Stunning photos of Pluto released by NASA

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NASA releases dramatic new Pluto images



NASA has released more stunning images from New Horizons’ historic flyby of Pluto, which show icy mountains, fog, and the dwarf planet’s landscape dramatically backlit by the sun.

The images, released Thursday, were taken on July 14 and downlinked to Earth on Sept. 13.


Wow. I'm impressed. We don't think of Pluto as having any personality, but there it is, floating around the sun at an impossible distance, being real. Neat.
 
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Wow. I'm impressed. We don't think of Pluto as having any personality, but there it is, floating around the sun at an impossible distance, being real. Neat.
So you believe NASA when they pump out photographs of a planet you've never seen, but you can't get behind their frankly expert opinions regarding climate change within the planet we actually live on?

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I hereby knight you Sir Paradoxical Man.
 
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So you believe NASA when they pump out photographs of a planet you've never seen, but you can't get behind their frankly expert opinions regarding climate change within the planet we actually live on?

:confused:

I hereby knight you Sir Paradoxical Man.
Another brilliant comeback to leave me speechless? Didn't work.

Note the name of the agency in question: "National Aeronautics and Space Administration."

National: of or relating to a nation; common to or characteristic of a whole nation.

Aeronautics: the science or practice of travel through the air.

and: used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.

Space: the dimensions of height, depth, and width within which all things exist and move.

Administration: the process or activity of running a business, organization, etc.

Tell me wherein lies the affiance capability of NASA to speak intelligently on climate? They only launch climatology satellites, they don't glean data from them. That is done by NOAA. Their charge is to guide, develop, contractually encourage, and administrate the exploration of air and space transportation. Nothing more. Pluto is certainly well within their purview. Climate is not.
 
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Another brilliant comeback to leave me speechless? Didn't work.

Note the name of the agency in question: "National Aeronautics and Space Administration."

National: of or relating to a nation; common to or characteristic of a whole nation.

Aeronautics: the science or practice of travel through the air.

and: used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.

Space: the dimensions of height, depth, and width within which all things exist and move.

Administration: the process or activity of running a business, organization, etc.

Tell me wherein lies the affiance capability of NASA to speak intelligently on climate? They only launch climatology satellites, they don't glean data from them. That is done by NOAA. Their charge is to guide, develop, contractually encourage, and administrate the exploration of air and space transportation. Nothing more. Pluto is certainly well within their purview. Climate is not.
Certainly explains why they have a whole department dedicated to climate observation and study.

http://climate.nasa.gov/

Here's a little tidbit from it:

NASA conducts a program of breakthrough research on climate science, enhancing the ability of the international scientific community to advance global integrated Earth system science using space-based observations.
The agency's research encompasses solar activity, sea level rise, the temperature of the atmosphere and the oceans, the state of the ozone layer, air pollution, and changes in sea ice and land ice. NASA scientists regularly appear in the mainstream press as climate experts. So how did the space agency end up taking such a big role in climate science?
When NASA was first created by the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958, it was given the role of developing technology for “space observations,” but it wasn’t given a role in Earth science. The agency’s leaders embedded the technology effort in an Earth Observations program centered at the new Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, in the U.S.. It was an “Applications” program, in NASA-speak. Other agencies of the federal government were responsible for carrying out Earth science research: the Weather Bureau (now the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration or NOAA) and the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). The Applications program signed cooperative agreements with these other agencies that obligated NASA to develop observational technology while NOAA and the USGS carried out the scientific research. The Nimbus series of experimental weather satellites and the Landsat series of land resources satellites were the result of the Applications program.
This Applications model of cross-agency research failed during the 1970s, though, due to the bad economy and an extended period of high inflation. Congress responded by cutting the budgets of all three agencies, leaving NOAA and the USGS unable to fund their part of the arrangement and putting pressure on NASA, too. At the same time, congressional leaders wanted to see NASA doing more research toward “national needs.” These needs included things like energy efficiency, pollution, ozone depletion and climate change. In 1976, Congress revised the Space Act to give NASA authority to carry out stratospheric ozone research, formalizing the agency’s movement into the Earth sciences.


Nasa have been studying the climate for nearly 40 years. They recruit climatologists, among all sorts of other scientists.
 
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Lol do I even have to point out how obviously fake these pictures are? Is it not even so obvious just by the look of them?
 

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Lol do I even have to point out how obviously fake these pictures are? Is it not even so obvious just by the look of them?
Oh no science, time to shove my head in the sand and call them fake. They might injure one of my fragile insane ideas about the universe.
 
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Oh no science, time to shove my head in the sand and call them fake. They might injure one of my fragile insane ideas about the universe.
It's not science if all they have is a fake picture. Lol, You really don't find the claim of sending a flimsy robot out there just a bit outlandish? The pictures even besides looking fake looks even worse than the fake pictures they have claimed to be "pluto" before.
 

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So do you really think pluto looks like? And are all the probes we sent fake? Do you even believe in the moon landing or was that a stanley kubrick special?
 
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So do you really think pluto looks like? And are all the probes we sent fake? Do you even believe in the moon landing or was that a stanley kubrick special?
Don't you think Kubrick would have at least made the fake moon landing pictures and videos look more convincing?

Haven't you accounted for all the problems with the robots and the paradigm they work under that render such things impossible (supposed harshness of space, the cold, radiation, asteroid belt, debris, sheer distance and time, lack of fuel, inability to replicate experiment except with CGI, etc.)?

Why do all the fake pictures of "pluto" over the years look so different and why do they all look like they were done using poor quality CGI?
 
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Don't you think Kubrick would have at least made the fake moon landing pictures and videos look more convincing?

Haven't you accounted for all the problems with the robots and the paradigm they work under that render such things impossible (supposed harshness of space, the cold, radiation, asteroid belt, debris, sheer distance and time, lack of fuel, inability to replicate experiment except with CGI, etc.)?

Why do all the fake pictures of "pluto" over the years look so different and why do they all look like they were done using poor quality CGI?
Please, tell me again how you have a PhD in space systems engineering.
 
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Please, tell me again how you have a PhD in space systems engineering.
Does one have to have a piece of paper from a dubious institution that promotes lies to have the ability to reason?

Or would that be evidence of one being beholden to such an institution and their ability to reason compromised, due to the outstanding amount of debt they owe to it?
 
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Lol do I even have to point out how obviously fake these pictures are? Is it not even so obvious just by the look of them?
They're definitely fake. I can see my house! On a serious note, and I'm not saying the pictures are fake, but Pluto being warm enough for fog is a foreign concept to me. What gases exist as fog/clouds at such extremely cold temperatures?
 
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They're definitely fake. I can see my house! On a serious note, and I'm not saying the pictures are fake, but Pluto being warm enough for fog is a foreign concept to me. What gases exist as fog/clouds at such extremely cold temperatures?
They claim "pluto's" atmosphere freezes over and falls and then melts and reconstitutes.

Pretty outlandish, I agree.
 
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Pluto is a vast distance away but it looks like Micky Mouse is very close by.
 
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Does one have to have a piece of paper from a dubious institution that promotes lies to have the ability to reason?

Or would that be evidence of one being beholden to such an institution and their ability to reason compromised, due to the outstanding amount of debt they owe to it?
So you think that people get a PhD in space systems engineering and fool themselves into believing the scientific information because they might or might not owe money to the educational institution who provided their degree? Would you apply the same logic to getting a job fixing cars and say: car mechanics fool themselves into believing in mechanical engineering principles because they owe money to the college that educated them in car mechanics?

And you have the audacity to talk about reason?? You sound like you live on Pluto.
 
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They claim "pluto's" atmosphere freezes over and falls and then melts and reconstitutes.

Pretty outlandish, I agree.
Why is it outlandish that a chemical composition changes its physical state to coincide with temperature fluctuations? Is it outlandish for hydrogen to boil? Steel to melt? Tea to cool? Water to freeze? What's outlandish about that?
 

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Does one have to have a piece of paper from a dubious institution that promotes lies to have the ability to reason?

Or would that be evidence of one being beholden to such an institution and their ability to reason compromised, due to the outstanding amount of debt they owe to it?
So you think that people get a PhD in space systems engineering and fool themselves into believing the scientific information because they might or might not owe money to the educational institution who provided their degree? Would you apply the same logic to getting a job fixing cars and say: car mechanics fool themselves into believing in mechanical engineering principles because they owe money to the college that educated them in car mechanics?

And you have the audacity to talk about reason?? You sound like you live on Pluto.

He's a flat earth peep. Believes exploration of the moon was all fake. Actually, a very interesting fellow.
 
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So you think that people get a PhD in space systems engineering and fool themselves into believing the scientific information because they might or might not owe money to the educational institution who provided their degree? Would you apply the same logic to getting a job fixing cars and say: car mechanics fool themselves into believing in mechanical engineering principles because they owe money to the college that educated them in car mechanics?

And you have the audacity to talk about reason?? You sound like you live on Pluto.
If the car mechanic claims his car has travelled 4.67 billion miles at a speed of 36,373 mph through a field of boulders without hitting any debris and without refueling; would you question his claim?
 
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Why is it outlandish that a chemical composition changes its physical state to coincide with temperature fluctuations? Is it outlandish for hydrogen to boil? Steel to melt? Tea to cool? Water to freeze? What's outlandish about that?
Where's the heat come from? If you say the sun, then you have a big problem and massive contradictions with the paradigm of the other stars they claim to be earths.