Those police officers didn't know their own department procedures and acted like thugs. I'm sure that this was an exception of the conduct of police officers in general and not an indictment against law enforcement. I do agree however that this country is indeed trending towards becoming a police state. Hopefully, this can be turned around and to trust the citizens to act responsibly and do the right thing.
Donald Trump vs. Sports
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I think bringing it into the 'open arena' is a good thing
I am always interested in this 'we have the right to protest' but YOU don't have the right to say anything about it
don't ask questions and specifically those that engage the gray matter
I'm not saying you are doing this; I am presenting a different viewpoint
K
oh now come on
there you go making it real for the folks
NFL would have to really get real if the knee dropping referred to siding with battered women, rather then using some of the NFL knees ON the women they are battering. apparently even video footage is not enough for a stake in the posturing
there you go making it real for the folks
NFL would have to really get real if the knee dropping referred to siding with battered women, rather then using some of the NFL knees ON the women they are battering. apparently even video footage is not enough for a stake in the posturing
I call them as I see them. I see you do also. lol
Voicing one's opinion or protesting in any fashion is never convenient or appreciated because people feel somehow inconvenienced. "not the right time or place". There will never be an appropriate venue or time when the standard is based on the premise of time and place.
One person raised a valid point if Politics doesn't belong in sports then why do we inject it by singing the national anthem, having veterans appreciation day, moral clauses in contracts or Politicians interfering in the business of the game?
Hurt I am not as NONE of the stereotypes posted here describe me or anyone connected to me. Neither does it describe anyone that I know. Not all black neighborhoods are full of crime and all things evil under the sun. Some of you act like we are the worst thing walking.
My father and uncles fought in a war for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness only to be considered the "N" word when the came back home and not enjoy the very freedoms that they fought for. Where was their respect? I have family in the military now. None of whom have ever been arrested or in trouble.
I took a sick friend to the Emergency Room and the lady behind the desk said, "May I have your STATE CARD?" She just assumed that she was receiving state assistance of which she is not.
There are bad people who make poor choices and decisions in all races but some of you seem to get great joy in pointing out what black people do and how you all are so superior since I have been coming here. For every poll posted I can find a poll saying the opposite.
I can refute several comments in this thread but there is no need, it will fall on deaf ears. Patriotism isn't about making everyone stand and salute the flag, it's about making this a country where everyone WANTS TO.
Someone repped me a few times. Thank you whoever you are.
At least Willie was honest enough to admit where he stands and from many of the comments there are a few more in here whether you choose to admit it or not who are prejudiced. I'm so glad that my experiences with people haven't hardened my heart towards any paticular race where I look down on them.
This place has gotten worse with it's comments and the gang mentality. You can have it.
One person raised a valid point if Politics doesn't belong in sports then why do we inject it by singing the national anthem, having veterans appreciation day, moral clauses in contracts or Politicians interfering in the business of the game?
Hurt I am not as NONE of the stereotypes posted here describe me or anyone connected to me. Neither does it describe anyone that I know. Not all black neighborhoods are full of crime and all things evil under the sun. Some of you act like we are the worst thing walking.
My father and uncles fought in a war for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness only to be considered the "N" word when the came back home and not enjoy the very freedoms that they fought for. Where was their respect? I have family in the military now. None of whom have ever been arrested or in trouble.
I took a sick friend to the Emergency Room and the lady behind the desk said, "May I have your STATE CARD?" She just assumed that she was receiving state assistance of which she is not.
There are bad people who make poor choices and decisions in all races but some of you seem to get great joy in pointing out what black people do and how you all are so superior since I have been coming here. For every poll posted I can find a poll saying the opposite.
I can refute several comments in this thread but there is no need, it will fall on deaf ears. Patriotism isn't about making everyone stand and salute the flag, it's about making this a country where everyone WANTS TO.
Someone repped me a few times. Thank you whoever you are.
At least Willie was honest enough to admit where he stands and from many of the comments there are a few more in here whether you choose to admit it or not who are prejudiced. I'm so glad that my experiences with people haven't hardened my heart towards any paticular race where I look down on them.
This place has gotten worse with it's comments and the gang mentality. You can have it.
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Does not your friend's experience at the hospital tell you anything? Do you think that nurse automatically asked for a State Card just as a prejudiced whim out of the blue? Of course not. Out of all the Blacks she checks in, it is probably a highly unlikely rarity that one does NOT have a State Card. Think about what that says. Stereotypes are not just invented out of Hollywood. They come from the majority experience that most people have lived through, and have, thus, come to expect as just a matter of course.
K
From Mike Rowe,
The question, asked by a fan named Robert, was, “I know you avoid politics, (thanks!) and I remember your rant on the Colt’s leaving Baltimore. (As a former Brown’s fan, I feel your pain.) But I gotta ask – what’s happening to professional football, and what do you make of Trump’s comments about those who refuse to stand during the national anthem?”
Rowe’s response started off philosophically. “In democracies, we the people get the government we deserve,” he wrote. “We also get the celebrities we deserve, the artists we deserve, and the athletes we deserve. Because ultimately, we the people get to decide who and what gets our attention, and who and what does not.”
In my view, this controversy really isn’t about patriotism, social justice, racial inequality, or free speech. It’s not even about the flag or the national anthem. It’s really only about one thing – what we will tolerate, and what we won’t.”
He said he was disappointed that the President made the point that owners can fire the players for kneeling.
He then took aim at the NFL Commissioner and the players who supported the kneeling. He said that their statements were “perfectly reasonable, perfectly understandable, and perfectly in keeping with their first amendment rights” but were “perfectly arrogant.” That they “presuppose that millions of fans will continue to watch them play a game – no matter what.”
Perhaps they are right, he said, because history has shown that fans will let them get away with a lot. And it’s the fans who have suffered through all their nonsense in the past, while both the owners and the players are sufficiently covered with money or unions.
But, it’s really up to us, he said. What will we be willing to tolerate? And will it make us shut it off?
“But here’s the thing, Rob,” Rowe concludes. “The fans of professional football are not powerless – we’re just not yet offended enough to turn the channel. Should that ever change in a meaningful way – if for instance, a percentage of football fans relative to those players who chose to kneel during today’s games, chose to watch something else next Sunday – I can assure you…the matter would be resolved by Monday. Mike”
The question, asked by a fan named Robert, was, “I know you avoid politics, (thanks!) and I remember your rant on the Colt’s leaving Baltimore. (As a former Brown’s fan, I feel your pain.) But I gotta ask – what’s happening to professional football, and what do you make of Trump’s comments about those who refuse to stand during the national anthem?”
Rowe’s response started off philosophically. “In democracies, we the people get the government we deserve,” he wrote. “We also get the celebrities we deserve, the artists we deserve, and the athletes we deserve. Because ultimately, we the people get to decide who and what gets our attention, and who and what does not.”
In my view, this controversy really isn’t about patriotism, social justice, racial inequality, or free speech. It’s not even about the flag or the national anthem. It’s really only about one thing – what we will tolerate, and what we won’t.”
He said he was disappointed that the President made the point that owners can fire the players for kneeling.
“Not because I dispute the owners right to do so, and not because I would grieve the dismissal of anyone who chooses to disrespect our flag. I was disappointed because the President’s comments presuppose that the owners are in charge of the game. They’re not. We are. We decide what to watch, and that decision – far more than any other consideration – will determine the what the owners choose to do. And that in turn will affect what the players choose to do.”
Continuing, Rowe wrote, “As the leader of the country, the President had an opportunity to remind us that The NFL, the networks who broadcast their games, and all of the players – standers and kneelers alike – work for us. He might have also used the occasion to remind us that he too, serves at our pleasure.”
Continuing, Rowe wrote, “As the leader of the country, the President had an opportunity to remind us that The NFL, the networks who broadcast their games, and all of the players – standers and kneelers alike – work for us. He might have also used the occasion to remind us that he too, serves at our pleasure.”
He then took aim at the NFL Commissioner and the players who supported the kneeling. He said that their statements were “perfectly reasonable, perfectly understandable, and perfectly in keeping with their first amendment rights” but were “perfectly arrogant.” That they “presuppose that millions of fans will continue to watch them play a game – no matter what.”
Perhaps they are right, he said, because history has shown that fans will let them get away with a lot. And it’s the fans who have suffered through all their nonsense in the past, while both the owners and the players are sufficiently covered with money or unions.
But, it’s really up to us, he said. What will we be willing to tolerate? And will it make us shut it off?
“But here’s the thing, Rob,” Rowe concludes. “The fans of professional football are not powerless – we’re just not yet offended enough to turn the channel. Should that ever change in a meaningful way – if for instance, a percentage of football fans relative to those players who chose to kneel during today’s games, chose to watch something else next Sunday – I can assure you…the matter would be resolved by Monday. Mike”
No it does not. She should have just done her job and ask for an insurance card period. White people have stereotypes also but I don't assume it about one just because they are white.
I'm done here, you can continue in your prejudice Willie but I am not going to engage in this conversation with you because it will only go down hill from here.
I'm done here, you can continue in your prejudice Willie but I am not going to engage in this conversation with you because it will only go down hill from here.
K
When someone says the President injected politics into sports just be reminded of the picture above. Colin Kaepernicks socks,pigs with police hats on. Don't give me this jazz about they are "protesting" for the oppressed. As I said in my post before.There are a lot of things the NFL ought to take a knee for. This is about resisting Trump,nothing more. Keep it up,the country agrees with Trump it seems, the Steelers player that stood for the anthem, that jersey is selling out online.
G
I'm reading your comments in this thread, and I agree with you. The players are exercising their right to express their opinions and this is about as peaceful a protest one could possibly witness. This is not a totalitarian government, and no one should be forced to stand for the anthem or pledge. This is what our soldiers died for, the right to NOT stand, the right NOT to be compelled. Thank you for your articulate posts.
When someone says the President injected politics into sports just be reminded of the picture above. Colin Kaepernicks socks,pigs with police hats on. Don't give me this jazz about they are "protesting" for the oppressed. As I said in my post before.There are a lot of things the NFL ought to take a knee for. This is about resisting Trump,nothing more. Keep it up,the country agrees with Trump it seems, the Steelers player that stood for the anthem, that jersey is selling out online.
G
I agree with you to an extent, BUT the national anthem is played at ball games. The players feel that they can not in good conscience stand for the anthem because they don't like what is happening regarding police brutality against black men. If the players went on the field, no anthem played, and they used it as a platform to protest- then I would agree with you. The playing of the anthem makes this type of entertainment political.
Let's say you are a Russian in Communist Russia playing hockey. You are not a communist and against the regime, so you refuse to stand during the anthem before the hockey game. It would be seen as heroic- this is the same thing.
Let's say you are a Russian in Communist Russia playing hockey. You are not a communist and against the regime, so you refuse to stand during the anthem before the hockey game. It would be seen as heroic- this is the same thing.
G
I repped you once. I hope you do not leave due to some posters' prejudiced comments. Not all white people ignore the fact that police brutality is real, and really a problem. There are many people who think the players are well within their rights. You have posted some very eloquent statements. I think some of us should remember that in Christ, we are neither male nor female, Jew nor Gentile, bond nor free. We are brothers and sisters regardless of race. I am sorry that people have forgotten that, here. The Body of Christ is all races.