What is wrong with rock music & why is it considered evil?

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posthuman

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did you know that in that same style of music there's now a generation of God-fearing men and women singing about the truth of the gospel and rapping about righteous lifestyles and reconciliation between God and men through Christ?
man, this is really something i praise God for, especially because of how different what Christian rappers have to say is from what the world has to say in their songs, like you point out pwrnJC -- morality in popular music has taken a big nose dive in just a few short decades.
there is a lot to be sorrowful for and indignant over - but i just want to tell you, if you don't know, that God is also working in musician's hearts - His name is still lifted up on the earth! there is that to have joy for too :)
 

FIRE_of_ELIJAH

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I used to listen to rock music of any kind before from deep purple,black sabbath, nazareth, montley crue, kiss, led zeppelin,metallica, queen, skidrow, bon jovi, pantera, slayer,guns & roses, acdc, outfield, scorpion and etc...but things change when I got born again, i stop listening all of these stuffs, I preferred christian rock and metal instead namely; petra, nouveaux, stryper, audio adrenaline, angelica and etc....But as the days gone by in my daily walk with God, i became aware that in listening christian rock was like listening to secular rock, kind of like same old things, it's almost encourage me to listen back again to secular rock. I realized that rock(both christian rock and secular one) are not really for us as believers. So I completely stopped listening both. I prefer praise and worship without screaming and rock metal involved.

As believers , we are not here to be conformed of the pattern of this world. Imagine, how's the church could look like if using METAL tune during worship hour. It's really chaos !!! It's like being in the strip bar or in the rock concert where bunch of hippies, drug addicts , stubborn unbelievers and stuffs are present. Rock metal encourage the flesh, not the spirit, God said worship Him in spirit.

Christian rock are intended FOR unbelievers during crusade and for preaching the gospel. It can draw unbelievers to listen to the crusade. That's the reason Why God allows it in christian community. Using rock and playing it in the church in praise and worship and in your home aren't the same issues, That's very ridiculous !! When you grow older spiritually, you will realize that you don't need all these things.
 
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I so tire of the whole attitude that because one person feels a certain way that this somehow represents how everyone else should be. The conviction God lays on YOUR heart is for YOU and does not mean your conviction speaks for the entirety of the church. Stop thinking what God is speaking to you makes you a mouthpiece for Him. Take what God speaks to you and focus on yourself with it rather than making it something God spoke to everyone because that is usually not the case. The bible makes it clear there are grey areas and what is wrong to one person may not be wrong to another. And neither can speak for anyone other than themselves. Your conviction does not mean it is meant for everyone.
 

FIRE_of_ELIJAH

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LoL sorry, I hit someone's nerve. LoL oh God. No time for the living dead christian(LUkEWARM). someone must check their spiritual life issue.:)
 
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it's not at all a matter of a persons opinion, which means nothing, nor their conviction, which means nothing, but what God says, which is what matters.


God tells His sons the same thing all over the earth.

They listen to Him.

no one else does. (usually. i guess even the unbelievers might listen once in a while, God willing and allowing them to....)
 
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I don't think it's bad o.o people tends to judge to quickly and besides it's the lyrics and what they are singing about should be important, and the ones that don't like skillet or tfk or lecrae or anything else it's ok to not like but shouldn't judge them...
 

Nautilus

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LoL sorry, I hit someone's nerve. LoL oh God. No time for the living dead christian(LUkEWARM). someone must check their spiritual life issue.:)
yup you caught us. better lay your hands on us till we get slain in the spirit and you can claim the blood of christ over us while we pretend to have seizures and babble incoherently to fit in to your group. I'll be waiting here listening to some rock.
 
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Tintin

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Fire of Elijah, your attitude stinks more than someone else's gym socks (I don't visit the gym). Being lukewarm has nothing to do with Christians listening to rock music and everything to do where your heart is at with God.
 
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God is much bigger than we in general allow him to be. He works in every circle, craft, style, genre and region to speak truth to the lost and bring light to the darkness. If a genre of music is full of wickedness it's because God's people did not take the lead artistically but rather stayed in the safe zone and scoffed at the darkness while demons moved their queens out for the "check". (We all know God gets the "checkmate"!) Rather, I think it's our place to lead those lost in darkness to the light by delivering biblical truth and the gospel to them. Many people are so caught up in a musical world that that's all they live and breath, and the only influence which bears any power with them comes through their music. I absolutely believe that God has placed His artists into those circles of influence in order to creatively preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to those souls He loves and sent His Son to die for, whom are lost in these very dark worlds. And I believe it would be disobedience for these artists with such a calling to not go out into all the world and make disciples... If believers don't step up to the microphone or camera, and do it well in such a manner to catch the attention of the masses, then the wicked will have their full attention without a counterpoint...and wickedness will increase. Hollywood owns the airwaves, but it shouldn't. God's people should be in film school and journalism more so than seminary. Not many are called to be pastors, but all are called to be salt and light.
God moves powerfully through all sorts of music, art, fiction, sport, poetry, etc. He's amazing! And more beautiful and eclectic than we can imagine.
 
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Moose_Almighty

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There's nothing wrong with rock, heavy metal, etc... It's all an expression of art and entertainment that God has blessed with those people who create it. As long as it doesn't consume you and take your focus off God, there's nothing wrong with enjoying it. Really, the only evil that comes from it are the Christians that judge the people who listen to it.
 
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God is much bigger than we in general allow him to be. He works in every circle, craft, style, genre and region to speak truth to the lost and bring light to the darkness. If a genre of music is full of wickedness it's because God's people did not take the lead artistically but rather stayed in the safe zone and scoffed at the darkness while demons moved their queens out for the "check". (We all know God gets the "checkmate"!) Rather, I think it's our place to lead those lost in darkness to the light by delivering biblical truth and the gospel to them. Many people are so caught up in a musical world that that's all they live and breath, and the only influence which bears any power with them comes through their music. I absolutely believe that God has placed His artists into those circles of influence in order to creatively preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to those souls He loves and sent His Son to die for, whom are lost in these very dark worlds. And I believe it would be disobedience for these artists with such a calling to not go out into all the world and make disciples... If believers don't step up to the microphone or camera, and do it well in such a manner to catch the attention of the masses, then the wicked will have their full attention without a counterpoint...and wickedness will increase. Hollywood owns the airwaves, but it shouldn't. God's people should be in film school and journalism more so than seminary. Not many are called to be pastors, but all are called to be salt and light.
God moves powerfully through all sorts of music, art, fiction, sport, poetry, etc. He's amazing! And more beautiful and eclectic than we can imagine.
I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So true! We as Christians should be on the forefront of creativity. Excuse the French, but Christian rock is a bastard; abandoned by the world because it sounds too much like the church, and abandoned by the church because it sounds too much like the world. If more Christians -who are called to- would step up and do something with the gifts and talents that God has given them, it would leave the world speechless. The world would not be able to deny the glory of God!

But, and this is my opinion, it doesn't matter what the band/artist calls themselves, or even the lyrics they write. What is the most important factor is the spirit behind their songs and how they are personally pursuing God. Creed had some Christian lyrics and meanings behind their songs, but only Scott Stapp was "Christian" in the band, and even he has probably fallen off spiritually. As Christians, we need to do research. The Bible tells us to test everything to see if it's from God. Simply accepting it as good because it plays on K-Love or they call themselves "Christian" doesn't mean anything. And vice versa. Condemning Christian rock music for it's music or screaming (if you are into the heavy stuff) without giving it a listen is just as bad. God uses every avenue to rescue the lost. He used Rahab the Prostitute to hide Israel's spies when they were attacking Jericho. He made a donkey speak! If he used a prostitute and a donkey to bring about His will, then I don't see how he couldn't use some musical passion and creative melodies to bring light to this dark world!
 
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For me it depends on the content. Don't get me wrong...Dirty Deeds is a great song I just choose not to let that kind of influence into my brain anymore. Rush is a secular band that really enjoy the content of. I think people just wanna be critical. I used to work with a guy who thought Garth Brooks was too edgy....lol.
 
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I'm cool with people not enjoying certain music genres. I'm cool with people's personal convictions by way of the Holy Spirit. I'm not cool though, with Christians believing Gnostic nonsense (in regards to music etc.) and passing it off as Christian discernment. That's lying. Gnosticism is a truly evil belief system and shouldn't be given a foot in the Church door. Not even a toe.
 
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Rock and Roll!
I'm so evil!
 

breno785au

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I used to listen to rock music of any kind before from deep purple,black sabbath, nazareth, montley crue, kiss, led zeppelin,metallica, queen, skidrow, bon jovi, pantera, slayer,guns & roses, acdc, outfield, scorpion and etc...but things change when I got born again, i stop listening all of these stuffs, I preferred christian rock and metal instead namely; petra, nouveaux, stryper, audio adrenaline, angelica and etc....But as the days gone by in my daily walk with God, i became aware that in listening christian rock was like listening to secular rock, kind of like same old things, it's almost encourage me to listen back again to secular rock. I realized that rock(both christian rock and secular one) are not really for us as believers. So I completely stopped listening both. I prefer praise and worship without screaming and rock metal involved.

As believers , we are not here to be conformed of the pattern of this world. Imagine, how's the church could look like if using METAL tune during worship hour. It's really chaos !!! It's like being in the strip bar or in the rock concert where bunch of hippies, drug addicts , stubborn unbelievers and stuffs are present. Rock metal encourage the flesh, not the spirit, God said worship Him in spirit.

Christian rock are intended FOR unbelievers during crusade and for preaching the gospel. It can draw unbelievers to listen to the crusade. That's the reason Why God allows it in christian community. Using rock and playing it in the church in praise and worship and in your home aren't the same issues, That's very ridiculous !! When you grow older spiritually, you will realize that you don't need all these things.
Probably not here anymore but anyway, your post started off acceptable but then human reasoning kicked in and it all fell a part.
 
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Because distorted tonal sound waves are evil and stuff, duh. Isn't it obvious?

Cause in Jesus' day it was all about that ol timey gospel right? Oh wait, no. Even ol timey gospel is incredibly new and heretical compared to the long forgotten Hebrew Psalms of that time.

Music is music. The only thing that is bad or good about music are the lyrics. Don't let the KJV onlys tell you otherwise.
 

maxwel

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Because distorted tonal sound waves are evil and stuff, duh. Isn't it obvious?

Cause in Jesus' day it was all about that ol timey gospel right? Oh wait, no. Even ol timey gospel is incredibly new and heretical compared to the long forgotten Hebrew Psalms of that time.

Music is music. The only thing that is bad or good about music are the lyrics.
I think we all know perfectly well that Jesus listened to southern gospel.

I don't know where you come up with this stuff.
 

mar09

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I'm just starting to read the thread, but let me post..i have to go.

“Music is the most powerful stimulus known among the perceptive senses. The medical, psychiatric and other evidence for the non-neutrality of music is so overwhelming that it frankly amazes me that anyone should seriously say otherwise.” Dr. Max Schoen, The Psychology of Music, 1940.

“Music is a curiously subtle art with innumerable, varying emotional connotations. It is made up of many ingredients and, according to the proportions of these components, it can be soothing or invigorating, ennobling or vulgarizing, philosophical or orgiastic. It has powers of evil as well as good.” Dr. Howard Hanson, American composer, conductor, and teacher, Director of the Eastman School of Music at the University of Rochester, 1942.

“The fact that music can both excite and incite has been known from time immemorial. … Now in our popular music, at least, we seem to be reverting to savagery . . . and youngsters who listen constantly to this sort of sound are thrust into turmoil. They are no longer relaxed, normal kids.” Dr. Dimitri Tiomkin, composer and conductor, 1965.
 
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