The definition of Christian Music

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Flannery

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It used to have to have an uplifting message and somehow follow the pentameter of the Psalms to be considered Christian Music, have you ever thought about that? Some modal scales are more appropriate to the themes than others, their names reflect what they're meant to evoke. That was always the big conflict, when musical debates really meant something, if you could sing about certain things in certain styles or not.
 

Lynx

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It used to have to have an uplifting message and somehow follow the pentameter of the Psalms to be considered Christian Music, have you ever thought about that? Some modal scales are more appropriate to the themes than others, their names reflect what they're meant to evoke. That was always the big conflict, when musical debates really meant something, if you could sing about certain things in certain styles or not.
Have you been on this forum before under another nick? I swear you seem familiar from somewhere.
 

Lynx

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About modern music, I have a little bit of everything. It's all christian, but it's everything from 1950s Rock to bluegrass banjo to black choir to Jamaican to rap to heavy metal to just about everything else.

I have come to realize that in every style about 30% is inspired and 70% is just turned out to make a buck. It is the same for the style you like most and the style you hate. They all come in at about 30-70 split.

So yeah, it's easy to find an example of Christian music that is soulless and point to it as an example of how modern Christian music sucks. But there is still good Christian music out there, if you take the time to look for it.
 

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Actually, I can listen to most music, as long as it's original. Reused melodies with endless call and response variations get on my nerves, though. Crossover styles in which a song about something secular also meat ions religion is an upper level scholastic debate (how many angles can dance on the head of a pin again?) and they also seem to play out faster than an inspired number in only one or the other mode, but I still hear them out.
 

Lynx

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It used to have to have an uplifting message and somehow follow the pentameter of the Psalms to be considered Christian Music, have you ever thought about that? Some modal scales are more appropriate to the themes than others, their names reflect what they're meant to evoke. That was always the big conflict, when musical debates really meant something, if you could sing about certain things in certain styles or not.
It's also important to remember that even our oldest hymns were once "that newfangled junk that kids are listening to these days."

I can guarantee you that when these hymns were first made there were some elders who complained about them, because these songs were nothing like the Gregorian chants they grew up with.

Don't even get me started on how our old hymns would sound to king-psalmist David...
 

Flannery

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It's also important to remember that even our oldest hymns were once "that newfangled junk that kids are listening to these days."

I can guarantee you that when these hymns were first made there were some elders who complained about them, because these songs were nothing like the Gregorian chants they grew up with.

Don't even get me started on how our old hymns would sound to king-psalmist David...
I suppose. Actually, Plainchant was the same classical Latin composition style that Romans had composed in before Constantine, it was similar to a Greek Chorus. Plainchant was acapella, and an American Catholic alter service used it as recently as the mid 1960s. Plainsong could also have harmony, based on vocal register, and from there be harmonized further and arranged for as many interments were available to play. It wasn't until the 1800s and the Napoleonic division of conquered European territory into ethnic cantons that many new interments designed to give local sounding texture to the sounds of the area that giant orchestral productions really became famous.
 

Lynx

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I suppose. Actually, Plainchant was the same classical Latin composition style that Romans had composed in before Constantine, it was similar to a Greek Chorus. Plainchant was acapella, and an American Catholic alter service used it as recently as the mid 1960s. Plainsong could also have harmony, based on vocal register, and from there be harmonized further and arranged for as many interments were available to play. It wasn't until the 1800s and the Napoleonic division of conquered European territory into ethnic cantons that many new interments designed to give local sounding texture to the sounds of the area that giant orchestral productions really became famous.
Like I said, you REALLY sound familiar. What was your nickname when you were here before?
 

Flannery

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Like I said, you REALLY sound familiar. What was your nickname when you were here before?
If I've ever been here before, it was so long ago that I lost the account information. Christian Bulletin Borads are the most numerous kind of post sites.