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ThereRoseaLamb

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Rosemaryx

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@ThereRoseaLamb ...
I have seen the darkness in my own family as you are seeing it in yours , and I know how much your heart is breaking...One thing I have learned through this pain to do with these family matters , is to love and shine Christ on the ones He gives me...I spent so much time in my hurt that it broke me , but God showed me that I must just lift them up to Him , and not to take them back on unless He sends them back into my life...

There comes a time when we have to let people go , no matter who they are , and love and pray for them from a distance...You can do nothing , but just enjoy this new baby , and leave the rest to themselves...Who knows only God what plans He has for your life , so lay it all down once again at our Lords feet , and stop picking it up again...I am praying for you as you greive...xox...
 

TheLearner

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Asking for prayer in this situation again. My nephew and his wife came and stayed at my parents for a month waiting on his parents to finish an apartment for them. It was so good to hold my great nephew. I don't have children of my own but there is something about holding a newborn baby. Just as they were leaving he was beginning to focus and look in your eyes. When he would cry I would walk with him and sing a little song I made up naming each member of the family and that they loved him. Then one night I sang "Jesus loves Jasper" and the little one looked up at me and I began to cry. My sister is now saying that it's not her grandchild, that her daughter in law trapped her son and the child isn't his. This past weekend my younger nephew visited and when my mother asked him what it felt like to be an uncle he shook his head and said "I'm not related to him". This grieves me so much.

At the same time my sisters husband was married before. He has a daughter who has already had a child but when she heard her half brother was having a child, she went out and got pregnant with a complete stranger. Come to find out, the guy is a pedophile and is now in jail. She has just had her baby, also a boy and my sister has accepted that child, even though she doesn't get along with her, as if it is her grandchild. My younger nephew refused to hold his brothers child, but I saw he was pictured holding his half sisters baby. Both children are innocent of what their parents did. But my nephew repented, asked for my help to get married and is there trying to raise his family. But my sister has acted like her son died. I have never known her to be like this. She has rejected her own grandchild. Needless to say I don't know what to do. I love both my nephews, but my sister is spreading rumors and her youngest son is believing them and repeating them. I had thought that once she held her first grandchild my sister would relent, but she hasn't. She denies that the child is her blood. It truly breaks my heart in two. Pray as I might, I can only wait on the Lord because I don't know what to do or say.
tell him rummors are for the ungodly.
 

notmyown

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I guess another update is due. My nephew and his wife came up during the Christmas season. His younger brother came along. My sister made some excuse for not coming. That was fine, no one wanted drama. My nephew and his wife are staying in the basement of an old store front. They have a mattress on the floor and run heaters. No running water and no bathroom unless they can find their way upstairs at night. She is incredibly pregnant and this is very difficult for her. We have done all we can do trying to help. But to give them a place to stay so far from us, we just can't swing it.

The issue is that my sister has taken such bitterness in her heart against her now daughter in law that she cannot see anything else. She wouldn't take part in their wedding, she refuses to have a baby shower or help in any way. The building they were fixing for them is an old store front that should be demolished really. And they have held that over their heads as if they were doing something major for them. My sister is spreading terrible rumors about her daughter in law. She has convinced my youngest nephew to have a hate for her too. This is not like my sister and nothing will change her mind.

My youngest nephew said something about his brother and my husband corrected him. But it broke his heart. He is 15 and always looked up to my husband. I talked to him and then spoke to my husband and he said he will apologize to him. It's not his fault, he is torn between his brother he loves, and loyalty to my sister. He cried and said " I didn't make this choice, none of this is my fault but I face the consequences night and day. I can't ever get away from it." I'm torn. I love these boys like they were my own. I don't have children but have always tried to be there when they needed to talk. Now we have a baby on the way and we're in this mess. Both the boys love each other and they are hurting. I just keep praying for the right words, I don't want to hurt them. Meanwhile my sister is hard as stone, unable to speak to her, unable to understand her. It's just a heavy burden. I've noticed some health issues coming up I believe are stress related. I have aging parents, a husband and home to care for and the boys come here to escape. I cannot fall ill now. I would really appreciate your prayers during this time as we move forward into spring with a new life starting. I know God has a plan I just can't see.
{{{{ hugs }}}}

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PennEd

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Asking for prayer in this situation again. My nephew and his wife came and stayed at my parents for a month waiting on his parents to finish an apartment for them. It was so good to hold my great nephew. I don't have children of my own but there is something about holding a newborn baby. Just as they were leaving he was beginning to focus and look in your eyes. When he would cry I would walk with him and sing a little song I made up naming each member of the family and that they loved him. Then one night I sang "Jesus loves Jasper" and the little one looked up at me and I began to cry. My sister is now saying that it's not her grandchild, that her daughter in law trapped her son and the child isn't his. This past weekend my younger nephew visited and when my mother asked him what it felt like to be an uncle he shook his head and said "I'm not related to him". This grieves me so much.

At the same time my sisters husband was married before. He has a daughter who has already had a child but when she heard her half brother was having a child, she went out and got pregnant with a complete stranger. Come to find out, the guy is a pedophile and is now in jail. She has just had her baby, also a boy and my sister has accepted that child, even though she doesn't get along with her, as if it is her grandchild. My younger nephew refused to hold his brothers child, but I saw he was pictured holding his half sisters baby. Both children are innocent of what their parents did. But my nephew repented, asked for my help to get married and is there trying to raise his family. But my sister has acted like her son died. I have never known her to be like this. She has rejected her own grandchild. Needless to say I don't know what to do. I love both my nephews, but my sister is spreading rumors and her youngest son is believing them and repeating them. I had thought that once she held her first grandchild my sister would relent, but she hasn't. She denies that the child is her blood. It truly breaks my heart in two. Pray as I might, I can only wait on the Lord because I don't know what to do or say.
I have read your whole thread. And truly sympathize with your situation and the horrible stress your family is under.

I'm a guy, so I like to fix things when sometimes listening is all that's required, so please don't be offended reading my suggestion.


Early in the thread, you alluded to the likelihood that this young lady engaged in sex before she was with your nephew.

Is it remotely possible your sister may have it right and the child is not your nephew's?

If it absolutely is your nephew's, then maybe your sister would be open to the idea to completely heal the family with a paternity test. Maybe she wouldn't even care. I don't know. But if all parties agree to do it, it would at the very least get your younger nephew onboard with his brother, SIL, and baby nephew.

Praying for all.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I have read your whole thread. And truly sympathize with your situation and the horrible stress your family is under.

I'm a guy, so I like to fix things when sometimes listening is all that's required, so please don't be offended reading my suggestion.


Early in the thread, you alluded to the likelihood that this young lady engaged in sex before she was with your nephew.

Is it remotely possible your sister may have it right and the child is not your nephew's?

If it absolutely is your nephew's, then maybe your sister would be open to the idea to completely heal the family with a paternity test. Maybe she wouldn't even care. I don't know. But if all parties agree to do it, it would at the very least get your younger nephew onboard with his brother, SIL, and baby nephew.

Praying for all.
To be honest I have been thinking about that very idea. But I believe my niece in law would be terribly offended and hurt. My sister has already flat out told her that her son was a good boy till she corrupted him. Now I love my nephew like he is my own son. I have gone against his mothers will to help him. But it takes two to have sex, and she didn't force him. If the child is not his, he has decided to still enter into marriage with her. So in the end this is how I feel, that child is my family as if he was adopted into the family if he by chance is not my blood. I'm not going to punish the child for what the parents chose to do. I really don't see healing from a paternity test. My husband and I talked about it last night and he said we would pay for it if it was something they wished to do. I really don't know. My sister has said so many things about my niece in law that I don't know what is true. It's a small town and they are horrible gossips and story tellers.

The issue is when they began to date my sister treated her like she was already married and part of the family. Before we even got a chance to meet her. Then without telling us, they all showed up on our doorstep to visit. My sister had her involved in the music in the church on stage. At some point I asked my sister if this girl was a Christian and she said "as much as kids are today". So I left it at that. I added her to my Facebook after asking my sister. My sister said she came from a hard background. But once she found out about the pregnancy well the girl is the spawn of satan. And this isn't like my sister. I can't reach her. She's spreading these rumors and upsetting my parents. My mother has come through cancer, my father is having issues that we believe may be dementia. Both of them adore that child. And they would even if he wasn't their blood. But my sister keeps coming to my mother with more rumors about the girl. And as I said she has her other son carrying the rumors and it's hurting our relationship with him. IDK and I appreciate any advice brother. Especially from you. If she doesn't stop I'm going to have to shut her down, she's hurting her entire family. I wish I could see a way to healing but I can't right now.
 

Snackersmom

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*Huugggsss*

I'm so sorry for this Miss Rose, I was reading the thread last night through tears. I'm not sure why it got me so hard.

Your sister said that her son was a "good boy" before he met this girl, but what she really means is that he was a compliant boy. As soon as he found something worth defying her for, she dropped him like a hot potato. His decision was wrong of course (even if the baby isn't "his", they must have behaved in a way that he would believe it could be). But as you said, none of that is the child's fault and your nephew has decided to raise him as his own. It sounds like he's making the best of the situation, and currently showing a lot more maturity than your sister is.

The reality is that, even if she knew it was 100% true what she's saying about the baby being someone else's, yadda yadda.....she should not be spreading it all over town and she definitely should not be involving her young son in it. That shows a staggering lack of spiritual maturity. It sounds like it's all about appearances for her, if she can convince everyone that the baby isn't his then she thinks that will make herself look better. And that seems to be mostly what she cares about right now..... LOOKING good, not actually BEING good. There is a huge difference, and it's stressful situations like this that reveal a person's true character.

Your nephews are being abused, in my humble opinion. I question if the oldest even wanted to join the military, that may have been purely his parents idea. And I think you are right that your sister was using him for emotional support in her difficult marriage. The kids are clearly being controlled and told what to think and how to feel, and that is a very heavy burden for a kid to bear. Thank God that you and your husband are there to offer support, I do believe that He has and will continue to use y'all in this!

Anyway......I'm actually going through a similar situation with a friend of mine, she is the worried Mom of a good son who made some bad choices. But she has been mostly biting her tongue and opted to show love and prayers. It has been hard on her, but God is working in the new little family and we are already seeing fruit. I believe God can and will do the same for your nephew if he keeps seeking Him <3

And in the meantime.....prayer works, God's got this, and Bless you and your husband for being a stable, Godly influence in your nephew's lives, they seriously need that right now! I will pray-
 

PennEd

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But I believe my niece in law would be terribly offended and hurt. My sister has already flat out told her that her son was a good boy till she corrupted him. Now I love my nephew like he is my own son. I have gone against his mothers will to help him. But it takes two to have sex, and she didn't force him. If the child is not his, he has decided to still enter into marriage with her. So in the end this is how I feel, that child is my family as if he was adopted into the family if he by chance is not my blood. I'm not going to punish the child for what the parents chose to do. I really don't see healing from a paternity test. My husband and I talked about it last night and he said we would pay for it if it was something they wished to do. I really don't know. My sister has said so many things about my niece in law that I don't know what is true. It's a small town and they are horrible gossips and story tellers.
I absolutely agree it would be terrible if a test revealed your nephew wasn't the father on multiple levels.

But if somehow you could tactfully speak to the young lady and say something along the lines of " I don't have any doubts that my nephew is the father. I'm only suggesting to take any weapons away from my sister to drive further wedges between ALL the family members. If you consent to a test, it would at the least mend things between the 2 brothers.".

To be perfectly honest, for there to be any chance of reconciliation between the family, it seems to me this test would have to be done eventually. Your sister, having put that prospect of some other father out there, isn't ever going to accept the child as her grandson without it. Probably better sooner than later.

Maybe she would relish the idea of getting that rumor squashed forever.