Lord and savior ... barrack obama??

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Blain

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There are many Chrisitans who vote democratic as well. There are many republicans who are not Chrisitans. It's all mixed, all sides.
Yes I don't get too excited over claims made on who is the antichrist either. But , Obama fits more Scripture than almost anyone else in my lifetime.(58 yrs). The other owuld be the king of Spain in 1980 something.
If Obama was born in Hawaii he is not the antichrist.The gov't of Africa says he was born there in Africa. Does Scripture refer to the antichrist's literal birthplace, or spiritual birthplace? As in "to be born again". Obama's Hawaiin grandmother, I believe was a Christian. His father in Africa was Muslim.
Obama would be Chrislam, if not Muslim.( his supposed Christian church in Chicago collected donations for Hamas, & his preacher cursed damnation to America from the pulpit. Obama denounced his preacher friend of 20 yrs to get the presidency)
Newsweek cover also has picture of Obama on cover, with the word "Saviour" plastered across picture.Google it.
I also found an interesting clip on you tube of Obama giving a speech, while a man in the crowd yelled, "Jesus Christ is King". This obviously startled Obama & he was silent for a while, then he said something like, "I agree".
i apologize but what scriptures does obama fulfill? i have little knowledge of scripture and honestly i never payed any attention to politics
 
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There are many Chrisitans who vote democratic as well. There are many republicans who are not Chrisitans. It's all mixed, all sides.
About 90% of all the Satanists I have seen online vote Republican. These are actual people who worship Satan. Most of them are registered Republicans.
 

Elizabeth619

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Actually many people during the George W Bush years thought that Bush was the Anti-Christ. Even Conservatives. But he was ruled out because he was so openly evil, whereas the Anti-Christ is supposed to fool people into thinking he's good.

Almsot every president that has been in office since Kennedy has been labled the Antichrist at one point. Not just Bush and Obama.
 
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Elizabeth619

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About 90% of all the Satanists I have seen online vote Republican. These are actual people who worship Satan. Most of them are registered Republicans.
You mean the church of Satan?
 
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jimmydiggs

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About 90% of all the Satanists I have seen online vote Republican. These are actual people who worship Satan. Most of them are registered Republicans.
I'm sure it's true.

I've also noticed that at least 50% of everyone who voted democrat is a worshiping and ritualistic Satanist.

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
 

Elizabeth619

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As far as Satanists go they do worship Satan because they do not follow God. Their view of Satan is not the same as the biblical view either. To them Satan is just a name and nothing more. They actually believe the devil doesn't exist nor does Heaven or Hell.

If you are not of God then you are of Satan. Therefore there are many people who are not Christians who do worship Satan who vote republican. That is correct.
 
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You mean the church of Satan?
Yeah, a lot of those crowd, but the Satanists are branching out into 'Theistic Satanist'. Like worshiping Satan as an entity.

Most identify as a type of Libertarian, and the majority are 'Fiscally Conservative' types.

There is probably more Obama bashing on those boards than here.

If you search on the net. The 'Church of Satan' has an essay on 'Satanism and Objectivism' where they praise Ayn Rand.

Then google Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand.

I just did some searching, and a Youtube video explains the connection.

Paul Ryan, Ayn Rand, and the Church of Satan - YouTube

This is not a joke. Paul Ryan just ran for Vice President of the United States. It's not like he's some crackpot like Ron Paul.

That video also shows a quote from the Church of Satan founder praising Ayn Rand.

Now you guys can see, when I say the majority of Satanists vote Republican, I'm not just making this up.
 
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I'm sure it's true.

I've also noticed that at least 50% of everyone who voted democrat is a worshiping and ritualistic Satanist.

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Are you calling me a liar?

Please prove your Democrat claim.
 

Elizabeth619

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Yeah, a lot of those crowd, but the Satanists are branching out into 'Theistic Satanist'. Like worshiping Satan as an entity.

Most identify as a type of Libertarian, and the majority are 'Fiscally Conservative' types.

There is probably more Obama bashing on those boards than here.

If you search on the net. The 'Church of Satan' has an essay on 'Satanism and Objectivism' where they praise Ayn Rand.

Then google Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand.

I just did some searching, and a Youtube video explains the connection.

Paul Ryan, Ayn Rand, and the Church of Satan - YouTube

This is not a joke. Paul Ryan just ran for Vice President of the United States. It's not like he's some crackpot like Ron Paul.

That video also shows a quote from the Church of Satan founder praising Ayn Rand.

Now you guys can see, when I say the majority of Satanists vote Republican, I'm not just making this up.
I also saw on youtube where Obama is part of a reptilian race.
The moral of this story.... Don't look at youtube for facts.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Actually many people during the George W Bush years thought that Bush was the Anti-Christ. Even Conservatives. But he was ruled out because he was so openly evil, whereas the Anti-Christ is supposed to fool people into thinking he's good.
I still don't hold that W was evil. I think he was really so stupid he didn't realize the consequences of his actions. I know some disagree, and say he was "playing dumb" for the deniability, so he could act like he didn't know how evil his actions were. But I don't think any human being could have been that evil. On the other hand, I know humans can be that stupid. I meet them every day.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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About 90% of all the Satanists I have seen online vote Republican. These are actual people who worship Satan. Most of them are registered Republicans.
Do you have anything to support this at all?

I don't like Republicans. I tend to disagree with just about every point on their platform. But I don't think I've ever met one who was a Satanist. Granted, I haven't met very many Satanists at all, so maybe it's just not a fair sample.

Out of curiosity, how many Satanists do you think there are? Like, if you say there are 100 Satanists in the U.S., then sure, I could buy that 90 of them vote Republican. But the way you phrase it, you seem to be implying that the Republican platform is somehow similar to the Satanist platform, and I'm not sure I buy that.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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I'm sure it's true.

I've also noticed that at least 50% of everyone who voted democrat is a worshiping and ritualistic Satanist.

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Can you define what you mean by "Satanist"? There is an official religion out there called "Satanism," with adherents who believe certain things. Calling someone a Satanist because they don't believe in Christ is simply not proper word usage. It'd be like calling someone "European" because they're not African American, even if they're from India or Chile or Siberia.

Now, if you just weren't aware that there was an actual religion called "Satanism," and you're just using that word like a slur, "someone who hates God and therefore must love Satan," then I understand you were just uninformed, and now you know better.

But if you are talking about individuals who self-identify as "Satanists," do you have any reputable sources to back up these statistics? Or are you just pulling numbers out of assorted orifices?
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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As far as Satanists go they do worship Satan because they do not follow God. Their view of Satan is not the same as the biblical view either. To them Satan is just a name and nothing more. They actually believe the devil doesn't exist nor does Heaven or Hell.

If you are not of God then you are of Satan. Therefore there are many people who are not Christians who do worship Satan who vote republican. That is correct.
Aha, so you are just confused.

No, if someone just doesn't follow God, that doesn't necessarily mean they are a Satanist. See my example in the previous post. They might be Buddhist, or Pagan, or atheist. (And while there are "atheistic Satanists," not all athiests are Satanists, and not all Satanists are atheists.)

Some Satanists believe that a supernatural creature, "the horned god," does actually exist, and they honor and worship him. Some Satanists are like what you describe above, and do not think the devil actually exists as a being, but see "Satan" as a mythic representation for free-will and individualism winning out over conformity and obedience. Both of these categories would certainly be in direct opposition to Christianity.

But not all people who denounce the God of Christianity are technically "Satanists." That's just not using language properly. There are plenty of people who are neither Christian nor Satanist.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Now you guys can see, when I say the majority of Satanists vote Republican, I'm not just making this up.
Okay, now I get where you're coming from.

Yes, most Satanists do prefer some of the policies of the Republican party. They tend to lean more towards individual responsibility and away from community accountability. 20+ years ago, I'd say the Republican party was very much in line with Satanism. But today's Republicans are nothing like what Republicans were once. Today's Republicans are just as bad as (or worse than) the Democrats, trying to tell people what to do, who to like, where to live. Worse, because when the Democrats tell you where to go, at least they give you a boat to get there. The Republicans tell you where to go, then tell you you gotta swim upstream to get there.

Honestly, neither party has Christian values, and neither party is particularly in line with Satanism, either. Which just goes to prove that age-old adage, politics and religion make strange bedfellows.
 
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webchatter

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Blain, I will try to get Scripture verses for you tomorrow, but Obama fits the physical appearance of the antichrist & if the Bible is referring to his "spiritual" birthplace, Indonesia would fit.(where he grew up & practiced the Muslim religion). If a book about him is true, supposedly written by his former gay lover, then he "has no regard for women". If it was referring to the view that the antichrist holds that he has no regard for a woman's life, then his Muslim upbringing makes him qualify on that account. They murder their own daughters for fornication or adultery. (not all Muslims). He is the head of a nation. He came up from nowhere, suddenly. (community organizer who became a senator for a very short while to be the head of the country.) He will change the laws & bring judgement on his people.(?gay marriage?) The world will marvel at him & call him saviour. See newsweek cover & other nations around the world dancing in the streets at his election victory shouting, "saviour".(1st one).
He pretends to be one religion, but is another religion. (Does not regard the God of his fathers). He lies & is decietful.
Henry Kissinger said on PBS news, "We want Obama to be the leader of the New World Order". That hasn't happened yet, a lot hasn't happened yet.
I'm not saying he is the antichrist because I don't know yet. Not all is fullfilled. But it certainly bears watching, not that we could do anything about it but to warn others. Scripture says, "Watch and be sober".
 
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webchatter

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Mainly, Obama has given 1 speech where he openly criticized the Bible & read verses from it, mocking Christians who believe it. (Old Testament).
He also said in a part of his 1st election, in reference to Christians or gun owners, I don't remember, "They carry a Bible in one hand, & a gun in the other".
The man has issues with the Bible & he doesn't care to show it.
 
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Dan.9:27 then Eze 38 & 39 or vice versa not sure.
Dan8:25 &11:24 (note "deceit" that Obama did not win the democratic nomination for president,by the vote of the American people, Hillary Clinton did. Somehow, the democratic comittee overrode the American people by deceiving us into believing our votes for Hillary Clinton would matter.)
2Thess2:1-2, Rev 17,18,19
Obama speech online saying, "We are no longer a Christian nation".
Since he was first in office, he has been giving our $ to the "Muslim Brotherhood" who supports all the groups who want to kill us against us & Israel.
That is a sure sign he is not on our side. Rom. 1:18-32 says we will have a depraved mind, meaning we won't even be able to think. Why would we REELECT someone who was giviing millions to the very ones trying to kill us? No one seems to care. It's mentioned very little by the news media. There is much more about the physical description, but I can't find it right now. sorry.
 
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Grace52

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What i find annoying is that public media never brought the subject up but the played the one of angus over and over again. and now you cant find the video of jamie fox repeating trash at all.