How should I feel about "Satanic" Music?

[Haelford]

Soooo. I love metal. Most of it. (Not really Van Halen, Poison etc.) When I say all I mean from Skillet to Deicide. This puts me in an odd position though. I believe in God and Jesus as my savior. I'm truly convinced. But I want to keep listening to my music. Its not like music that stands critical towards my beliefs changes them. So what should I do?
Stay heavy. \,,/

 

[EdisonTrent]

I like different stuff also someone might say it's negative type of music but I just simply read between the lines and turn a negative into a positive personally. I look at the artist heart most write out of fear or love all other feelings come from these two feelings . Positive or negative basically.. there are songs that are like a horror movie just in sound version simply expression of ones self feelings. But for me it's better to be more positive inward and outward thats just me but Im not saying I don't play some deathstars or Motörhead from time to time i do if I like a beat,, but everyone has there own style it's our own personal choice what music we like and how we see it.

[video=youtube;xz2-S1YYVj8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz2-S1YYVj8[/video]

 

[EdisonTrent]

**inappropriate youtube link removed**

 

[Ugly]

Well, if it's satanic, avoid and ignore it. But you may want to check out the Christian metal thread if you haven't already.

 

[Bushido8000]

Soooo. I love metal. Most of it. (Not really Van Halen, Poison etc.) When I say all I mean from Skillet to Deicide. This puts me in an odd position though. I believe in God and Jesus as my savior. I'm truly convinced. But I want to keep listening to my music. Its not like music that stands critical towards my beliefs changes them. So what should I do?
Stay heavy. \,,/

What are you really considering satanic music? Just heavy music in general? Because it's not. I love metal music but I don't listen to satanic music. Lyrics distinguish satanic music from non-satanic music in ANY genre, whether it be country, rock, rap, jazz, bluegrass, whatever.

I listen to tons of metal bands that never once mention religion or spiritual belief, much less support Satan.

What kinda bands/songs are you referring to? Slayer?

 

[didymos]

Satanic music, like.... Mozart?

[video=youtube;okFlNAl7HQQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFlNAl7HQQ[/video]

 

[Haelford]

I consider satanic music Dark Funeral Or Mayhem. I know that there are Toms Or heavy Bands "even" black metal bands like Immortal or Krimh that aren't satanic. I just personally find that if the lyrical theme doesn't have a negative effect on my beliefs it should be fine for me to listen to Ghost, Behemoth or Marduk. All I'd like to know is what other Christians think of it. Also Bushido. Ich nehme an, dass wenn du dich nach ihm nennst dass du Deutschsprachig bist. Props to you.

 

[Haelford]

Slayer isnt satanic. Most "satany" bands aren't satanic to be exact. Most just go for shock value like venom or pentagram. I really mean like Gorgoroth.

 

[Haelford]

Please pm me the link whatever it was . I needs to know. Same thing happend to me when i linked Urgehal's goatcraft torment on the christian metal thread. I couldn't resist trolling a little. C:

 

[EdisonTrent]

Slayer isnt satanic. Most "satany" bands aren't satanic to be exact. Most just go for shock value like venom or pentagram. I really mean like Gorgoroth.

yea like a horror flick, to fear fear is giving into fear

 

[Bushido8000]

I consider satanic music Dark Funeral Or Mayhem. I know that there are Toms Or heavy Bands "even" black metal bands like Immortal or Krimh that aren't satanic. I just personally find that if the lyrical theme doesn't have a negative effect on my beliefs it should be fine for me to listen to Ghost, Behemoth or Marduk. All I'd like to know is what other Christians think of it. Also Bushido. Ich nehme an, dass wenn du dich nach ihm nennst dass du Deutschsprachig bist. Props to you.

Lol well my name actually comes from the Japanese code of the warrior, but thanks .

I have kinda dealt with a similar issue in my life and it's not really Satanic music but negative music in general. I have learned over time the real power of words, not just in music, but any words that are spoken verbally. I found that with myself, the more I listened to negative music, the more negative thoughts I would have throughout the day. If I listened to really hateful, prideful music, I would generally have a lot more hateful, prideful thoughts throughout the day (that would sometimes spill into my actions and conversations). Same thing with sad songs. I LOVE sad/depressing songs haha. But I found that I would be more sad/angry when I dealt with common situations. I believe that spirits act on what you listen to, or by listening to a certain kind of song, it might give certain spirits more of a foothold for influence.

even if bands like Behemoth are releasing their songs just to be "funny" or "shocking", what they are doing in their songs (invoking demons/Satan, worshiping, conjuring,) is still very real, whether they realize it themselves or not. I would not be the least bit surprised to find the band members' lives riddled with negative attitudes, events, and circumstances because of their music, whether or not they act like it in interviews.

By singing or even listening to lyrics like that, one might open up a window for demonic activity in their lives. And I'm not really talking about the stuff that goes on in demonic movies, I find that demons (mostly) like to operate on the down low without being detected for as long as they can.

Now I'm not here saying you can or can't do anything. That's purely up to you and what you think about the subject. I'm just giving you as much information as I can based on my experience as both a music lover and a musician.

 

[Bushido8000]

Lol well my name actually comes from the Japanese code of the warrior, but thanks .

I have kinda dealt with a similar issue in my life and it's not really Satanic music but negative music in general. I have learned over time the real power of words, not just in music, but any words that are spoken verbally. I found that with myself, the more I listened to negative music, the more negative thoughts I would have throughout the day. If I listened to really hateful, prideful music, I would generally have a lot more hateful, prideful thoughts throughout the day (that would sometimes spill into my actions and conversations). Same thing with sad songs. I LOVE sad/depressing songs haha. But I found that I would be more sad/angry when I dealt with common situations. I believe that spirits act on what you listen to, or by listening to a certain kind of song, it might give certain spirits more of a foothold for influence.

even if bands like Behemoth are releasing their songs just to be "funny" or "shocking", what they are doing in their songs (invoking demons/Satan, worshiping, conjuring,) is still very real, whether they realize it themselves or not. I would not be the least bit surprised to find the band members' lives riddled with negative attitudes, events, and circumstances because of their music, whether or not they act like it in interviews.

By singing or even listening to lyrics like that, one might open up a window for demonic activity in their lives. And I'm not really talking about the stuff that goes on in demonic movies, I find that demons (mostly) like to operate on the down low without being detected for as long as they can.

Now I'm not here saying you can or can't do anything. That's purely up to you and what you think about the subject. I'm just giving you as much information as I can based on my experience as both a music lover and a musician.

Sorry, I forgot to include these scriptures.

Proverbs 18:21 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits.”


Ephesians 4:29 “Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.”

 

[posthuman]

personally it's not just "if the lyrical theme doesn't have a negative effect" -- but if i can't truthfully & honestly sing along. if my heart doesn't agree. & God has changed my heart - it has nothing to do with worldly themes anymore, i see them all as dead.
so maybe it is "negative effect" - but i've become more picky about what is a negative effect or not. or at the best, it's a waste of my time, and at the worst, even if i don't notice - a song can get into your subconscious, like an advertising jingle from a commercial, and then when you're not listening to it, the lyrics are playing in your mind, and that's an influence. i want that influence to be for God.

so i stopped listening to secular bands a long time ago. not a type of music "secular" - but a type of outlook in the lyrics.

anyway here's a mini-documentary on Christian black metal.

[video=youtube;qTT79KjvRnQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTT79KjvRnQ[/video]

 

[Difol]

Hm... I would say just pay no attention to any lyrics that could mess with your faith, I guess. I listen to satanic metal bands as well as a few Christian ones. I mostly listen to secular music these days. I can't really take some Christian bands serious. But it may be easier for me to not pay attention than it is for you due to me being the type of person who pays attention to the tone of the song rather than the lyrics. I've noticed alot of people aren't like that. heh.

 

[posthuman]

there's actually a lot of Christians that play music similar to Gorgoroth & Behemoth et al. most of them are extremely unpopular - because of their sound, among Christians, and because of what they sing about and who they stand for, among most black metal fans.
search youtube for "unblack metal" and you will find many. & look up the lyrics for what they are playing if you can't understand them. there's more "raw" than well-produced & talented - but there are some very talented and very well produced Christian black metal bands too. you should check it out, or PM me or something, i know many. and look through the enormous metal thread here; there are LOTS posted.

one of 10,000 examples:

[video=youtube;l-Co7YFtKis]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Co7YFtKis[/video]

 

[Ugly]

Take not Haelford lists his spiritual status as 'not sure'. Also he has only discussed one thing so far. 'Satanic' bands. Even posting one in what he admits was trolling. Guessing that's not the only trolling he's up to.

 

[posthuman]

my point is, if you respond to this sort of music, you don't consider the music itself to be wicked, and you're going to listen to it, and you are Christ's --
why listen to worldly bands singing about worshiping the beast and about worshiping their lusts, when there are alternatives that have a more godly approach?
even if you aren't listening to the lyrics, or if they're indiscernible, or in a language you don't understand, wouldn't it be wiser to listen to something that has a Spirit which confesses Christ than one that blasphemes?

[video=youtube;IA4-0oDcf1A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4-0oDcf1A[/video]

↑ like this, it is in portuguese & latin, and i haven't seen a lyric page, but the band is openly Christian. i feel much better about having this in my ears than another band who may sound similar, who i also cant' understand, if i know that what they stand for and sing about is against what i believe.

i just think -- it won't take God's grace away from you brother, but it can harm you. so choose an option that can bless you instead.

 

[Bushido8000]

Take not Haelford lists his spiritual status as 'not sure'. Also he has only discussed one thing so far. 'Satanic' bands. Even posting one in what he admits was trolling. Guessing that's not the only trolling he's up to.

Lol man if this is a trolling thread....

On a better note. Trolling thread or not, this is a fantastic topic that I think a lot of Christians need to hear about. I have friends that will just listen to whatever (satanic, blasphemous stuff) just because there is a neat little bass lick in the song and friends from the opposite side who think that all secular music is evil and just listen to worship songs all the time. I myself listen to Christian music AND secular music, but not secular music containing a blasphemous or satanic message. I think people who say that even secular music containing no message is evil aren't musicians, truthfully it's just hard to find Christian bands with unique creativity (instrumentally) for whatever reason.

I really think this thread has come just in time with the emergence of Doom Metal and Stoner/Desert rock (which I love haha). There are some really great fuzzy sounding bands in these genres with a ton of creativity (Dead Meadow), but also really satanic ones. I believe that people should filter what they are listening to when they start getting into these kinds of genres. Don't even get me started on Drill Rap (haha)

 

[Siberian_Khatru]

Slayer isnt satanic. Most "satany" bands aren't satanic to be exact. Most just go for shock value like venom or pentagram. I really mean like Gorgoroth.

I understand what you're driving at, technically, but... Perhaps that's how the Enemy wants people to see them. When a group sings "God hates us all," I wouldn't rush to justify them as just trying to have "shock value."

 

[breno785au]

I understand what you're driving at, technically, but... Perhaps that's how the Enemy wants people to see them. When a group sings "God hates us all," I wouldn't rush to justify them as just trying to have "shock value."

Yeah, "I keep the bible in a pool of blood so that none of its lies can affect me." Isn't something my heart agrees with and is certainly from a wicked heart.
To the OP, I think its great you're asking this, I've loved metal most of my life myself. My personal convictions are that I won't listen to anything that is openly satanic and or negative in nature like for example, "I hate everyone." Is a lyric from Chimera.
Now, you'll get all sorts of opinions on this, you even have one of your own but I say, I do not recommend it BUT it really is between you and God at the end of the day. Perhaps your asking for a reason more than curiosity? Is God giving you a nudge about it perhaps?
As I said, I will not tell you to not listen to satanic metal, its between God and you, I can only go by my own convictions.
A side note, there's stuff I used to listen to years ago that is considered christian that I've weeded out because I like lyrics that are straight forward and point to God or faith in some way. But that's just me and where I'm at.