3 Step Plan LGBT Mafia To Destroy Christian Church

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The only love I've ever observed from homosexuals is how much they would love to either imprison or eliminate me... lol.

They certainly are a selfish, intolerant, immoral, demographic that doesn't give two cents about God's holiness, God's people, or the destruction they wreak on children through their immoral extremist agenda as they seek to deface the godly Imago Dei.

That said, we show them agape love anyways which means not sacrificing holiness on the altar of their perversion for truth and discipline too are legitimate applications of genuine agape love just as sacrifice, assistance, etc... are.

Compromising God's truth, God's holiness, etc... only show that you are either deceived, ignorant, or do not love God Himself properly for who He is because both are irrefutable attributes of God's own essence.

"Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him." -1 John 2:15.

Do you love the millions of little boys and girls that are being subjected to and deceived by the homosexual agenda many of whom will embark on a life characterized by sweeping perversity that will result in very negative personality changes, spiritual blindness, rob them of what they otherwise would have been (which robs society too of that) and ultimately result in many missing out on heaven as they die unrepentantly in their sin even costing some their very lives in this present life (AIDS, high risk behaviors, etc...).

Jesus meant every word in Matthew 18:6, "but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."

To love the homosexual is to tell them the truth straight and for those that reject it work to prevent them from destroying the young lives they seek to pervert because they have shown that, like the devil, they naturally target those children for deception. God will deal with the unrepentant homosexual at the Great White Throne Judgment but we have a responsibility to protect those children and teach them that God's morality and holiness is a very good thing that will act as a soteriological buffer protecting their mind, body, soul, and spirit as they go through life on their way to their glorious final destination as far as we are able.

So don't get it twisted.


Maybe it's simply because the tenor of these discussions bothers me. You see, every time one of these threads pops us, no one in the anti-gay camp seems to be talking about people, they are talking about gays and homos. You seem to forget that you're discussing a beloved creation, of a mother's child, of a breathing thinking being. Instead, those who teach anti-gay is love, seem to disregard the people they are talking about. I doubt you do realize that is how you all come off, but you do.
 
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Great job we're doing with protecting the children. We have the same divorce rates as the rest of the world. We have the same amount of abusive fathers and mothers, physically, mentally, and sexually. So, how are we protecting children from the gay menace? The truth is that you see an enemy, I see humans, fallen humans. I see the.blind leading the blind, and recognize that there is no fixing it. So, I strive to do the right thing at all times and to Hell with the outcome. There is no greater good, there is no us and them. That's Satan's way. Sure, we cry out against injustice, but you don't start looking at people as something lesser. Is homosexuality a perversion of human sexuality? Yes. Are homosexuals perverts? No. You get angry and scream when someone who has a same-sex attraction is Christian, demanding that they not call themselves gay, but same-sex attracted. And don't say you don't. The majority of people getting all hyped up over conspiracies have said that to me on these forums and on the chat rooms. But when you actually encounter these people or talk about them, they are "the gays" or "homos". Those are words of hate. The same as the N word and the F word. They categorize people, making them something less than people. That's what is offensive. And yet you all continue. Have fun with your little conspiracies while others actually struggle and seek to serve God. This thread isn't helpful. It's nothing more than a conspiracy in the News forum. And when we finally say, Hey move this thread. It's in the wrong area, we're pro gay. Yeah...nice try.
 
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Speak for yourself for I have never been divorced nor ever been an abusive father. Maybe you have, I don't know. In my observations, genuine Christians who walk the talk (not to be confused with those who only profess) do the best job of parenting carefully protecting their children and modeling the Christian worldview to them while teaching them Biblical principles.

But then I'm not so ignorant as to lump the two together and falsely condemn the wheat with the chaff as you just did (something God never does). But it's actually worse because you use the chaff as a red herring to justify not protecting little children from a blatant ungodly sexually immoral agenda! How ironic that you condemn moral people together with the immoral while simultaneously reserving all of your love and concern for those engaging in great immorality and who as workers of iniquity seek to deceive and pervert even the children. And you do that knowing what Jesus stated in Matthew 18:6.

Obviously this isn't algebra class where two negatives equal a positive: it's real life where two wrongs are worse than just one.

Your false assertion that people who engage in sexual perversity aren't perverts is ignorant and logically false. Take a logic class and learn about correlation. In this example, it's a 1:1 correlation. Another example, a person who murders is a murderer. Starting to see how this works Einstein?

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God." -1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

^ The apostles had no problem with correlation and identity. You do, but they didn't.

Pull the log out of your own eye friend and then maybe your obsession with the speck in others will have an ounce of weight behind it.


Great job we're doing with protecting the children. We have the same divorce rates as the rest of the world. We have the same amount of abusive fathers and mothers, physically, mentally, and sexually. So, how are we protecting children from the gay menace? The truth is that you see an enemy, I see humans, fallen humans. I see the.blind leading the blind, and recognize that there is no fixing it. So, I strive to do the right thing at all times and to Hell with the outcome. There is no greater good, there is no us and them. That's Satan's way. Sure, we cry out against injustice, but you don't start looking at people as something lesser. Is homosexuality a perversion of human sexuality? Yes. Are homosexuals perverts? No. You get angry and scream when someone who has a same-sex attraction is Christian, demanding that they not call themselves gay, but same-sex attracted. And don't say you don't. The majority of people getting all hyped up over conspiracies have said that to me on these forums and on the chat rooms. But when you actually encounter these people or talk about them, they are "the gays" or "homos". Those are words of hate. The same as the N word and the F word. They categorize people, making them something less than people. That's what is offensive. And yet you all continue. Have fun with your little conspiracies while others actually struggle and seek to serve God. This thread isn't helpful. It's nothing more than a conspiracy in the News forum. And when we finally say, Hey move this thread. It's in the wrong area, we're pro gay. Yeah...nice try.
 

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Great job we're doing with protecting the children. We have the same divorce rates as the rest of the world. We have the same amount of abusive fathers and mothers, physically, mentally, and sexually. So, how are we protecting children from the gay menace? The truth is that you see an enemy, I see humans, fallen humans. I see the.blind leading the blind, and recognize that there is no fixing it. So, I strive to do the right thing at all times and to Hell with the outcome. There is no greater good, there is no us and them. That's Satan's way. Sure, we cry out against injustice, but you don't start looking at people as something lesser. Is homosexuality a perversion of human sexuality? Yes. Are homosexuals perverts? No. You get angry and scream when someone who has a same-sex attraction is Christian, demanding that they not call themselves gay, but same-sex attracted. And don't say you don't. The majority of people getting all hyped up over conspiracies have said that to me on these forums and on the chat rooms. But when you actually encounter these people or talk about them, they are "the gays" or "homos". Those are words of hate. The same as the N word and the F word. They categorize people, making them something less than people. That's what is offensive. And yet you all continue. Have fun with your little conspiracies while others actually struggle and seek to serve God. This thread isn't helpful. It's nothing more than a conspiracy in the News forum. And when we finally say, Hey move this thread. It's in the wrong area, we're pro gay. Yeah...nice try.

You, and others would like to put your head in the sand and claim this all just a conspiracy theory. meanwhile the assault on Christians marches on. I would ask that you disavow your defense of unrepentant homosexuals, and their anti-Christian agenda since your judgement is tainted by your same-sex desires.

Canadian Gays Seek To Bar Devout Christians From Practicing Law… | Weasel Zippers
 
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You believe Christians are pure and innocent. I don't. I believe we are human beings under the grace of God. We still sin, and we still mess up, and some of our stumbling ruins lives. A recovering alcoholic can still go on a bender and kill someone while drunk. And the same recovering alcoholic can be a Christian the whole time. I see bad Christians and good Christians a.d false Christians. For some, the bad ones don't exist, they do.
 
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Check this out. This is wicked. I call it child abuse. These deceived liberal "parents" in California decided their five year old toddler was trapped in the wrong body and so have turned the toddler into a transsexual. Of course, other deceived liberals lined up to support them. The poor child never had a chance to adapt and be what God created them to be.

This is what passes for normal amongst liberals. They don't even wait for the child to enter the first grade where they use the public education system to deceive the child and let their deception run its course. They just transform the toddler into a bull dyke transsexual before they even start the first grade.

California parents share story of 5-year-old's transition from girl to boy - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com



You, and others would like to put your head in the sand and claim this all just a conspiracy theory. meanwhile the assault on Christians marches on. I would ask that you disavow your defense of unrepentant homosexuals, and their anti-Christian agenda since your judgement is tainted by your same-sex desires.

Canadian Gays Seek To Bar Devout Christians From Practicing Law… | Weasel Zippers
 
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I guess I'm being harsh. It's knee-jerk. I have seen too many Christians kick their children out because they came out. I was lucky. My parents loved me, told me that the life I was leading was wrong, but they were there every step, every break up, and every break down. It took years until one night, Jesus opened my eyes to a truth I never conceived. That I was cheating on Him. That I was whoring myself out, all the while seeking the husband and lover I could never have outside of Christ. That was the day I became celibate. I was a whore. I know that, but I didn't know it then.

I've often found that many think that homosexuals know they are wrong or have a perverse sexuality. They don't, I didn't. It took a literal communication through scripture to make me realize it. It took Jesus's intervention for me even to realize my falsehood. It takes love and prayer over a long time to help those who don't know they need help. Claiming a conspiracy and a malicious intent is what always angers me. I had no conspiracy or malicious intent. I.was wrong and didn't know it. That's the truth about homosexuals. They are victims, stop treating them like enemies.
 
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Check this out. This is wicked. I call it child abuse. These deceived liberal "parents" in California decided their five year old toddler was trapped in the wrong body and so have turned the toddler into a transsexual. Of course, other deceived liberals lined up to support them. The poor child never had a chance to adapt and be what God created them to be.

This is what passes for normal amongst liberals. They don't even wait for the child to enter the first grade where they use the public education system to deceive the child and let their deception run its course. They just transform the toddler into a bull dyke transsexual before they even start the first grade.

California parents share story of 5-year-old's transition from girl to boy - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com
Bull dyke is a word of hate, equal to the N word and faggot. It's offensive.
 
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The Bible declares that the lost are both victims of the devil and enemies of God until such time as their conversion and new birth per verses like Romans 5:10 which states, "For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."

The agape love we have for them is a reflection of God's agape love for them (read the rest of Romans 5) but that doesn't translate to us ceasing to be salt and light in the world as God's emissaries in this environment of obvious and real spiritual warfare. That's never going to happen. If I'm in solitary confinement, I can still pray... lol.

We have a God ordained responsibility to work to correct these unrepentant workers of iniquity (Matthew 7:23) and seek to limit the damage they wreak on our government, society, and especially the lives of defenseless children as we are able and always in a moral manner ourselves (the ends do not justify the means in God's kingdom).

Now you claim that you were not seeking to further the aims of the homosexual agenda but when you walked into that voting booth and voted for candidates who worked to further it, you show that you certainly did. And that's just one example.

But there are aspects of this post of yours that I very much like. There are obvious Christian character attributes being communicated here. The godly humility, the godly repentance, and the godly concern (and I will agree with you that certainly not all tough love is good and sometimes even well meaning people go too far with it).

It appears you now possess the promise in verse 9; "Much more then, having now been justified by His [Jesus] blood [atoning sacrifice], we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him" and verse 11; "And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation."

From one celibate to another: Hallelujah!

Yet understand that you are still learning, maturing, etc... and are doing so in an environment of real time spiritual warfare occurring in spiritual extra dimensionality that ultimately manifests in the words, behavior, choices, beliefs, etc... that real people make in real time right here on planet earth that ultimately makes people more like Christ in love AND holiness or less like Christ in love AND holiness.

As genuine children of light (t1 Thessalonians 5:5), we resist the activities of those who have been deceived by the devil to do his will in deceiving and harming others and though you plainly have heard our great disgust for the sweeping deception and iniquity we address; our motives for godly change, reform, and conversion are ultimately rooted in God's agape love.

I know this is difficult for you but understand that it's because of God's great love AND holiness that we ourselves act this way with the honest admission that we ourselves know we were once in the same predicament as lost sinners needing God's salvation, sanctification, and the godly renewing of our minds and admitting that we still aren't perfected. But we certainly are aligned correctly now and walking that narrow path. Make no mistake about that.

We know people who choose to engage in homosexual acts and foment their immoral extremist agenda on our society are ultimately both deceived victims and perpetrators themselves (to the degree each as an individual actually is) and we act as salt and light strongly resisting their efforts while simultaneously loving them enough to keep the door Christ opened for them while paying whatever price we need to pay in our own lives in the process just as Christ Himself did. Again, I liked things about this post of yours that's keeping it real as they say. Peace.


I guess I'm being harsh. It's knee-jerk. I have seen too many Christians kick their children out because they came out. I was lucky. My parents loved me, told me that the life I was leading was wrong, but they were there every step, every break up, and every break down. It took years until one night, Jesus opened my eyes to a truth I never conceived. That I was cheating on Him. That I was whoring myself out, all the while seeking the husband and lover I could never have outside of Christ. That was the day I became celibate. I was a whore. I know that, but I didn't know it then.

I've often found that many think that homosexuals know they are wrong or have a perverse sexuality. They don't, I didn't. It took a literal communication through scripture to make me realize it. It took Jesus's intervention for me even to realize my falsehood. It takes love and prayer over a long time to help those who don't know they need help. Claiming a conspiracy and a malicious intent is what always angers me. I had no conspiracy or malicious intent. I.was wrong and didn't know it. That's the truth about homosexuals. They are victims, stop treating them like enemies.
 
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Is this fictional LGBT Mafia, an off-shoot of the real Mafia?

Do you have to be Italian to be in it?

Is there a Lesbian Yakuza, which is like attractive Japanese female Ninjas? Who also happen to be vampires??
I think I've seen a film about that once.
 
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Maybe it's simply because the tenor of these discussions bothers me. You see, every time one of these threads pops us, no one in the anti-gay camp seems to be talking about people, they are talking about gays and homos. You seem to forget that you're discussing a beloved creation, of a mother's child, of a breathing thinking being. Instead, those who teach anti-gay is love, seem to disregard the people they are talking about. I doubt you do realize that is how you all come off, but you do.
You will have to show me where I have ever disrespected any homosexual.

I have never called them homo's.

I have consistantly clarified all of my positions when asked and I have always pointed to love as my motivation.

I am against condoning sin. If my saying homosexuality is a sin offends people, then I have to question their salvation.

This is a christian forum. Christian principles should always be defended. If I was in a homosexual forum I would say exactly the same things.

Copy and paste all the offensive things I have said about homosexuals and then we can discuss it. Since you have not I can only presume name calling is your defense and will consider that in future communications
 
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You will have to show me where I have ever disrespected any homosexual.

I have never called them homo's.

I have consistantly clarified all of my positions when asked and I have always pointed to love as my motivation.

I am against condoning sin. If my saying homosexuality is a sin offends people, then I have to question their salvation.

This is a christian forum. Christian principles should always be defended. If I was in a homosexual forum I would say exactly the same things.

Copy and paste all the offensive things I have said about homosexuals and then we can discuss it. Since you have not I can only presume name calling is your defense and will consider that in future communications
Sorry, the yous used were a general you. I didn't mean it directly at you specifically. I was a bit angry and when that happens I tend not to stay fully on point or continually address the same person.
 
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David_1, the "gay mafia" is an anachronism from the 80's. It's best to call them what the really are: antichrist homosexual extremists.

A feature of their behavior is that in the name of "tolerance," differing views other than their own will not tolerated under any circumstances. Anyone who fails to meet the expectations of the homosexual extremists will be overtly attacked with the ultimate goal of elimination.

Another is that homosexual "civil rights" are to be treated as legally greater than Christian religious liberty. As a result of exercising their faith, Christians are to be punished legally and financially whenever they are found to be "intolerant" and also overtly attacked. Christians will be name called for maintaining their convictions and their worldview marginalized, minimized, and mocked whenever they do not acquiesce to the sexual immorality of homosexuals.

Specific examples are appalling. For example, parents who seek to remove their children from public school homosexual and transgender indoctrination are facing legal prosecution in your country and it's been happening since 2009 there: Parents face prosecution over school gay week protest - Telegraph

In Holland, it's a crime to have your dog off a leash in the park but sodomy is perfectly legal right out in the open on a hiking trail if you like: Dutch to legalise gay sex in public park - Telegraph

Back to your country, preaching the whole Bible can get you seven years in prison. VICARS could face up to seven years in jail for simply preaching from the Bible: Jail threat to vicars under gay hate law | UK | News | Daily Express but then teachers are suspended for failing to agree that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality.

In my state, homosexual indoctrination of little children is the law now and if you try to home school them to avoid it the government can take your children away from you under various circumstances. After all, they must be exposed to homosexual acts from the first grade or you lose your child because that's intolerant of you but not intolerant (not to mention immoral and insane) of them right (hint: any answer other than wrong is incorrect).

Of course there are tens of thousands of examples and I'm just randomly picking them as I go. But you keep beating that drum David surrounded by a world that soundly refutes you as it provides a case example of what clinical denial looks like.
 

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I guess I'm being harsh. It's knee-jerk. I have seen too many Christians kick their children out because they came out. I was lucky. My parents loved me, told me that the life I was leading was wrong, but they were there every step, every break up, and every break down. It took years until one night, Jesus opened my eyes to a truth I never conceived. That I was cheating on Him. That I was whoring myself out, all the while seeking the husband and lover I could never have outside of Christ. That was the day I became celibate. I was a whore. I know that, but I didn't know it then.

I've often found that many think that homosexuals know they are wrong or have a perverse sexuality. They don't, I didn't. It took a literal communication through scripture to make me realize it. It took Jesus's intervention for me even to realize my falsehood. It takes love and prayer over a long time to help those who don't know they need help. Claiming a conspiracy and a malicious intent is what always angers me. I had no conspiracy or malicious intent. I.was wrong and didn't know it. That's the truth about homosexuals. They are victims, stop treating them like enemies.

People may sear their consciences from the guilt of sin over time, but God makes clear you at one time, by yourself, knew what you were doing was wrong and sinful:
ROMANS 2:14-16
[SUP]14 [/SUP](Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. [SUP]15 [/SUP]They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) [SUP]16 [/SUP]This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
 
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I was very promiscuous in my pre-saved days. That is just as bad as homosexuality...

but I don't defend promiscuity. I think its wrong. I will call it a sin...even though I did it. I would not want it promoted in any form, wether its aimed at adults or children. Wether its in movies or in the news.

Do ya see the difference ThomasColin?

Yes christians mess up and sin. That does not make them hypocrits or unable to say what sin is. It makes them human and in need of God. If we have to be sinless to say what sin is, then we would be silent.

Do not let the world define you as a christian. They have no idea what one is
 
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Fornicators haven't banded together and formed a powerful socio-political fornication lobby backed fully by the liberal media and Democrat party and dedicated themselves to your severe oppression and severe persecution (with an eye toward eliminating you) seeking to deny your human rights as people and parents and rob you of your religious liberty should you maintain that fornication is not God's design for humanity while simultaneously attempting to pervert your children and indoctrinate them that heterosexual marriage is bad. That's the point.

I was very promiscuous in my pre-saved days. That is just as bad as homosexuality...

but I don't defend promiscuity. I think its wrong. I will call it a sin...even though I did it. I would not want it promoted in any form, wether its aimed at adults or children. Wether its in movies or in the news.

Do ya see the difference ThomasColin?

Yes christians mess up and sin. That does not make them hypocrits or unable to say what sin is. It makes them human and in need of God. If we have to be sinless to say what sin is, then we would be silent.

Do not let the world define you as a christian. They have no idea what one is
 
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Fornicators haven't banded together and formed a powerful socio-political fornication lobby backed fully by the liberal media and Democrat party and dedicated themselves to your severe oppression and severe persecution (with an eye toward eliminating you) seeking to deny your human rights as people and parents and rob you of your religious liberty should you maintain that fornication is not God's design for humanity while simultaneously attempting to pervert your children and indoctrinate them that heterosexual marriage is bad. That's the point.
Not sure fornicators need a lobby. Its not difficult to convince people today to indulge in it. The media and hollywood love fornication and promote it on every tv show.

They won that battle. I can remember if you lived with someone outside of marriage it was a societal taboo. Not so anymore.
 
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You're missing the point. If homosexuals restricted their activities to having homosexual sex with each other...


Not sure fornicators need a lobby. Its not difficult to convince people today to indulge in it. The media and hollywood love fornication and promote it on every tv show.

They won that battle. I can remember if you lived with someone outside of marriage it was a societal taboo. Not so anymore.