10th victim dies from injury sustained at Travis Scott concert

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ZNP

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Do satanists exist? Yes they do
Are they killing people?.. I'm not convinced
Great, my question is what would you need to see to convince you that they are killing people? Would the inquisition count? Would a worldwide pandemic created in a bioweapons lab surrounded by lies, cloaked in lies, and dripping with lies count? How about a Satanic version of the ten commandments written in stone with the first commandment being a deceitful way of saying to kill 7 billion?
 

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Do satanists exist? Yes they do
Are they killing people?.. I'm not convinced
FreeMasons are required to "believe in a supreme being" -- They are not atheists.

Now consider:

Code words for FreeMasons

"The angel that rides in the whirlwind and directs the storm"

"Shock and Awe"

"Mother of all bombs" = MOAB

"A fire in the minds of men"

"Novus ordo seclorum: New World Order"


11 represents a dark vision

22 vision combined with action

33 vision + action = accomplishment

For example, 11 years to the date of Bush's New World Order speech and 11 years before 2012 on Sept 11, 2001 Flight 11 crashed into the Twin Towers whose appearance side by side not only formed Masonic-like pillared gateway and architecturally depicted the number 11. Flight 11 hit the twin towers first and had 11 crew members. New York was the 11th state added to the union and New York City has 11 letters.

Both Bush's were members of FreeMasons. Flight 77 hit the Pentagon which is located on the 77th Meridian. The foundation stone for the Pentagon was laid in 1941 on September 11th in a Masonic ceremony.
 
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ZNP says it was satanic and the people that died were meant to die.
Dude says the event staff was negligent.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. People can play their roles without being aware of the roles they're really playing. Happens all the time.
 

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ZNP says it was satanic and the people that died were meant to die.
Dude says the event staff was negligent.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. People can play their roles without being aware of the roles they're really playing. Happens all the time.
Agreed. Look at the church how negligent they have been to tolerate Jezebel who kills Naboth claiming he was a heretic all to steal his vineyard just like the inquisition did for 500 years. They allow Balaam the false prophet to teach the believers to commit fornication and worship idols. Now there are those who do know the deep things of Satan and they will be judged accordingly, but there are also many who don't. Like you said they may be negligent in their walk with the Lord. There are others in the church who only pretend to be believers, having a name that they live and yet are dead, fully assured that their names are written in the book of life and yet not aware that if they do not repent their names will be blotted out. There are others boasting about how rich and prosperous they are while they order Jesus around not even aware that He is outside of the church knocking for them to open the door for Him.

Meanwhile there are some believers, not a lot, and certainly not the strong ones, who are standing at the door, holding it closed on the enemy while at the same time keeping the door open for people to repent and receive the Lord regardless of how hard the evil one tries to shut that door.
 

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The Inquisition was mentioned. The Inquisition was done by catholics. Catholics don't worship Satan so I don't see how that's relevant here
Also have you never seen a black metal concert? They are rife with satanic imagery and oddly no one gets killed at these concerts.
This was a domestic terror attack that had squat to do with satanism
 

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The Inquisition was mentioned. The Inquisition was done by catholics. Catholics don't worship Satan so I don't see how that's relevant here
On the Contrary, the Pope is a FreeMason, many Catholics have claimed that the hierarchy does worship Satan, you don't know what you are talking about. I'll trust Jesus on this one and His letter to Thyatira.

Also have you never seen a black metal concert? They are rife with satanic imagery and oddly no one gets killed at these concerts.
This was a domestic terror attack that had squat to do with satanism
So you have moved from negligent homicide to domestic terrorism? Keep dancing.
 

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On the Contrary, the Pope is a FreeMason, many Catholics have claimed that the hierarchy does worship Satan, you don't know what you are talking about. I'll trust Jesus on this one and His letter to Thyatira.


So you have moved from negligent homicide to domestic terrorism? Keep dancing.
You're doing that thing again were you straw man me.
I never said anything about negligent homicide.
Someone deliberately injecting people with needles during a crowded concert is domestic terrorism
I said the event staff is negligent for not shutting it down when they knew things were getting out of control
They're also negligent for letting too many people in because they were way too many people there
 

ZNP

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You're doing that thing again were you straw man me.
I never said anything about negligent homicide.
Someone deliberately injecting people with needles during a crowded concert is domestic terrorism
I said the event staff is negligent for not shutting it down when they knew things were getting out of control
They're also negligent for letting too many people in because they were way too many people there
If the event people were negligent and people died they can go on trial for negligent homicide because they were responsible for people's safety, if someone jabbed someone with a needle it is assault, to jump to "domestic terrorism" is a leap unless we find some kind of conspiracy or perhaps they claimed responsibility for some cause, etc.
 

Dude653

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If the event people were negligent and people died they can go on trial for negligent homicide because they were responsible for people's safety, if someone jabbed someone with a needle it is assault, to jump to "domestic terrorism" is a leap unless we find some kind of conspiracy or perhaps they claimed responsibility for some cause, etc.
This isn't hard. There was people there injecting people with needles containing an unknown drug.
This caused the crowd to panic and Rush the stage which in turn caused people to be crushed to death
So the people with the needles are directly responsible for the crushing deaths
The event staff is negligent for allowing the place to become too overcrowded
Also there were police officers there taking pictures while casualties were happening right behind them so they are negligent also
 

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This isn't hard. There was people there injecting people with needles containing an unknown drug.
This caused the crowd to panic and Rush the stage which in turn caused people to be crushed to death
So the people with the needles are directly responsible for the crushing deaths
The event staff is negligent for allowing the place to become too overcrowded
Also there were police officers there taking pictures while casualties were happening right behind them so they are negligent also
Yes it is easy, if we know who the people are jabbing others with needles we'll be able to untangle this web. However, I am surprised, stunned really that people were allowed into that packed, crowded venue with needles. Don't they have to walk through metal detectors? I saw video of people entering that place and packed in afterwards and it would not take much to convince me that the event organizers were negligent. The law is simple, if you are responsible for a safety hazard that results in people being killed then you are guilty of negligent homicide.

From what I gather the people were not killed directly by the needles. Still if you commit a crime in which people are killed as a result then you also are guilty of 2nd degree murder.

So for the moment forget about the civil suits, the issue right now is criminal. You will have a much stronger case in civil court if they are already convicted of negligent homicide and 2nd degree murder.