Why is Christian anything terrible?

[TosinAsLeader]

the ratio of quality christian movies and music to poor is pretty significant. I can think of two out of dozens of christian movies I've seen that were actually good. The rest were cheesy, way over acted, and terribly produced. Music wise to me, it's not so much that it's bad, so much as just repetitive. There's no originality to a lot of it, and most of it sounds the same.

I enjoyed some of the movies mostly because there was nothing better to do. Still cheesy and honestly, if there was such a thing called "Christian Disney XD" it would be on that channel.

With music, you and I both know well how many annoying metalcore bands they are with sucky vocalist. Also, Klove, don't get me started there. By all means am I not amazed by: Extol, August Burns Red, and Mortal Treason etc.

 

[TosinAsLeader]

Okay I see I think. When's the last time a Christian movie grossed over 100 million?? I say this because the budget for a Christian movie is ALOT smaller than for a Hollywood blockbuster. So yeah you will lose some quality and not be able to pay big name actors to do it. However, they are remaking Left Behind with Nick Cage and Ashley Tisdale lol. As far as music goes I like a lot of it but will agree with zaoman32 that it is quite repetitive. I know from previous post u guys are more metal I seem to have mellowed to rock and maybe some hard rock. I'm on a Third Day kick today.

God Bless

Oh yes metal, but rock is good too. If not modernized if you know what I mean?

LOL! I hope they don't screw up a cheesy movie even more. I love the book series!

 

[acesneverwin]

Well I have better luck with music than movies. I've given up completely on Christian films as I've never seen a good one unless you're counting Passion or The Prince of Egypt. I've seen movies with good messages that could be seen as Christian but are not labeled as such (The Book Eli is a good one). But yeah Vhristian films are generally terrible that I won't even bother with tthem anymore. It's just sad to sit through.

Christian music has faired far better though. In general the stuff on Christian radio is junk and usually these songs are played at church too... But if you dig, and know what style you like, you can find some good stuff. It is still slim pickings but ya have a better chance of finding good Christian music than movies.

That said, I still have yet to find music I like in Christian circles that reaches the same level or surpasses their secular counter parts. I like Power metal and symphonic metal and Christian bands of that is either ok to meh or sucks too. The only good band that comes close to my tastes is Theocracy but I don't think I would bother with them if they weren't christian as there is so much better metal out there. But yeah I have yet to find Christian music that is as good as Nightwish, Kamelot, Sabaton, Blind GUardian, Sirenia, Wintersun etc...

 

[OceanGrl]

I'm looking forward to the new left behind series with Nicolas Cage LOL!

As a fan of the book, I'm not looking forward to the movie especially with the changes that are being made. Blah. I foresee it being slightly better than the Kirk Cameron version, but still pretty bad.

 

[Elesian]

Ok come on, we all need to be honest here. Christian: music, movies and various other attempts that failed. Why can't we not make cheesy Christian movies? I mean really why? Why does 'acceptable,' 'Christian,' music have to be contemporary? With the exception of a few things, everything is low quality and poorly constructed. What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are that you're full of beans. lol. My father is a professional musician. My brother and myself both sang professionally, opera, classically, as well as in rock bands that earned our way through college, so I consider myself to be as good a judge of music as anyone else, and I believe there's tons of excellent Christian music out there as well as good Christian movies. I also majored in Drama so I feel I can judge that area as well as anyone else too. There is well written music as well as movie scripts in all fields of those businesses. So just because you think all modern Christian movies ''cheesy'' doesn't make them ''cheesy", nor all Christian music "failures". That's just your little opinion. Yes I know, there are others like you, I'm sure. But how does that matter to me? As I've said. It doesn't. What I don't get is, why are you listening to such music and movies if you don't like them? For the same purpose that you come in here simply to criticize that which you personally don't like? I would hardly expect a non Christian to like Christian music or movies anyway. So why are you doing that? You a masochist or something? Different people like different kinds of music and movies; that's called personal taste. It's ignorant and immature to think you alone can judge of what's good and bad music. I'm personally not crazy about Country music and zombie movies, but I don't go find sites that like them simply to get a rise out of people that do like them. How bout you go listen to and watch what you like, rather than come on here just to tell Christians what you don't like? Your personal taste in music means jack squat to me. And to say Christian music and movies are failures is just plain silly and ignorant. Christian music is doing very well, for that matter. Many people love it, plus it just keeps on coming. Failure? What failure? Hey, those are my thoughts.

 

[zaoman32]

My thoughts are that you're full of beans. lol. My father is a professional musician. My brother and myself both sang professionally, opera, classically, as well as in rock bands that earned our way through college, so I consider myself to be as good a judge of music as anyone else, and I believe there's tons of excellent Christian music out there as well as good Christian movies. I also majored in Drama so I feel I can judge that area as well as anyone else too. There is well written music as well as movie scripts in all fields of those businesses. So just because you think all modern Christian movies ''cheesy'' doesn't make them ''cheesy", nor all Christian music "failures". That's just your little opinion. Yes I know, there are others like you, I'm sure. But how does that matter to me? As I've said. It doesn't. What I don't get is, why are you listening to such music and movies if you don't like them? For the same purpose that you come in here simply to criticize that which you personally don't like? I would hardly expect a non Christian to like Christian music or movies anyway. So why are you doing that? You a masochist or something? Different people like different kinds of music and movies; that's called personal taste. It's ignorant and immature to think you alone can judge of what's good and bad music. I'm personally not crazy about Country music and zombie movies, but I don't go find sites that like them simply to get a rise out of people that do like them. How bout you go listen to and watch what you like, rather than come on here just to tell Christians what you don't like? Your personal taste in music means jack squat to me. And to say Christian music and movies are failures is just plain silly and ignorant. Christian music is doing very well, for that matter. Many people love it, plus it just keeps on coming. Failure? What failure? Hey, those are my thoughts.

First, the kid is 17, I think you're being a little harsh. Second, he never made any slam against people who enjoyed them, he was simply asking a question, "why do they seem poorly constructed?" And the fact is...they are. Even if the musicianship is good in music, and the acting is well done in movies, the fact is christian producers have an extremely bad habit of only doing what sells, and overdoing it to the point where it lacks any real inspiration or emotion. The movies are usually overly dramatic, the music is constantly repetitive and unoriginal. It has nothing to do with talent.

If you're going to accuse someone of attacking and trolling on certain things, make sure you yourself aren't doing the same thing. Don't be rude, be considerate, and if all your going to do is trash on the poster, keep your opinions to yourself, and do everyone else a favor, and walk away.

 

[Pen014]

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[TosinAsLeader]

I would hardly expect a non Christian to like Christian music or movies anyway. So why are you doing that? You a masochist or something?

I go by the term "Spiritual Theist." I don't go by 'Christian," simply because of its hypocritical nature it has revealed. However, I have thought going back to being called a 'Christian," because of people like you who don't know what a Theist is.

I will not answer to the rest of your questions because it is pointless.

Thank you Zaoman for saving me an argument!

 

[TosinAsLeader]

As a fan of the book, I'm not looking forward to the movie especially with the changes that are being made. Blah. I foresee it being slightly better than the Kirk Cameron version, but still pretty bad.

As much as I believe that will happen to, I hope we are both wrong and a Christian movie would be successful, like the Passion as acesneverwin said.

 

[wisebeardman]

Honestly, it's sad the state that Christian music is in. There is no creativity anymore. I miss the good stuff, when bands like Sanctus Real and Kutless were making music that was different... before they went all contemporary. There are still some great Christian bands (Switchfoot, TFK, Anberlin, Third Day, Relient K, etc.), but the new stuff coming from new artist is beyond repetitive and, dare I say... lame.

really isnt any creativity in music period anymore. don't matter if we are talking Christian music, or mainstream rock.

what really annoys me is is how 1/3'rd of my FM Broadcast dial is "religious" most of it klove or air-one. but thats a whole other topic

 

[TosinAsLeader]

Why is there no push for Christian electronica/techno/dupstep/etc. music? That's becoming popular, but nobody seems willing or able to step up. Can anyone find a Christian band that has the skill of Red Hot Chili Peppers?

I have wonder the same thing with Red Hot Chilli Peppers! I believe some body mentioned a Christian band similar to them.
Honestly, with the Dubstep and genres in between, is it really necessary for there to be a Christian Dubstep? Sure, if the songs that have explicit lyrics than sure. It just sounds like a vibrating car and free back massager when turned up all the way in a car.

Where are the Christian sci-fi programs? I dream of the day there is a Christian show akin to Star Trek or Doctor Who. But until these things come about, Christian media probably won't entertain me and others - hence we will gravitate toward secular media, which might put us at risk of taking pleasure from sinful things. At the same time, non-Christians may look and see what our media is like, and think that being Christian is very, very boring.

That is another issue I forgot to mentioned that I dislike or don't agree with. What makes Christians think Klove will reach out to a non-believer Musician? Or even the GOD Channel (sad right?) with a non-believer director?

 

[Tintin]

I thought 'contemporary' just meant 'modern', not necessarily CCM.

 

[TosinAsLeader]

There's far more quality Christian music than Christian movies. I could count all of the good Christian movies on one finger but there's heaps of quality Christian music - for example: P.O.D, Flyleaf.

I'm aware of this. Flyleaf is a great band and I listen to them almost everyday! I'm referring to Klove, the same rock bands with different band names, and the metalcore garbage where a vocalist can't even scream. Sad....:'(

 

[TosinAsLeader]

Will do.


Lampmode records.



A lot of the Christian movies are cheesy, that's why I prefer the biographies. I recently watched a biography on Corrie Ten Boom. It shows the strugles and the successes, and it's telling a real story so it's not some Theater Bachelors writing the script.


Doesn't have to be contemporary, and I would advise staying away from CCM as much of it is heretical.i

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Agreed.

Mad props to the hood yo.

I do like biographies. Like the new Extol biography coming out this year, that looks interesting!

Also, I'm fully aware that Contemporary doesn't have to the only acceptable music, but the fact is. It is!

 

[homwardbound]

Ok come on, we all need to be honest here. Christian: music, movies and various other attempts that failed. Why can't we not make cheesy Christian movies? I mean really why? Why does 'acceptable,' 'Christian,' music have to be contemporary? With the exception of a few things, everything is low quality and poorly constructed. What are your thoughts?

have you not heard of the Christian Rock and roll. Jesus is the Rock that rolls.
Norman greenbom Spirit in the Sky. Doobie Brothers Jesus is just allright with me. Catch that everything about him is correct right and perfect. One of the Lyrics "took me by the hand and led me all over this land"

 

[TosinAsLeader]

I thought 'contemporary' just meant 'modern', not necessarily CCM.

CCM= Contemporary Christian Music.

On Christian Forums, all genres that are Christian are labeled as CCM. So I guess you can say CCM is more of a modern phrase. LOL make sense because MOST (read before replying trolls, thanks!) modern music does suck

 

[homwardbound]

As a fan of the book, I'm not looking forward to the movie especially with the changes that are being made. Blah. I foresee it being slightly better than the Kirk Cameron version, but still pretty bad.

Could be a more realistic movie about Human nature I have found Gold Nuggets in all things here on the earth and sift all things to the hidden man of my heart to learn truth and stay free in the Spirit of god by God through Christ the author and finiisher of my faith in him

 

[TosinAsLeader]

really isnt any creativity in music period anymore. don't matter if we are talking Christian music, or mainstream rock.

what really annoys me is is how 1/3'rd of my FM Broadcast dial is "religious" most of it klove or air-one. but thats a whole other topic

I know! Christian music is suffering worst though! Another reason why underground is the way to go sometimes

 

[Tintin]

Yes, but you'd hardly call Flyleaf and P.O.D etc. CCM.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Yes, but you'd hardly call Flyleaf and P.O.D etc. CCM.

A lot of it isn't much better.