Stunning photos of Pluto released by NASA

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If the car mechanic claims his car has travelled 4.67 billion miles at a speed of 36,373 mph through a field of boulders without hitting any debris and without refueling; would you question his claim?
That's 'cause he had it on cruise control. There were no dents, just a few dings.
 
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If the car mechanic claims his car has travelled 4.67 billion miles at a speed of 36,373 mph through a field of boulders without hitting any debris and without refueling; would you question his claim?
Yes, but mostly he's a car mechanic, not a rocket scientist.
 
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Yes, but mostly he's a car mechanic, not a rocket scientist.
Then it is more than fair to question the rocket scientist's questionable claims and the claims of dubious institutions known for their lies.
 
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Where's the heat come from? If you say the sun, then you have a big problem and massive contradictions with the paradigm of the other stars they claim to be earths.
Have you ever looked at a diagram of Pluto's orbit?
 
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Then it is more than fair to question the rocket scientist's questionable claims and the claims of dubious institutions known for their lies.
Only if you have any real understanding of the principles you're arguing. Obviously you don't. It's like someone in the 1920's claiming it's impossible for a glass screen to show moving images made of light. "TV's can't exist!"
 

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Only if you have any real understanding of the principles you're arguing. Obviously you don't. It's like someone in the 1920's claiming it's impossible for a glass screen to show moving images made of light. "TV's can't exist!"
Actually, the TV has little people inside with tiny buildings and cars. They live in their own little world.
 
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Only if you have any real understanding of the principles you're arguing. Obviously you don't. It's like someone in the 1920's claiming it's impossible for a glass screen to show moving images made of light. "TV's can't exist!"
Seems to me those whom cannot understand the principles of reality defer to obviously fake pictures and unproven or disproven theories from dubious institutions famous for promoting lies.
 

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Seems to me those whom cannot understand the principles of reality defer to obviously fake pictures and unproven or disproven theories from dubious institutions famous for promoting lies.
GodIsSalvation,

If we don't know what Pluto looks like up close...
how can we say these photos aren't Pluto?
 
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They're definitely fake. I can see my house! On a serious note, and I'm not saying the pictures are fake, but Pluto being warm enough for fog is a foreign concept to me. What gases exist as fog/clouds at such extremely cold temperatures?
Nitrogen (freezes at -210 C.). Helium(-272). Hydrogen (-259). Pluto's temperature extremes are between -233 and -223 C.
 
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GodIsSalvation,

If we don't know what Pluto looks like up close...
how can we say these photos aren't Pluto?
One way is simple, the obvious fake look of the pictures. Another way is the source, a dubious institution that is famous for fake pictures. You can compare the problems and discrepancies between their fake pictures. Another way is looking at the impossibility by their own paradigm of getting a robot out there. Yet another way is look at the obvious contradictions in their own model (ie: the asteroid belt). Look at the contradictions of their model compared to reality (ie: fuel). Look at the contradictions of their claims compared to the Bible (ie: basic cosmology).

Even look at the contradictions of their own claims. Consider how they claim to have released pictures of what they call "pluto" in July, and in the article in the OP claim it took all this time to get these particular fake pictures which they claim were taken at the same time. So either the fake pictures from before were fake or the fake pictures this time were fake, or most logically both are fake.

Now I have some questions for you, and any other Christian here. The atheists can ignore it, they don't understand anything anyways. Why would you blindly trust without question an institution that tells absurd lies, that names its projects and names stars after abominations and demons, and that has a very open stance of being against the Bible?
 
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One way is simple, the obvious fake look of the pictures. Another way is the source, a dubious institution that is famous for fake pictures. You can compare the problems and discrepancies between their fake pictures. Another way is looking at the impossibility by their own paradigm of getting a robot out there. Yet another way is look at the obvious contradictions in their own model (ie: the asteroid belt). Look at the contradictions of their model compared to reality (ie: fuel). Look at the contradictions of their claims compared to the Bible (ie: basic cosmology).

Even look at the contradictions of their own claims. Consider how they claim to have released pictures of what they call "pluto" in July, and in the article in the OP claim it took all this time to get these particular fake pictures which they claim were taken at the same time. So either the fake pictures from before were fake or the fake pictures this time were fake, or most logically both are fake.

Now I have some questions for you, and any other Christian here. The atheists can ignore it, they don't understand anything anyways. Why would you blindly trust without question an institution that tells absurd lies, that names its projects and names stars after abominations and demons, and that has a very open stance of being against the Bible?
Science has always been at odds with the church, because scientific facts posit uncomfortable questions for the Church. The Churches' answer has been either to kill scientists and suppress information, or more recently, to adopt more allegorical interpretations of various parts of the bible.

The second is logical, but you're still stuck on at least the denial part of the first.
 

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One way is simple, the obvious fake look of the pictures. Another way is the source, a dubious institution that is famous for fake pictures. You can compare the problems and discrepancies between their fake pictures. Another way is looking at the impossibility by their own paradigm of getting a robot out there. Yet another way is look at the obvious contradictions in their own model (ie: the asteroid belt). Look at the contradictions of their model compared to reality (ie: fuel). Look at the contradictions of their claims compared to the Bible (ie: basic cosmology).

Even look at the contradictions of their own claims. Consider how they claim to have released pictures of what they call "pluto" in July, and in the article in the OP claim it took all this time to get these particular fake pictures which they claim were taken at the same time. So either the fake pictures from before were fake or the fake pictures this time were fake, or most logically both are fake.

Now I have some questions for you, and any other Christian here. The atheists can ignore it, they don't understand anything anyways. Why would you blindly trust without question an institution that tells absurd lies, that names its projects and names stars after abominations and demons, and that has a very open stance of being against the Bible?
I don't "blindly" trust anyone...

neither government agencies, nor the people selling books to discredit them.


Peace.
: )
 
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Science has always been at odds with the church, because scientific facts posit uncomfortable questions for the Church. The Churches' answer has been either to kill scientists and suppress information, or more recently, to adopt more allegorical interpretations of various parts of the bible.

The second is logical, but you're still stuck on at least the denial part of the first.
Science is not at odds with the Bible. Science is what can be tested or observed. Science also has to be able to be replicated. As it stands, much of what they call science today is not science at all being founded purely on unproven or disproven theories and fake images.

A good example of this is Darwinism, for which there is ample scientific proof against it, but only theories, hoaxes, fake pictures, and dubious institutions to support it. It's much the same as with most modern cosmological theories such as heliocentricism. In fact these are inseparably linked. Perhaps this is why so few question the claims, being that if they discovered how false one is it would destroy the premise of the others.
 
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I don't "blindly" trust anyone...

neither government agencies, nor the people selling books to discredit them.


Peace.
: )
I agree to this. We are not to trust these dubious institutions that clearly have an agenda to make money or to try to discredit the Bible with their lies.
 
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Science is not at odds with the Bible. Science is what can be tested or observed. Science also has to be able to be replicated. As it stands, much of what they call science today is not science at all being founded purely on unproven or disproven theories and fake images.

A good example of this is Darwinism, for which there is ample scientific proof against it, but only theories, hoaxes, fake pictures, and dubious institutions to support it. It's much the same as with most modern cosmological theories such as heliocentricism. In fact these are inseparably linked. Perhaps this is why so few question the claims, being that if they discovered how false one is it would destroy the premise of the others.
If you can't believe in heliocentrism then even simple geometry is beyond you. So there's no point in me beginning to explain stratification, fossilization, radiometric dating, DNA, chromosomes, genetic mutation or environmental natural selection. It's all gobbledygook as far as your understanding is concerned. Why bother?