleeping with multiple women isn't cheating, it's POLYGAMY!

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So, the reason I made this is because I had a few questions about the whole Polygamy thing. With all the shows that are out there, (like Big Love and Sister Wives) it makes me wonder if this way of living is becoming more accepted. So, although I'm not completely ignorant, I would like to hear some of your opinions. Some of these may seem like common sense, just to let you know. So for starters, here are a few of my questions.

-Is Polygamy a sin, and why? What if they are married under God and believe in their heart it is right, does it still count as a sin?
-Is there any way a woman could keep from being jealous of the multiple wives her husband has? Could a marriage like this function properly and last long-term?
-What do you think about the more children one man bears, the closer he is to being Godly? Is there any truth to that?
- If there is no sex involved with the other women in the marriage, aside from the first wife, is it still a sin?


If there's anything else you would like to add with this, please feel free to.
 

homwardbound

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all have free choice so to each their own. for me I am not for it
 
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It certainly doesnt help the gender ratio for men who want to get married. Although its rare and expensive.
 

RickyZ

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Biblically, when you “make two into one”, wink wink, that one you are now one with, you are now responsible to, eternally. It is that ‘making one’ connection that establishes a “spousal” relationship. So yes by sleeping with multiple women (or men) you are creating polygamist relationships.
 
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I know it says in the Bible "one man and one woman". I'm not planning to be involved with a Polygamist or anything and I'm definitely not saying that Polygamy is right, because what the Bible says is the only truth. I was just wondering what other people thought of it and if they could share their views to clear up some of the seemingly grey areas.
 
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King Solomon begs to differ.
 
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I read a good book called "Banner Under Heaven". It is about life in a polygamous cult. It is far from glamorous. Most of the boys have to be expelled because there are not enough females. Marriages were assigned. Often young teen girls were given to much older men.
 
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I read a good book called "Banner Under Heaven". It is about life in a polygamous cult. It is far from glamorous. Most of the boys have to be expelled because there are not enough females. Marriages were assigned. Often young teen girls were given to much older men.


Reminds me of that gated mormon community that was eventually shut down by the govt.
 
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...the bible is built on a foundation of polygamy. The patriarchs were all mostly polygamous. Many were 'blessed' by God with a number of wives and children (Gideon, Moses etc). Some early Christian churches still practised it. Monogamy only came about via the Roman/Greek model, and subsequently Augustine - a catholic; who had issues about his 'sexual past' ... however although the Romans/Greeks practised monogamy ie: having only one 'wife' by law, they engaged in much deviant activities, such as mass orgies and engaging with the same sex; which the bible condemns most of all ie: pornos is the worst form of 'fornication' with 'adultery'..., while Israel stayed with their wives and looked after them all..., properly...

...it was not; and is not a 'sin' nor is it adultery, if consenting couples agree this is the lifestyle they choose, and adhere to biblical principles in doing so...I believe it is something both should desire for it to work properly...If that is what they choose; 'good luck to 'em I say'... and God be with them :)
 
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Ok time for some clarity. God made one man and from him He made one woman and the two became as one flesh. This is the biblical model. Fast forward 2500 years to the Apostle Paul's letter to Timothy. The requirements for a Pastor, Bishop, Deacon, these are also the requirements to be a man. He must be the husband of but one wife. This doesn't mean he can only be married once and never again. God made a way for remarriage that is not sinful for this reason.

So what does it mean then. It means that the husband is to be a one woman man. He eyes are upon his wife and her alone. His heart belongs to his wife and her alone. His body belongs to her and her alone just as her body belongs to him and him alone.

Now some will point to Kings David and Solomon having multiple wives. Anyone care to point out where God ever said it was good in his sight for man to do this? I will tell you its not there. Look for example of all the trouble both Kings faced. David was a lousy father. Like Jacob he also had a favored wife. So did Solomon.

So lets flip this on its ear. What if your wife took multiple husbands. Anyone want to try that one out? I know i could not handle it.

Polygamy is against everything the scriptures teach. It is an abberation of the family.

In Christ,

Bishop SEH
 
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Wasn't Solomon supposed to be extreamly wise though?
 
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Ok time for some clarity. God made one man and from him He made one woman and the two became as one flesh. This is the biblical model. Fast forward 2500 years to the Apostle Paul's letter to Timothy. The requirements for a Pastor, Bishop, Deacon, these are also the requirements to be a man. He must be the husband of but one wife. This doesn't mean he can only be married once and never again. God made a way for remarriage that is not sinful for this reason.

So what does it mean then. It means that the husband is to be a one woman man. He eyes are upon his wife and her alone. His heart belongs to his wife and her alone. His body belongs to her and her alone just as her body belongs to him and him alone.

Now some will point to Kings David and Solomon having multiple wives. Anyone care to point out where God ever said it was good in his sight for man to do this? I will tell you its not there. Look for example of all the trouble both Kings faced. David was a lousy father. Like Jacob he also had a favored wife. So did Solomon.

So lets flip this on its ear. What if your wife took multiple husbands. Anyone want to try that one out? I know i could not handle it.

Polygamy is against everything the scriptures teach. It is an abberation of the family.

In Christ,

Bishop SEH
...I disagree..., that is not biblical, but the conditioning of modern nominal Christian thinking. Adam and Eve only had one son too, by your logic, does that mean they could not have more by the biblical standards of the time?

...the greek word 'mia' is normally translated in the bible as meaning 'first'. In the verse you quoted, regarding elders, that is the 'only place' in the bible by all accounts where it was chosen 'by them' to be translated into meaning 'one'. Mia can mean 'first or one'...but in all other places in the bible, it has as far as I know been translated as meaning 'first'. So, the verse can and most likely means 'the husband of the first wife', meaning never to have divorced - and dealt 'treacherously' with the wife of ones youth, which makes a lot more sense...Translators have incorporated bias into many verses, as is painfully evident in a number of passages...

You need to relate David, Solomon and Jacob in the correct context. Davids sin was causing Uriah to be killed so he could marry Bathsheba, ... God told David, if he were just to ask, He would have given him many more wives and other things...
Solomon did not just add wives, he 'multiplied them'...., but that was not his actual 'sin' the bible indicates, but the fact that he took alien pagan wives, that took his heart from God...
Jacob was tricked into marrying Leah against his will ... Im sure that if anyone in a monogamous marriage was tricked they would not be happy in it either....

Moses, Gideon, and others were 'blessed by God' with wives and children...all happy and content...

...as you know, the biblical model is not one of polyamory, but of polygamy, the man being the patriarch was allowed to add a reasonable amount of wives and in fact concubines. There were actual laws for this in the Old Testament. It is just man hobbyhorsing with roman/greek and part gnostic thinking, regarding monogamy --- and polygamy being 'against Gods Will'....If it was, don't you think Moses would have been told by Him? and Abraham (Keturah was his real second wife, not Hagar, she was just a concubine he probably didn't want) and Gideon, and the father of the prophet Samuel who was a son of a second wife, etc etc...

...a woman is only to have one husband by biblical/Godly principles --- that was the Will and Way of God; as her nature is a receptive one --- while the male has a different nature...

...its best to just say things as they are...modern conditioned nominal Christian thinking does not make for 'fact' regardless of how religious and good sounding it may seem to the conditioned mindset...Polygamy was an accepted practise endorsed by God via Moses...., otherwise most of those in the OT would have been guilty of an unrepentant sin of 'alleged adultery', which was not and is not the case...
 
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...actually I would say that polygamy if anything is 'for' the family, it seems to be all 'about family'....many of the tribes and families of Israel expanded and became great because of it..., providing they kept to the Godly standards and guidelines, which some did and some did not...
 

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Wasn't Solomon supposed to be extreamly wise though?
if you read the book of lamentations he claims its one of his biggest mistakes. The fact that he had so many wives and concubines was the reason he departed from the lord's presence as an older man and began to worship the concubines' idols. All that wisdom and fell to sin against God because of his desire for women...:rolleyes:
 
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if you read the book of lamentations he claims its one of his biggest mistakes. The fact that he had so many wives and concubines was the reason he departed from the lord's presence as an older man and began to worship the concubines' idols. All that wisdom and fell to sin against God because of his desire for women...:rolleyes:
...it was 'foreign wives' that did it regarding Solomon...

1Ki 11:1 Now King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women,
1Ki 11:2 from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the sons of Israel, "You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods." Solomon held fast to these in love.
1Ki 11:3 He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away.
1Ki 11:4 For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and his heart was not wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.
1Ki 11:5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites.
1Ki 11:6 Solomon did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, and did not follow the LORD fully, as David his father had done.
1Ki 11:7 Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable idol of Moab, on the mountain which is east of Jerusalem, and for Molech the detestable idol of the sons of Ammon.
1Ki 11:8 Thus also he did for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and sacrificed to their gods.
1Ki 11:9 Now the LORD was angry with Solomon because his heart was turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice,
1Ki 11:10 and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods; but he did not observe what the LORD had commanded.
 
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It is allowed but it is not practical. Anything that prevents you from serving God is a harmful distraction. Even with one wife you are divided. You are limited financially and with time. If your desire on earth is to merely satisfy your flesh then you are more than likely missing your opportunities to serve the Lord. When the main occupation was farming and bloody battles were the norm it made sense to have large families. Different time and circumstances let alone mentality. You wouldn't want your churches filled with men whose only reason for being there is because Christianity supports polygamy. If you ask me along with lessening the bond between one man and one woman, it is just a slippery slope. If those polygamist marriages were all perfect I don't think Paul would have mentioned that those who want to serve God and lead others be monogamous.
 
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Cain, Abel and Seth. Genesis 5:3-5 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

Your theology is mistaken in more ways than you can imagine. All I can do is flee this thinking less I become as you are.

In Christ,

Bishop SEH
 

homwardbound

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King Solomon begs to differ.
I doubt very seriously he was having sex with them not 600 concubines and 300 wifes, and was as well before any law. AlsoI am sure he got much wisdom from all that he did here on earth, and stated it is better to have only one wife. Also Ecclesiastes is written by him showiing allthings man does here on earth is Vanity, Futile, without God Just as Paul confirms this is 1 cor 13
And I say how can a branch disconnected from the tree of life have any life?
 

homwardbound

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I read a good book called "Banner Under Heaven". It is about life in a polygamous cult. It is far from glamorous. Most of the boys have to be expelled because there are not enough females. Marriages were assigned. Often young teen girls were given to much older men.
I wonder could that be the drive for sex have choked out true Love?
 

homwardbound

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Ok time for some clarity. God made one man and from him He made one woman and the two became as one flesh. This is the biblical model. Fast forward 2500 years to the Apostle Paul's letter to Timothy. The requirements for a Pastor, Bishop, Deacon, these are also the requirements to be a man. He must be the husband of but one wife. This doesn't mean he can only be married once and never again. God made a way for remarriage that is not sinful for this reason.

So what does it mean then. It means that the husband is to be a one woman man. He eyes are upon his wife and her alone. His heart belongs to his wife and her alone. His body belongs to her and her alone just as her body belongs to him and him alone.

Now some will point to Kings David and Solomon having multiple wives. Anyone care to point out where God ever said it was good in his sight for man to do this? I will tell you its not there. Look for example of all the trouble both Kings faced. David was a lousy father. Like Jacob he also had a favored wife. So did Solomon.

So lets flip this on its ear. What if your wife took multiple husbands. Anyone want to try that one out? I know i could not handle it.

Polygamy is against everything the scriptures teach. It is an abberation of the family.

In Christ,

Bishop SEH
Agreed and who is not guilty of adultery? Who has not lusted after? Do we not see our own depravity in being under Law, that being under it brings a curse, for if we obey insay nine parts but can not obey in the tenth,we are obligated to obey all the Law, and no flesh can or could after the fall, except Christ Jesus who was born of a Virgin, a life gibikng Spirit. This is how he came was to gives us life in the Spirit, and bedead to flesh law, because none of can obey by flesh not perfectly as Christ did for us.

Matthew 5:28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
I know I have been and freely admit, confess to this, onlyone who is perfect and that is God. Now I am notby any means promoting sinful behavior.
Rather I am promoting Spirt behavior where nosin can occur
[h=3]1 John 2[/h]King James Version (KJV)

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.