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And another cop has been shot and killed....
Police seek suspects after officer shot dead north of Chicago -reports
Police seek suspects after officer shot dead north of Chicago -reports
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Only criminals with a lot of melatonin in their skin and the families that never raised them to be productive moral members of society's lives matter to the inheritors of the radical 60's rebels whom now control the left.
Just as the neo-cons displaced true conservatives to take over the Republican party and the right's narrative, the radical progressive liberals took over the Democrat party displacing classical liberals and the left's narrative.
Down, down, down the U.S. tumbles. How low can we go in the iron grip of two faulty ideologies? Since nobody's doing anything to reform that problem, it appears that we're going to find out.
Buckle up for the drop:
Just as the neo-cons displaced true conservatives to take over the Republican party and the right's narrative, the radical progressive liberals took over the Democrat party displacing classical liberals and the left's narrative.
Down, down, down the U.S. tumbles. How low can we go in the iron grip of two faulty ideologies? Since nobody's doing anything to reform that problem, it appears that we're going to find out.
Buckle up for the drop:
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As a felon, the perp was forbidden from owning firearms of any kind. Gun control failed.
It always fails on large land masses due to it being utterly impractical to enforce upon a criminal population determined to possess firearms. Mexico is a case example of gun control failing so badly that the government is now rearming it's population to correct the out-of-control illegally armed criminals operating there with impunity upon and in a population made utterly defenseless by strict gun control.
Criminals always obtain firearms. They can make untraceable full auto and semi-auto assault rifles using 3D printers and templates downloaded off the Internet. They can make fully operational 12 gauge pump shotguns in one day from parts at any local hardware store. Etc... Videos all over the Internet show them how as well as printed instructions for sale in the back of magazines. In Mexico, criminal organizations simply constructed clandestine factories and mass produced guns and ammo. It's easy, the templates and instructions are freely available for a wide range of military firearms all over the world.
All misguided people like you end up doing is disarming law abiding citizens so that they're defenseless against illegally armed criminals which is an evil and unscriptural thing to do.
It always fails on large land masses due to it being utterly impractical to enforce upon a criminal population determined to possess firearms. Mexico is a case example of gun control failing so badly that the government is now rearming it's population to correct the out-of-control illegally armed criminals operating there with impunity upon and in a population made utterly defenseless by strict gun control.
Criminals always obtain firearms. They can make untraceable full auto and semi-auto assault rifles using 3D printers and templates downloaded off the Internet. They can make fully operational 12 gauge pump shotguns in one day from parts at any local hardware store. Etc... Videos all over the Internet show them how as well as printed instructions for sale in the back of magazines. In Mexico, criminal organizations simply constructed clandestine factories and mass produced guns and ammo. It's easy, the templates and instructions are freely available for a wide range of military firearms all over the world.
All misguided people like you end up doing is disarming law abiding citizens so that they're defenseless against illegally armed criminals which is an evil and unscriptural thing to do.
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That's always the left's response: "Take away the guns and nobody gets killed."
Utter freakin' nonsense! The old NRA bumper sticker is just as true today as it was 30 years ago:
And gun control doesn't work when there are literally millions of handguns on the streets awaiting a buyer whose got $50 and an itch to shoot somebody.
You can't stop manufacturing handguns, or shotguns, or rifles, because then the government has nothing to fear from a wronged electorate, and can do anything it wants.
Utter freakin' nonsense! The old NRA bumper sticker is just as true today as it was 30 years ago:
And gun control doesn't work when there are literally millions of handguns on the streets awaiting a buyer whose got $50 and an itch to shoot somebody.
You can't stop manufacturing handguns, or shotguns, or rifles, because then the government has nothing to fear from a wronged electorate, and can do anything it wants.
Fair points, but then something still has to be done. We can't keep going with the status quo on guns or else you're just going to have more bloodshed.
Again not saying to get rid of all guns, though that indeed be the most ideal. We gotta think of something here though. The violence is getting out of hand all ready, and if the status quo is maintained it will only get worse.
Consider some questions to ask with this specific case and how he procured a gun illegally. Well where did that gun come from? How can we crackdown lawfully against the illegal gun trade? How can we reduce the amount of illicit guns and ammunition that are so easily available in the US? How can we make it harder for criminals to obtain guns? How can we make guns less culturally popular? These are all tough questions of our time here and now that have to be considered.
Again not saying to get rid of all guns, though that indeed be the most ideal. We gotta think of something here though. The violence is getting out of hand all ready, and if the status quo is maintained it will only get worse.
Consider some questions to ask with this specific case and how he procured a gun illegally. Well where did that gun come from? How can we crackdown lawfully against the illegal gun trade? How can we reduce the amount of illicit guns and ammunition that are so easily available in the US? How can we make it harder for criminals to obtain guns? How can we make guns less culturally popular? These are all tough questions of our time here and now that have to be considered.
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I use to be puzzled when the leftist political demographic asserted that present strict drug laws need to be discarded because they're an expensive failure while they simultaneously called for strict gun laws.
It's like "duh." My eight year old nephew can figure that one out but an entire demographic of adult U.S. public education "graduates" on the left are wholly incapable of doing so.
It's like "duh." My eight year old nephew can figure that one out but an entire demographic of adult U.S. public education "graduates" on the left are wholly incapable of doing so.
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Yes, something does need to be done: we need to return to a godly family based society that imparts morality to the next generation.
If the citizenry of the U.S. aren't interested in doing that, and it looks like most aren't, then we need to ensure the law abiding citizenry is adequate armed and trained to defend themselves.
This idea that we go in the opposite direction and disarm the law abiding citizens and/or make it harder for them to obtain firearms and use them when the situation actually calls for it only victimizes them... a wholly immoral and unscriptural thing to do.
Any immoral and ungodly generation is going to breed criminals who seek an advantage over those they intend to victimize and you are now living in one that's growing steadily worse. It is for this reason that these incidents are going to increase. It is going to get worse and you cannot stop that from occurring by using the government to put every law abiding citizen at a disadvantage of a growing criminal population.
You can; however, statistically reduce the number of these incidents and the aggregate of damage by ensuring law abiding citizens are adequately armed and trained to stop them when they occur.
Ideally, a sweeping revival would occur and the nation's citizenry return to the morality-based Christianized God and family model they benefitted from for so long.
As that's not occurring, the law abiding citizenry needs to be adequately armed and educated which is wholly moral, scriptural, and societally desirable.
If the citizenry of the U.S. aren't interested in doing that, and it looks like most aren't, then we need to ensure the law abiding citizenry is adequate armed and trained to defend themselves.
This idea that we go in the opposite direction and disarm the law abiding citizens and/or make it harder for them to obtain firearms and use them when the situation actually calls for it only victimizes them... a wholly immoral and unscriptural thing to do.
Any immoral and ungodly generation is going to breed criminals who seek an advantage over those they intend to victimize and you are now living in one that's growing steadily worse. It is for this reason that these incidents are going to increase. It is going to get worse and you cannot stop that from occurring by using the government to put every law abiding citizen at a disadvantage of a growing criminal population.
You can; however, statistically reduce the number of these incidents and the aggregate of damage by ensuring law abiding citizens are adequately armed and trained to stop them when they occur.
Ideally, a sweeping revival would occur and the nation's citizenry return to the morality-based Christianized God and family model they benefitted from for so long.
As that's not occurring, the law abiding citizenry needs to be adequately armed and educated which is wholly moral, scriptural, and societally desirable.
I agree a more moral society be best, but the idea of increasing guns is an oxymoron to dealing with gun violence. It puts the Christians at a disadvantage since we are not permitted to kill people. So to increase guns only gives advantage to the criminals by making it easier for them to get these demon-inspired machines. We can even see how this illogical idea of increasing guns has lead to the increase in gun violence. We can see by comparison in lands where they have decreased the overall amount of guns, they have a significant decrease in gun violence. It's pretty simple to understand, but not so simple to implement in America.
Gun advocates are going to have to budge on something here or else the gun violence will either increase out of control and there will be relative anarchy or the government will have to use strong-handed authoritarian tactics to deal with the problem. Neither of which is good for Christians or lawful gun owners.
Gun advocates are going to have to budge on something here or else the gun violence will either increase out of control and there will be relative anarchy or the government will have to use strong-handed authoritarian tactics to deal with the problem. Neither of which is good for Christians or lawful gun owners.
Worked with drugs, right?
Maybe cops should become members of the community again and stop separating themselves from their fellow man. It's easy to demonize a group of people when they show no compassion for others and just care about fining and arresting people to generate revenue.
Perhaps cops should portray themselves as "people" again.
The Bible is pretty clear about self defense. If I remember correctly, the correct translation for the "thou shalt not kill" passage is "thou shalt not kill without good reason". I could be wrong about that one though.
Maybe cops should become members of the community again and stop separating themselves from their fellow man. It's easy to demonize a group of people when they show no compassion for others and just care about fining and arresting people to generate revenue.
Perhaps cops should portray themselves as "people" again.
The Bible is pretty clear about self defense. If I remember correctly, the correct translation for the "thou shalt not kill" passage is "thou shalt not kill without good reason". I could be wrong about that one though.
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It's not an oxymoron. You're making false assertions. Christians are scripturally empowered as well as empowered by the U.S. government to kill people in moral and lawful self-defense.
And, as I stated and for the reasons I already stated, this idea that passing laws which disarm and/or inadequately arm moral law abiding people in an attempt to disarm criminals fails logically and observably in the world. It doesn't work. Criminals obtain guns illegally, make them if necessary, and resort to suitable alternatives as well (e.g. pipe bombs, IEDs, poisons, etc...).
Neither do your statistics. Island populations aside, on large land masses strict gun control has not resulted in criminals and criminal organizations being disarmed. From Mexico to China, strict gun control has resulted in untold suffering for unarmed law abiding citizens at the hands of illegally armed criminals and criminal organizations.
You are making false assertions and demonstrating that you're grossly ignorant on this issue and the associated empirical data.
Raise a godly family and teach them to bear their second amendment competently. Stop trying to use the government to put good people at the mercy of bad ones. It doesn't work and the resulting blood ends up on your hands when you stand by God and explain that you had unrealistic but good intentions in using government to put good people at the mercy of bad people who then victimized them.
And, as I stated and for the reasons I already stated, this idea that passing laws which disarm and/or inadequately arm moral law abiding people in an attempt to disarm criminals fails logically and observably in the world. It doesn't work. Criminals obtain guns illegally, make them if necessary, and resort to suitable alternatives as well (e.g. pipe bombs, IEDs, poisons, etc...).
Neither do your statistics. Island populations aside, on large land masses strict gun control has not resulted in criminals and criminal organizations being disarmed. From Mexico to China, strict gun control has resulted in untold suffering for unarmed law abiding citizens at the hands of illegally armed criminals and criminal organizations.
You are making false assertions and demonstrating that you're grossly ignorant on this issue and the associated empirical data.
Raise a godly family and teach them to bear their second amendment competently. Stop trying to use the government to put good people at the mercy of bad ones. It doesn't work and the resulting blood ends up on your hands when you stand by God and explain that you had unrealistic but good intentions in using government to put good people at the mercy of bad people who then victimized them.
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That's exactly right. There were two Ferguson reports published by the federal government. The first (see here) clearly exonerated the officer of any wrong-doing whatsoever but the second (see here) clearly showed the Ferguson police department was acting in exactly the manner you state here.
The first report should be sent to every black family and liberal in America, the second to every police department in America. Two problems do not equal a solution.
The first report should be sent to every black family and liberal in America, the second to every police department in America. Two problems do not equal a solution.
Luke 9:54-56
[SUP]54 [/SUP]And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
[SUP]55 [/SUP]But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
[SUP]56 [/SUP]For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
I have forewarned you of what will happen if something is not done about this gun violence, therefore the blood be quit of my hands.
[SUP]54 [/SUP]And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
[SUP]55 [/SUP]But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
[SUP]56 [/SUP]For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
I have forewarned you of what will happen if something is not done about this gun violence, therefore the blood be quit of my hands.
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The blood of any criminal I send onto judgement will be on their own hands as I'll only do so morally in legitimate self-defense.
I don't worry about criminals, I prepare for them. What worries me are misguided people like you who want to make me the criminal for retaining the ability to protect myself against actual criminals seeking to victimize me.
You're actually the greatest threat to moral people the world over. At least with the criminal, when we're adequately armed and prepared: we stand a good chance of defeating them (especially when we work together).
With misguided people like you in charge, we're harmless victims to an illegally armed criminal population who in places like Mexico stooped so low as to kidnapping innocent children and selling their organs on the black market after murdering them and nobody could do anything about it: Mexican cartel leader accused of killing children to harvest organs - NY Daily News
They just walked up to the parents and stuck an illegal gun in their unarmed defenseless faces and drug the child off to a local slaughter house for organ removal.
That's the world people like you create. A hell on earth for the defenseless unarmed moral law abiding citizen.
I don't worry about criminals, I prepare for them. What worries me are misguided people like you who want to make me the criminal for retaining the ability to protect myself against actual criminals seeking to victimize me.
You're actually the greatest threat to moral people the world over. At least with the criminal, when we're adequately armed and prepared: we stand a good chance of defeating them (especially when we work together).
With misguided people like you in charge, we're harmless victims to an illegally armed criminal population who in places like Mexico stooped so low as to kidnapping innocent children and selling their organs on the black market after murdering them and nobody could do anything about it: Mexican cartel leader accused of killing children to harvest organs - NY Daily News
They just walked up to the parents and stuck an illegal gun in their unarmed defenseless faces and drug the child off to a local slaughter house for organ removal.
That's the world people like you create. A hell on earth for the defenseless unarmed moral law abiding citizen.
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Whether you are for or against the second amendment - it is a fact that many innocent people are shot dead because of this. I'm not going to tell you Americans how to live or what laws to adopt, but here in Belgium you can't have weapons unless you're a huntslan or something and you have some kind of certificate. And guess what, news like this we almost never hear. The only news we get is about street fights or small knives being used but almost never they use guns, because they don't have any. Freedom is great but it should not be disadvantageous (get shot) for so many people...
I haven't made you the criminal at all, but unless something is done here to curb gun violence and you gun owners get on board to implement some sort of gun control, but still retain the 2nd amendment, then the criminals will either run amok or the government will turn against you and persecute you.
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You're a speck on the map with only 11 million people. We have more than 320 million people on a land mass that's 9.842 million km.
In 2012, Belgium's murder rate was 1.6 per 100,000. In 2012, the U.S. murder rate was 4.5 per 100,000. But, if you subtract African Americans (who represent about 13% of the U.S. population), the U.S. murder rate drops in half making it comparable with Belgium only without all the leftist totalitarianism. If you just compare the white demographic for homicide rate in both countries, the U.S. rate is actually lower than Belgium. Think about that.
For perspective, El Salvador's murder rate is trending at 96.8 this year: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...-skyrockets/RnCTlaZILn10qLJuIvZ9pL/story.html
Oh, and El Salvador has relatively strict gun control laws in place. El Salvador requires a full background check on every applicant every time a gun is sold and the government reserves the right to deny these gun permit application at their sole discretion as El Salvador has no second amendment. Furthermore, the government maintains a registry for every gun in civilian hands, conduct buy back programs amongst the civilian population, and by law anyone convicted of a criminal act cannot ever legally own a firearm.
Yet their murder rate is 96.8 per 100,000 people.
You might want to read this 2011 World Bank study which found that there was little correlation between the estimated number of civilian-owned guns and homicide rates.
In 2012, Belgium's murder rate was 1.6 per 100,000. In 2012, the U.S. murder rate was 4.5 per 100,000. But, if you subtract African Americans (who represent about 13% of the U.S. population), the U.S. murder rate drops in half making it comparable with Belgium only without all the leftist totalitarianism. If you just compare the white demographic for homicide rate in both countries, the U.S. rate is actually lower than Belgium. Think about that.
For perspective, El Salvador's murder rate is trending at 96.8 this year: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...-skyrockets/RnCTlaZILn10qLJuIvZ9pL/story.html
Oh, and El Salvador has relatively strict gun control laws in place. El Salvador requires a full background check on every applicant every time a gun is sold and the government reserves the right to deny these gun permit application at their sole discretion as El Salvador has no second amendment. Furthermore, the government maintains a registry for every gun in civilian hands, conduct buy back programs amongst the civilian population, and by law anyone convicted of a criminal act cannot ever legally own a firearm.
Yet their murder rate is 96.8 per 100,000 people.
You might want to read this 2011 World Bank study which found that there was little correlation between the estimated number of civilian-owned guns and homicide rates.