The Evils Of Adoption

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forgivenandloved

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I realize I'm going to get an earful over this, but.....

In north america and the western world anyhow, if women don't want babies they should stop sleeping around. The only 100% fool proof method of birth control is to not have sex. We live in a culture where every form of birth control is advertised, advised and sold, yet very few people think about the free method. I guess its too inconvenient. It gets in the way of a persons fun.

I'm not including rape in the above. That is a whole other story.
Yes very true but that something thats never going to happen so we might as well make the best of a bad situation and adopt unwanted children to loving homes.
 

Pheonix

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That was kind of my point in a previous reply.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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Im not sure how a mother could give up her child. I think its really selfish, how dare someone bring a child into this world then have absolutely no means to take care of it, then just give it away, here you take the kid i made and you take care of it, cause im either to high or to broke to.

I got pregnant at a young age, and everyone tried to tell me because im young i just need to give the baby up, give it away. I thought no way! This is my child, i made it i take responsibility for it. I think if it was harder to just give up your baby whenever you wanted, maybe stupid people would stop reproducing
 
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forgivenandloved

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Im not sure how a mother could give up her child. I think its really selfish, how dare someone bring a child into this world then have absolutely no means to take care of it, then just give it away, here you take the kid i made and you take care of it, cause im either to high or to broke to.

I got pregnant at a young age, and everyone tried to tell me because im young i just need to give the baby up, give it away. I thought no way! This is my child, i made it i take responsibility for it. I think if it was harder to just give up your whenever you wanted, maybe stupid people would stop reproducing
so lets go for abortion right? some people only have the choice to give up the child or abortion.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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so lets go for abortion right? some people only have the choice to give up the child or abortion.

I never said abortion anywhere in my post. soooo not sure where your getting that from. Those people that knew they wouldnt be able to take care of their child, should not have had a child in the first place, especially if they knew full well, they would not be able to support it
 
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forgivenandloved

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I never said abortion anywhere in my post. soooo not sure where your getting that from. Those people that knew they wouldnt be able to take care of their child, should not have had a child in the first place, especially if they knew full well, they would not be able to support it
I was being sarcastic lol . :) I'm saying sometimes getting pregnant is an accident and sometimes adoption is better for a child and for some if that wasn't an option they'd go for abortion.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I was being sarcastic lol . :) I'm saying sometimes getting pregnant is an accident and sometimes adoption is better for a child and for some if that wasn't an option they'd go for abortion.

Getting pregnant i dont believe is ever an accident. If your having sex you know that is a possibility
 
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forgivenandloved

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Getting pregnant i dont believe is ever an accident. If your having sex you know that is a possibility
I got pregnant while I was taking BC trust me it was a definite accident lol :)
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I got pregnant while I was taking BC trust me it was a definite accident lol :)

not really, cause you were having sex correct. So you obviously know sometimes the consequences of having sex is getting pregnant, and birth control is NOT 100 percent effective, everyone knows that
 
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forgivenandloved

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not really, cause you were having sex correct. So you obviously know sometimes the consequences of having sex is getting pregnant, and birth control is NOT 100 percent effective, everyone knows that
Well, I did not so I guess not everyone knows that.
 
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forgivenandloved

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...................................... things that make you go hmmmmmm
If you knew me, you'd understand why I didn't know that. I had to learn everything by experience.
 
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you are forgiven and Loved!
 
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I happen to think you are pretty wonderful!
 

QuestionTime

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Im not sure how a mother could give up her child. I think its really selfish, how dare someone bring a child into this world then have absolutely no means to take care of it, then just give it away, here you take the kid i made and you take care of it, cause im either to high or to broke to.
What a fantastic post Nod! I agree that adoption can be a very selfish act by a Birthmother. It's an easy escape from the consequences of her actions.

In a Christian society, the two youths responsible for this behavior would be required to be married and raise the child with help from their families. Regardless, even now-a-days in many countries, there are many options for young parents who don't have help from family or from the male responsible for the pregnancy.

I got pregnant at a young age, and everyone tried to tell me because im young i just need to give the baby up, give it away. I thought no way! This is my child, i made it i take responsibility for it. I think if it was harder to just give up your baby whenever you wanted, maybe stupid people would stop reproducing
I have to applaud your character Nod! You decided to do the right thing, regardless of how difficult it was for you!

You also confirm my testimony in this thread; that Birthmothers are manipulated into giving up their children by society. They are lied to and told that adoption is the best option, and are pressured and made to feel selfish for keeping the child.

God bless you Nod!

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I have a friend, shes only 23, who is about to give birth. her boyfriend was unfaithful and too immature, he decided to move to another country leaving her all alone. She's been having doubts about keeping the kid because shes worried she wont be able to love him/her when it arrives. Now whats wrong with that?

Why would you want to keep a child if you KNOW you can't look after it, or love unconditionally. If you can't do that, then he best thing to do is give it p to someone who can love it and look after it. It makes no sense to bring up a child in an unloving broken home.

God bless
 
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Kay_Kay

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There is nothing wrong with adoption. I had a boyfriend who was adopted by a loving, Christian family because his mother was a teenage girl that got pregnant while hooked on heroin. The result of him being adopted was that he was taken out of a broken home where he most likely would have grew up with substance abuse and possibly other abuses. Is that better then growing up with Christ being focus? Or do you think drugs being the focus would have been better? Keep your statistics, I know a real breathing man who benefited from a loving family reaching out and calling him "son".
 
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iraasuup

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I have felt compelled to create this thread because much deception abounds in the Christian world regarding adoption.

Christians typically think that adoption is a wonderful thing and that if Jesus was alive today he'd adopt several children himself. Nothing could be further from the truth! The reality is that if Jesus was alive today he would be healing and helping provide for the mothers and enabling them to keep their children. That's what Jesus would do.

One thing that I just can't understand is how Christians can be so solid on the scriptural concept of marriage; that a man and woman when brought together become one flesh, and that they should not be seperated under any circumstance. This they adamantly maintain is the will of God. However, when it comes to a child that was created in the womb - flesh of flesh in the truest sense, one flesh in the truest sense - that it is perfectly acceptable that the baby be separated from it's mother, should the mother feel it's best to give up her child, or should some government agency decide that this is best, or even worse the parents of the young mother feel this is best against the mother's will.

Doesn't anyone see how ridiculous this is?

I believe that it is the will of God in heaven that the Mothers and their children stay together for life, and that His children ought to work to this end, rather than adoption. Of course if a mother has passed away then adoption is a wonderful thing.

Here are a few scriptures (I'm a KJV guy but anyway)

Behold, children are a heritage from the LORD, the fruit of the womb a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one’s youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.
(Psalms 127:3-5 ESV)


And when Esau lifted up his eyes and saw the women and children, he said, “Who are these with you?” Jacob said, “The children whom God has graciously given your servant.”
(Genesis 33:5 ESV)


He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children. Praise the LORD!
(Psalms 113:9 Holy Bible ESV)

Quest
What makes you think people adopt because they need healing or are unable to provide for their child?

There are a zillion reasons why one would choose to put their child up for adoption and equally as many reasons why one perfectly healthy, fully equipped woman may choose to adopt a child.

Personally, I have a much deeper desire to ADOPT a child then to have a child of my own. Now I know people are going to throw daggers at me, there's nothing you can say I haven't heard. I've even been told because we are choosing NOT to have children of our own, that we are intentionally sinning, which is complete rubbish of course. We don't have children, nor do we have any plans to have children in the near future. I LOVE kids, and have great compassion for those who are unloved/neglected etc...but we have our own reasons for making such a choice...just as those birthmothers have their reasons for adopting out their child. None of us should judge.

My point is this:

Be very careful of the claims you make. In regards to topics like this, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but unless you can support your thoughts with SCRIPTURAL evidence, then think before posting!
 
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