France - Two muslims murdered a priest during the church service

[breno785au]

Let me help you with that. Liberals and other deluded blind people will just play down any attack by a muslim, you will often see "acting alone" or then change that the influence was due to the latest bad guys, b. in this case it is now Islamic State.acked up by "Islam is a religion of Peace" comment.

Truth is, the end game of Islam is to take over the world. When Islamic population reaches certain percentage, muslims become more aggressive and drive out all the non-muslims. Bradford in UK is a good example, on national scale we saw this in Sudan, where the Muslims drove everyone out of the North. We are seeing it in Nigeria as well.

We are under attack by Islam on many fronts, but many are blind to it. A white kid shooting up a school or church is acting alone out of hate, it is totally opposite end to a Muslim doing the same. A Muslim will be doing these things because he is being driven by Religious duty and just following orders, be it through the Koran or through the chain of command to any group affiliate with. It is war.

Could be that or your just being spoon fed media fear frenzy, hindus attack christians, non believers attack non believers, "christians" have slaughtered people in their native lands for colonisation, christians come on forums and attack other christians.
I will not allow this fear frenzy to infiltrate my mind, i have had personal relationships with muslims who were normal people like anyone else, how about yourself? Does your fear affect your love for them if you have personal encounters with them?

 

[Adstar]

Could be that or your just being spoon fed media fear frenzy, hindus attack christians, non believers attack non believers, "christians" have slaughtered people in their native lands for colonisation, christians come on forums and attack other christians.
I will not allow this fear frenzy to infiltrate my mind, i have had personal relationships with muslims who were normal people like anyone else, how about yourself? Does your fear affect your love for them if you have personal encounters with them?

Your confusing muslims with islam breno785au

They are two different things.. islam is evil but many muslims are not willing to follow the quran to the letter because their conscience will not allow them to Slay until they are Slain.. Judging a religion by the people around you that claim to be followers of that religion is flaunt with danger because the truth most religious people do not believe and follow all the teachings of their religion..

The problem with islam comes because some muslims Do end up following the quran to the letter and thats when terrorist attacks happen... It may only be like 1 percent of muslims who decide to take the quran seriously. but when you have a billion muslims that means 10 million muslims are prepared to follow the religion of islam unto death.. And that is a whole lot of terrorists that can do a whole lot of damage..

 

[breno785au]

Your confusing muslims with islam breno785au

They are two different things.. islam is evil but many muslims are not willing to follow the quran to the letter because their conscience will not allow them to Slay until they are Slain.. Judging a religion by the people around you that claim to be followers of that religion is flaunt with danger because the truth most religious people do not believe and follow all the teachings of their religion..

The problem with islam comes because some muslims Do end up following the quran to the letter and thats when terrorist attacks happen... It may only be like 1 percent of muslims who decide to take the quran seriously. but when you have a billion muslims that means 10 million muslims are prepared to follow the religion of islam unto death.. And that is a whole lot of terrorists that can do a whole lot of damage..

Funnily enough the muslims i've spoken to do not believe that the ones committing terror attacks are true muslims. I guess the ones committing the attacks would say the same thing about those who don't.
My concern is about how we treat these people because of a very tiny minority.

 

[Adstar]

Funnily enough the muslims i've spoken to do not believe that the ones committing terror attacks are true muslims. I guess the ones committing the attacks would say the same thing about those who don't.
My concern is about how we treat these people because of a very tiny minority.

If you investigate the quran you will find that ISIS is closer to true islam then your islamic friends.. Indeed according to the quran muslims should never be friends with Christians or Jews.. So right there if you have muslim friends and they are genuine friends then you can know they are not quran following muslims..

Tiny minority.. Well the numbers of members of the Nazi party of Germany where never a majority of Germans.. But in the end that minority lead the German people to a war that ended in great destruction for the German people and millions of other people..

An aggressive and determined minority can lead the majority into a disaster..

 

[breno785au]

If you investigate the quran you will find that ISIS is closer to true islam then your islamic friends.. Indeed according to the quran muslims should never be friends with Christians or Jews.. So right there if you have muslim friends and they are genuine friends then you can know they are not quran following muslims..

Tiny minority.. Well the numbers of members of the Nazi party of Germany where never a majority of Germans.. But in the end that minority lead the German people to a war that ended in great destruction for the German people and millions of other people..

An aggressive and determined minority can lead the majority into a disaster..

What the quaran says about not befriending Jews and Christians is a common misconception, it says the opposite about Christians.
You may be right about the minority/majority issue but in our day to day walk we are not to hold disdain against any people, again this is my concern amongst certain peoples views of Muslims.

 

[JosephsDreams]

Could be that or your just being spoon fed media fear frenzy, hindus attack christians, non believers attack non believers, "christians" have slaughtered people in their native lands for colonisation, christians come on forums and attack other christians.
I will not allow this fear frenzy to infiltrate my mind, i have had personal relationships with muslims who were normal people like anyone else, how about yourself? Does your fear affect your love for them if you have personal encounters with them?

I have had relationships with Muslims too. I have traveled to the middle east a couple of times, and was treated very well. All pre 9/11, if that means anything...
That doesn't change the fact that when push comes to shove, many of them would either do nothing, or even actively participate in my death if the situation were convert or die.

 

[Adstar]

What the quaran says about not befriending Jews and Christians is a common misconception, it says the opposite about Christians.
You may be right about the minority/majority issue but in our day to day walk we are not to hold disdain against any people, again this is my concern amongst certain peoples views of Muslims.

No doubt that is what you have been told by your muslims friends.. But your muslims friends.. I am sure if i had some mormon friends they would tell me that Jesus and lucifer are spirit brothers and they would genuinely believe it.. But mormonism is not true Christianity so what ever my mormon friend said would not become suddenly true simply because they where really nice people and my friends..

 

[JosephsDreams]

The Quaran says so many contradicting things on so many subjects that I would not be surprised if it said in one place it is okay to befriend kafirs, and in another not to.
It is a book designed by satan to confuse and destroy.

 

[trofimus]

The Quaran says so many contradicting things on so many subjects that I would not be surprised if it said in one place it is okay to befriend kafirs, and in another not to.
It is a book designed by satan to confuse and destroy.

That book was written during the life of Mohammed.

When he was a beginner and weak, he taught to make friends with Christians and Jews.

Later, when he got stronger armies, he taught to kill them or subdue them, if they will listen to islamic law and pay the muslims.

So for a muslim to radicalize, its sufficient to just continue reading.

 

[trofimus]

That book was written during the life of Mohammed.

When he was a beginner and weak, he taught to make friends with Christians and Jews.

Later, when he got stronger armies, he taught to kill them or subdue them, if they will listen to islamic law and pay the muslims.

So for a muslim to radicalize, its sufficient to just continue reading.

Muslims are also allowed to lie to unbelievers to gain their trust before the strike.

 

[jsr1221]

If you investigate the quran you will find that ISIS is closer to true islam then your islamic friends.. Indeed according to the quran muslims should never be friends with Christians or Jews.. So right there if you have muslim friends and they are genuine friends then you can know they are not quran following muslims..

Tiny minority.. Well the numbers of members of the Nazi party of Germany where never a majority of Germans.. But in the end that minority lead the German people to a war that ended in great destruction for the German people and millions of other people..

An aggressive and determined minority can lead the majority into a disaster..

I agree with you that those in ISIS follow the Quran closer than "regular" muslims (wasn't sure what else to call them). However, there are also Christians that don't follow the Bible exclusively. There are also Christians that follow the Bible "too exclusively", meaning they live by or try to live by themes represented in the Old Testament along with the New Testament. It's like that with all religions. Does it make it right? Not really. Just an observation.

 

[Agricola]

Could be that or your just being spoon fed media fear frenzy, hindus attack christians, non believers attack non believers, "christians" have slaughtered people in their native lands for colonisation, christians come on forums and attack other christians.
I will not allow this fear frenzy to infiltrate my mind, i have had personal relationships with muslims who were normal people like anyone else, how about yourself? Does your fear affect your love for them if you have personal encounters with them?

I am not falling for spoon fed media . I do not fear Muslims. I hate Islam evil Satanic religion led and started by Satan. A lot of Muslims you will encounter are just normal decent loving people, but that does not mean Islam is good, quite the opposite.

Islams goal is to rule the world. It has laws and codes to deal with non-muslims. Visit many Islamic countries and you will see it in action. If someone converts to Christianity in a villiage in Pakistan and people find out and kill that person, then nothing will happen. If a woman embarrases her family and they kill her, nothing will happen. Many muslims in the UK go missing each year, sent back to thier families at home, where they are killed and no one speaks of them again.

We did terrible things in war, WWII nuked Japan for example and fire bombing of Dresden. the civilian population of the allied nations were not impressed and shocked and sad, there was no rejoicing over this. Same is for Islam. Islam has its soldiers and an ambition to take control, we are seeing a war, Muslims killing priests is just the start.

This is not a random act of violence and just as in WWII most Muslims will be shocked and tut disapproval and distance themselves from it, but of course they will welcome the end result of Islamic gains in power and law making.

 

[tanakh]

Muslims not only read the Koran but also study the Hadith which contains the supposed sayings of Mohammed and some of his cronies. You also have Sharia law. None of these writings are friendly to Christians or Jews. It is true that most Muslims are peaceful when in a minority but when they become a majority anywhere its another story. Islam is just about the most intolerent religion on earth. Its about time the western nations woke up from their liberal stupor and stopped sucking up to every bit of left wing PC rubbish thats being force fed to them by Politicians and religious leaders who have their own agenda.

 

[Adstar]

I agree with you that those in ISIS follow the Quran closer than "regular" muslims (wasn't sure what else to call them). However, there are also Christians that don't follow the Bible exclusively. There are also Christians that follow the Bible "too exclusively", meaning they live by or try to live by themes represented in the Old Testament along with the New Testament. It's like that with all religions. Does it make it right? Not really. Just an observation.

I agree.. But this topic is really about islam and muslims.. Yes the number of Christians who are true Christians is very small.. But Christianity is based on the Bible not on what this or that nice Christians says,, just as islam is based on the quran not what some nice muslims says.. It's just that many people make the mistake of assessing a religion based of their personal experiences with people who claim to be believers in that religion or what they have heard some TV preacher or imam said.. People really need to read the scriptures themselves and do some personal investigation..


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