The Dangers of "Disney/Maybury" Christianity

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Elijah19

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My church is filled with people who are avid fans of the works of Walt Disney and the Andy Griffith Show.

Why is this disturbing to me? Please understand, it's not because I have an issue with these venues of entertainment. What disturbs me is how my brother's and sisters in Christ are using these shows as a standard for their faith. Whenever anything comes along that rattles their cage or shakes things up, they always fall back on their favorite cliche'. When something bad happens, they say, "Go back to Disney. You can't go wrong with Disney values." And when something new or untraditional happens, they say, "Take it back to Maybury. Maybury values are the best values."

What's my problem with that? Well, my problem is that "Disney and Maybury values" are not the ultimate standard. The Bible's values are. I have yet to even once hear my church members say "Take it back to the Bible. You can trust the Bible, because it's God's word." They hang tight on a grand total of one or two verses per "Bible study" then turn on a Disney or Maybury show when they want to teach the class because "you can't go wrong with Disney/Maybury" as they say.

Look, I don't really have an issue with these shows, but frankly they are not the ultimate standard. God's word is the ultimate standard, and they are not really hanging tight enough onto it. There seems to be this impression that somehow the sugar coated world of Disney and the innocent values of Maybury reflect the Utopian Bible Standard of Living.

Let me just say this: They Don't!... Not Even Close. Disney pre-assumes a sugar coated world where the good guys always win and there is no grunge and grime to deal with. We do not live in a world like that, and Jesus said we would have trials. The Bible prepares us for these. Disney disarms us to them by glazing over the ugly. As for Maybury, it's good to have a strong set of traditional values, no problem. But Maybury does not convey the actual Bible standard either. It's a good standard, perhaps. But not good enough, not high enough, to hold fast to.

Let me say it again: Disney/Maybury values are NOT Christian values, though they may be similar and even beneficial. But we can't afford to live in a sugar coated fantasy world where we put fantasy and tradition over real, applicable faith that faces the tough spots.

The real danger of a Disney/Maybury faith is that it breaks the minute it comes into contact with the stronger forces of evil in our world. A faith that is based on the values of Disney/Maybury will not stand because it is not Bible-based, but man based. It will break and lose under worldly pressures because it has no real strength, no real backbone that accepts the fact that there will be trials to deal with and sludge to trudge through.

I am worried that other Christians may fall into this trap, so I just want to say on this family forum... don't do it. Stick with the Bible first. By all means, use Disney and Maybury as supplements if it helps you get the moral lesson across, but do not make these shows or any other rendition of Utopian media a standard reference point for Christian values.

If you do, you will give the viewers a flimsy Christian spine because they will not have the Bible to depend on when the times which would crush Disney/Maybury Christianity under the Devil's foot come along. And believe me when I say, there is no Christianity that is easier for the Devil to crush underfoot than the Disney/Maybury kind!
 
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ember

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ummm..I have never heard of what you are writing about

may I ask what denom this church is?

ps...there is plenty in Disney that is disturbing...not good...Andy Griffith...well, unless someone watches reruns, I wouldn't know
 
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VioletReigns

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tourist

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My feelings are that while the Disney values are secular in nature they are not detrimental. Mayberry values are completely harmless. Yes, Disney sugar coats things but I don't feel that they are overtly deceptive.

While Disney and Mayberry are fictional I could think of worse values to emulate.

Find a new church.
 

tourist

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ummm..I have never heard of what you are writing about

may I ask what denom this church is?

ps...there is plenty in Disney that is disturbing...not good...Andy Griffith...well, unless someone watches reruns, I wouldn't know
Watching Andy Griffith reruns is like a helping of Aunt Bea's cooking.
 

Reborn

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Watching Andy Griffith reruns is like a helping of Aunt Bea's cooking.

Wasn't Andy Griffith a show that was on before they invented color?



Kidding, I use to watch it with my dad, good times.
BTW, what ever happened to that Ron Howard kid?
 
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cmarieh

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Wasn't Andy Griffith a show that was on before they invented color?



Kidding, I use to watch it with my dad, good times.
BTW, what ever happened to that Ron Howard kid?
From what I understand he is a producer now.
 

tourist

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Wasn't Andy Griffith a show that was on before they invented color?



Kidding, I use to watch it with my dad, good times.
BTW, what ever happened to that Ron Howard kid?
Yeah, Opie is quite the Hollywood movie director and producer.
 
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cmarieh

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Yeah, Opie is quite the Hollywood movie director and producer.
It is hard to believe how old he is now and he is definitely bald as a cucumber. But being bald isn't a negative thing, in fact it shows they are full of wisdom and grace.
 

santuzza

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Sounds to me like you need a new church. Any congregation that would put TV show values above the Bible is not a place to worship and fellowship, IMHO.
 

presidente

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I've never heard of a church that had people who said such things. Disney values are that the kids are right and the parents are wrong, that kids should be dating at 10 years old, and that good guys can do witchcraft, too. Those aren't good values.
 
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Elijah19

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My point exactly, presidente! But that's what my church members keep saying. Disney isn't a good thing!
 

Nautilus

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For some reason Im feeling like people are just missing the point of real-life examples. Its not like they are preaching a disney gospel. But using extra-biblical sources to illustrate a point is just fine.
 
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Galahad

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Just wait for the denominations to emerge: Father Knows Best, Leave it to Beaver, I Love Lucy, The Brady Bunch, and for those more to the left - The Partridge Family.
 
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atwhatcost

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Disney as standards?

Bambi -- forest fire leaves him an orphan, so he has to struggle through life with an equally as clueless rabbit and skunk.

Dumbo -- orphaned early by stealing him away from his momma.

Pinocchio -- loved greatly so he runs away and lies.

Mary Poppins -- magic makes kids behave.

Once Upon a Time -- evil people might change, but not really, but maybe, but not really, well maybe. Good people do evil things, but regret it, but do evil things again, but regret it and try harder, and then do evil things again....

Have I missed something? What Disney standards?
 

tourist

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Disney as standards?

Bambi -- forest fire leaves him an orphan, so he has to struggle through life with an equally as clueless rabbit and skunk.

Dumbo -- orphaned early by stealing him away from his momma.

Pinocchio -- loved greatly so he runs away and lies.

Mary Poppins -- magic makes kids behave.

Once Upon a Time -- evil people might change, but not really, but maybe, but not really, well maybe. Good people do evil things, but regret it, but do evil things again, but regret it and try harder, and then do evil things again....

Have I missed something? What Disney standards?
Growing up I remember watching the Wonderful World of Disney every Sunday night and there was no lasting damage. I read once that the most Christian family on television is the Simpsons.
 
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mystikmind

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I don't automatically discriminate against knowledge, or values or wisdom because of where it came from (among humans that is). I look at it for what it is worth or not, on it's own merits.