If I keep reading nonsense like this, than the being sober part is going to be hard. Books by supposed gay lovers? Matches a physical description...because there are noother people who are like 6'4'' and black...or maybe the entire NBA is the antichrist. It's like you seriously ould believe anything people tell you. And chaning laws...all presidents do that, its kinda in their job description. sigh, sometimes i just dont get it
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If obama IS the antichrist he hasn't claimed to be jesus yet, but for some reason people are very umm how can i say this while being a good christian.... dumb because he first of all has to be the worst president we ever had yet people re elected him and now people are calling him the savior of the world!? that does seem like something that would happen to the antichrist, but still we don't exactly have the evidence yet. someone needs to ask him if he is jesus so he can answer for himself lol.
Were I a liberal, I do not believe I would be nearly so optimistic, nor would I attribute the change as a result of Barack Obama's presidency.
What Barack Obama has done effectively is point out the points of division within our society more than help one side or the other. He and his compatriots are unquestionably politically deft, so they probably did this on purpose. A lot of it is natural though. People on both sides of the aisle tend to attribute the salvific to their side and the demonic to the other side.
Any sort of persuasion has, in my estimation, been done through institutions of culture and education. It displays a far-sighted and less mechanical view of political strategy (not to mention human nature). Something I wish more of my conservative compatriots would display.
What Barack Obama has done effectively is point out the points of division within our society more than help one side or the other. He and his compatriots are unquestionably politically deft, so they probably did this on purpose. A lot of it is natural though. People on both sides of the aisle tend to attribute the salvific to their side and the demonic to the other side.
Any sort of persuasion has, in my estimation, been done through institutions of culture and education. It displays a far-sighted and less mechanical view of political strategy (not to mention human nature). Something I wish more of my conservative compatriots would display.
W
Nautilus, I said NOTHING about Obama being black. You can make all the untrue accusations you want. If you think the description of the antichrist is being black, then our Bibles are different.
There are books & pics accusing Obama of being gay. Go buy one if u want. I didn't say it was true. Why not read what I said & stop ASSUMING what I think. Maybe you should check out what you think before you accuse anyone of being stupid. How many other presidents had books & pics of them, accusing them of being gay?
It is not a matter of what anyone of us thinks. The Bible instructs us what to do, "watch & be sober". So we are watching Obama right now. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the Word of God. Obama has spent more money in his first term than all the presidents from Washington thru Bush. I guess lowering the elderly's medicare & social security checks is ok by you, since someone has to pay for the richcat banks he bailed out. Don't get upset about anyone noticing Obama fits more descriptions of the antiuchrist than other person in my lifetime, he even mocks the Bible in many of his speeches, didn't you notice, don't you care, or are you blinded by his charisma? He even said, "I was born in a manger". It's pretty common knowledge he was having an affair with the male leader of the choir in his chicago church, who ended up dead. That's a different one than wrote a book about snorting coke & having a gay relationshio with him. Today, I still have freedom of speech.
There are books & pics accusing Obama of being gay. Go buy one if u want. I didn't say it was true. Why not read what I said & stop ASSUMING what I think. Maybe you should check out what you think before you accuse anyone of being stupid. How many other presidents had books & pics of them, accusing them of being gay?
It is not a matter of what anyone of us thinks. The Bible instructs us what to do, "watch & be sober". So we are watching Obama right now. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the Word of God. Obama has spent more money in his first term than all the presidents from Washington thru Bush. I guess lowering the elderly's medicare & social security checks is ok by you, since someone has to pay for the richcat banks he bailed out. Don't get upset about anyone noticing Obama fits more descriptions of the antiuchrist than other person in my lifetime, he even mocks the Bible in many of his speeches, didn't you notice, don't you care, or are you blinded by his charisma? He even said, "I was born in a manger". It's pretty common knowledge he was having an affair with the male leader of the choir in his chicago church, who ended up dead. That's a different one than wrote a book about snorting coke & having a gay relationshio with him. Today, I still have freedom of speech.
T
So, out of curiosity, what is it about Barak's physical appearance that makes you think he is an antichrist?
There are no physical descriptions of antichrists in Scripture, so any ideas you have about what it might look like would be your own personal imagination.
Yes, Nautilus jumped to a conclusion that you were being racist, assuming that his race (black) was what made you say he "looked" like an antichrist. But it's a fair assumption to make. How is our president different from other major world leaders who might also be called an antichrist? The only thing in his physical appearance that set him apart from other major figures would be his race. He's tall, but not significantly taller than plenty of other potential candidates for the title. He's slim, but again, no moreso than dozens of other historical and current figures who could claim that dubious dishonor.
I don't think Nautilus really lept to a conclusion. He made a tiny step, and there the conclusion was, waiting for him.
So, again, if it's not his race, what is it, exactly, about the president's physical appearance, that makes you think he might be an antichrist?
There are no physical descriptions of antichrists in Scripture, so any ideas you have about what it might look like would be your own personal imagination.
Yes, Nautilus jumped to a conclusion that you were being racist, assuming that his race (black) was what made you say he "looked" like an antichrist. But it's a fair assumption to make. How is our president different from other major world leaders who might also be called an antichrist? The only thing in his physical appearance that set him apart from other major figures would be his race. He's tall, but not significantly taller than plenty of other potential candidates for the title. He's slim, but again, no moreso than dozens of other historical and current figures who could claim that dubious dishonor.
I don't think Nautilus really lept to a conclusion. He made a tiny step, and there the conclusion was, waiting for him.
So, again, if it's not his race, what is it, exactly, about the president's physical appearance, that makes you think he might be an antichrist?
S
Barack Obama is INDEED a antichrist, but NOT the ANTICHRIST, indeed there are many antichrists.
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
The antichrist is the governmental structure setting up this NWO or satan's world order to fight against the chosen ones who stand in Christ.
But Obama definitely is described in the prophesy Daniel Chapter 11 as the king of the south lets examine:
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
When Obama was running for the first term THE WHOLE WORLD MARVELLED AFTER HIM. his flatteries; ,physical appearnace, intelligence, sense of humor, the fact he was an African American deceived the people thinking a change would come. In fact he came to finish what Bush Sr and Jr did: They are cousins on his mother side!
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
Hold up , it says he is the prince of the covenant which explains he is in fact a True Hebrew by bloodline, infact African Americans are really a portion of the 12 tribes who are being cursed till this day, history backs up that the people who fled from Roman persecution fled into the moutains and dwelt in West Africa through the Ivory Coast passage. The Africans who were from the seed of HAm sold them to Europeans, look up transatlantic slave trade, North Africans, East Africans, South Africans, are not of the same geneology as West Africans in fact their customs links to the Hebrew customs in the Bible but that another can of worms.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
Obama been in more ward then the Bush's combined!! the King of the south is the king in IRAN!! The war we are about to be in !
26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
27 And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
He will be against the HOLY covenant, The chosen seed of Jacob who stands truth in Christ. This is what this NWO is all about Revelation will soon be fulfilled
29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
The daily sacrifice is our food, he will institute the mark of the beast via RFID chips, he will be the cause of making this country desolate as it is God's judgement for this country.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
He deceives African Americans, Latinos, etc by corrupting them with his vain flatteries
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
Many will instruct expose HIM and what time we are in and will fall by the sword
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
Many will come to the truth of what going on and seek god and become baptised because they know what time they are in
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
This explains it! He has blasphemed God in every way while magnifying himself as if he is god
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
This explains again that he is a Hebrew by bloodline yet regard the living god (fathers; Abraham, Issac, Jacob) He is a homo, and he does not regard any god ie, he proclaims to be christian, then he he is at a Mosque , then he is kissing the Jerusalem wall !
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
He works hand in hand with Satan himself!
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
He will cause many wars, but Edom (Europeans) Moab (Palestinians) and Ammon (Jordanian) will escape from his hand
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
He is behind the chaos in Egypt behind the scenes!
43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
Libya is being gained, Egypt will soon and Ethiopia also all happening under his term!
44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
He will come to end when he will reside in the holy land after all this is said and done
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
The antichrist is the governmental structure setting up this NWO or satan's world order to fight against the chosen ones who stand in Christ.
But Obama definitely is described in the prophesy Daniel Chapter 11 as the king of the south lets examine:
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
When Obama was running for the first term THE WHOLE WORLD MARVELLED AFTER HIM. his flatteries; ,physical appearnace, intelligence, sense of humor, the fact he was an African American deceived the people thinking a change would come. In fact he came to finish what Bush Sr and Jr did: They are cousins on his mother side!
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
Hold up , it says he is the prince of the covenant which explains he is in fact a True Hebrew by bloodline, infact African Americans are really a portion of the 12 tribes who are being cursed till this day, history backs up that the people who fled from Roman persecution fled into the moutains and dwelt in West Africa through the Ivory Coast passage. The Africans who were from the seed of HAm sold them to Europeans, look up transatlantic slave trade, North Africans, East Africans, South Africans, are not of the same geneology as West Africans in fact their customs links to the Hebrew customs in the Bible but that another can of worms.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
Obama been in more ward then the Bush's combined!! the King of the south is the king in IRAN!! The war we are about to be in !
26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
27 And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
He will be against the HOLY covenant, The chosen seed of Jacob who stands truth in Christ. This is what this NWO is all about Revelation will soon be fulfilled
29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
The daily sacrifice is our food, he will institute the mark of the beast via RFID chips, he will be the cause of making this country desolate as it is God's judgement for this country.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
He deceives African Americans, Latinos, etc by corrupting them with his vain flatteries
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
Many will instruct expose HIM and what time we are in and will fall by the sword
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
Many will come to the truth of what going on and seek god and become baptised because they know what time they are in
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
This explains it! He has blasphemed God in every way while magnifying himself as if he is god
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
This explains again that he is a Hebrew by bloodline yet regard the living god (fathers; Abraham, Issac, Jacob) He is a homo, and he does not regard any god ie, he proclaims to be christian, then he he is at a Mosque , then he is kissing the Jerusalem wall !
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
He works hand in hand with Satan himself!
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
He will cause many wars, but Edom (Europeans) Moab (Palestinians) and Ammon (Jordanian) will escape from his hand
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
He is behind the chaos in Egypt behind the scenes!
43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
Libya is being gained, Egypt will soon and Ethiopia also all happening under his term!
44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
He will come to end when he will reside in the holy land after all this is said and done
T
Sorry, but no.
(1) Plenty other presidents have been honored and "marvelled after" as you say. Kennedy has been practically canonized since his assassination. The fact that most of Europe and just a little more than half of the U.S. seems to like brother Barack does not particularly set him apart from any other president. And while he may be favored by Europeans, and he won by a small margin in the U.S., he is despised in the middle east and other parts of the world. Sorry, but that one is not going to fly.
(2) I get how a person can use intelligence to deceive others, and I suppose I can see how one might use a sense of humor to disarm another's fears. But how can "the fact that he was an African American" deceive anyone into anything? You honestly write something like that and expect us to believe you're not a racist? Seriously?
(3) Obama is not cousins with either Bush. That's just ludicrous.
OMG, there's actually someone who really believes that claptrap?
What are you drinking?
Revelation has already been fulfilled.
As for the rest of your post, I couldn't read it all. This first bit gave me enough to judge that you're a loon.
(1) Plenty other presidents have been honored and "marvelled after" as you say. Kennedy has been practically canonized since his assassination. The fact that most of Europe and just a little more than half of the U.S. seems to like brother Barack does not particularly set him apart from any other president. And while he may be favored by Europeans, and he won by a small margin in the U.S., he is despised in the middle east and other parts of the world. Sorry, but that one is not going to fly.
(2) I get how a person can use intelligence to deceive others, and I suppose I can see how one might use a sense of humor to disarm another's fears. But how can "the fact that he was an African American" deceive anyone into anything? You honestly write something like that and expect us to believe you're not a racist? Seriously?
(3) Obama is not cousins with either Bush. That's just ludicrous.
OMG, there's actually someone who really believes that claptrap?
What are you drinking?
Revelation has already been fulfilled.
As for the rest of your post, I couldn't read it all. This first bit gave me enough to judge that you're a loon.
It is utterly ridiculous and foolish to say Obama is the Anti-Christ. It is obvious many people do not even know the basics of end time prophecy, yet are more than willing to go along with the latest popular evanglist spouting of evil rehtoric and false teaching on things like replacement theology, who also make the foolish mistake of thinking that end time prophecy revolves around the USA, which clearly it does not.
Has Obama set himself up as a counterfiet Christ? NO. Has the false Prophet been exposed as well? no. Not many people realise but the The Best, aka Anti-Christ and False Prophet come along together, set up with Satan a false new counterfeit Trinity. Do we see even the beginings of this take place? NO.
Are we in the Tribulation? NO. A couple of wars against Israel have to take place before the Anti-Christ is exposed and the Tribulation begins, we are seeing the world stage being set for this and the time is not that far away, but all this talk of people being The Anti-Christ is foolish nonsense and a waste of time.
Prophecy does not revolve around or even involve America, this is a difficult thing for some Americans to accept as America is all powerful and great is it not and therefore must have something to do with prophecy, but thats a foolish way to think. The USA can be brought to its knees and turned into a minor political and military force overnight if God wills it to happen.
We read in Bible time and time again what happens to people and nations who turn thier backs on God. Great Britian used to honour GOd as a nation, as a result we had the largest Empire known in history, yet when the government and people rejected God, the Empire crumbled and now we are left as an insignificant nation on verge of being bankrupt and broken. America is heading the same way.
Has Obama set himself up as a counterfiet Christ? NO. Has the false Prophet been exposed as well? no. Not many people realise but the The Best, aka Anti-Christ and False Prophet come along together, set up with Satan a false new counterfeit Trinity. Do we see even the beginings of this take place? NO.
Are we in the Tribulation? NO. A couple of wars against Israel have to take place before the Anti-Christ is exposed and the Tribulation begins, we are seeing the world stage being set for this and the time is not that far away, but all this talk of people being The Anti-Christ is foolish nonsense and a waste of time.
Prophecy does not revolve around or even involve America, this is a difficult thing for some Americans to accept as America is all powerful and great is it not and therefore must have something to do with prophecy, but thats a foolish way to think. The USA can be brought to its knees and turned into a minor political and military force overnight if God wills it to happen.
We read in Bible time and time again what happens to people and nations who turn thier backs on God. Great Britian used to honour GOd as a nation, as a result we had the largest Empire known in history, yet when the government and people rejected God, the Empire crumbled and now we are left as an insignificant nation on verge of being bankrupt and broken. America is heading the same way.
T
You're right. Although I did not intend my comment as an insult, but as an actual diagnosis. Someone who believes this whole "sons of Shem" stuff, a false story spun by racists, mashing the Bible to "explain" different races (and to justify treating non-white races poorly, giving whites advantages over them) is not just highly bigoted. Such a person would have to be insane to believe that in this day and age. I get how people were tricked into believing it 100 years ago, when the prevailing scientific thought as well as social understanding was that the color of a person's skin really did determine that person's intelligence and ability. But today, anyone who subscribes to such theories must have psychological issues.
S
Lol if I am a racist, then I must HATE MYSELF. the truth is the truth is Obama is an antichrist Not the antichrist. Antichrist's are against God's teaching, He blasphemed him many times there are many videos to proof this, he allowed homosexual marriage what else do you need? If you don't have any scripture to rebut my claim then MY EARS are closed. I do not deal with vain philosophies over God's word.
T
That would explain a lot.
I asked for Scripture from you to support your claim that Obama was an antichrist. You gave me nothing from Scripture, only your own musings. You very much deal with "vain philosophies" over God's word, because you had nothing from the Bible to support your claims.
Here is EVERYTHING that Scripture says about "the" antichrist, or about any antichrists:
"You have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come." - 1 John 2:18
"whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.... is the antichrist" - 1 John 2:22
"every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus.... is the spirit of the antichrist" - 1 John 4:3
2 John 1:7 says anyone who is "a deceiver" is an antichrist.
That's it. A sum total of 4 mentions in the Bible, all in two letters by one apostle.
Now, your "proof" that Obama is an antichrist is (1) blasphemy and (2) allowing gay marriage. Let us look at each one separately.
(1) Blasphemy. Where in the above BIBLICAL account of the antichrist does it say anything about blasphemy? Nowhere. Even if you could prove that any of the video examples you have are actually "blasphemy" and not simply Mr. Obama having a different understanding of Scripture than you have (something millions of Jesus-loving Christians around the world share with brother Barack, by the way), how does this "prove" that Obama is the antichrist? Scripture does not say that blasphemy is a sign of an antichrist. So even if you could prove that Obama is a blasphemer, that's not going to support your claim, unless you find some part of the Bible I missed. Go ahead and show me a verse, other than the four I posted, that says blasphemy is one of the characteristics of the antichrist.
(2) Gay marriage. Once again. Where in the BIBLE does it say the antichrist is going to accept gay marriage? Just one verse, even? No?
A little Scripture would be nice.
You talk about believing in the Bible, which would be idolatry even if it were true -- we're supposed to put our faith in God alone. But you don't even do that, you put your faith in an idea, what you think the Bible might say, or what other people have told you the Bible says, which is even worse than blindly following the Bible as if it had the same power that our living, loving God has.
The Bible is a great start, but it cannot and should NEVER replace God. And if you don't even start there, you're lost before you even leave the gate.
I asked for Scripture from you to support your claim that Obama was an antichrist. You gave me nothing from Scripture, only your own musings. You very much deal with "vain philosophies" over God's word, because you had nothing from the Bible to support your claims.
Here is EVERYTHING that Scripture says about "the" antichrist, or about any antichrists:
"You have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come." - 1 John 2:18
"whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.... is the antichrist" - 1 John 2:22
"every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus.... is the spirit of the antichrist" - 1 John 4:3
2 John 1:7 says anyone who is "a deceiver" is an antichrist.
That's it. A sum total of 4 mentions in the Bible, all in two letters by one apostle.
Now, your "proof" that Obama is an antichrist is (1) blasphemy and (2) allowing gay marriage. Let us look at each one separately.
(1) Blasphemy. Where in the above BIBLICAL account of the antichrist does it say anything about blasphemy? Nowhere. Even if you could prove that any of the video examples you have are actually "blasphemy" and not simply Mr. Obama having a different understanding of Scripture than you have (something millions of Jesus-loving Christians around the world share with brother Barack, by the way), how does this "prove" that Obama is the antichrist? Scripture does not say that blasphemy is a sign of an antichrist. So even if you could prove that Obama is a blasphemer, that's not going to support your claim, unless you find some part of the Bible I missed. Go ahead and show me a verse, other than the four I posted, that says blasphemy is one of the characteristics of the antichrist.
(2) Gay marriage. Once again. Where in the BIBLE does it say the antichrist is going to accept gay marriage? Just one verse, even? No?
A little Scripture would be nice.
You talk about believing in the Bible, which would be idolatry even if it were true -- we're supposed to put our faith in God alone. But you don't even do that, you put your faith in an idea, what you think the Bible might say, or what other people have told you the Bible says, which is even worse than blindly following the Bible as if it had the same power that our living, loving God has.
The Bible is a great start, but it cannot and should NEVER replace God. And if you don't even start there, you're lost before you even leave the gate.
S
Blasphemy: 2778 charaph. khaw-raf' a primitive root; to pull off, i.e. (by implication) to expose (as by stripping); specifically, to betroth (as if a surrender); figuratively, to carp at, i.e. defame; denominative (from 2779) to spend the winter:--betroth, blaspheme, defy, jeopard, rail, reproach, upbraid. (hebrew) strong concordance : Means to defy or speak against GOD or Christ.
Is not marriage against God's law? You don't have to say literally ' I deny Christ' to be an antichrist. Anyone could be an antichrist, Heck Oprah even stated that there are many ways to go to heaven than just Christ. Is that not against Christ?
John14:6
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Matthew 24
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Christ said it himself that are going to many who claim in the name of Christ to deceive many. So you don't have to literally say ' I am against Christ' to be an antichrist in fact, many people who follow there life opposite of God's laws fulfilled by Christ is an antichrist. Many authoritative figures under Satan were and are sent out to deceive the masses
2 corinthians 11
3 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
If anyone just came out and literally denied Chirst, the masses would be expected to know that this was the antichirst, instead Satan had worked strategically since he was cast out into the earth by working on the acts of rightneousness with the hidden agenda of deceit to deceive the masses, However the end shall be according to their works means overtime which is NOW Satan has exposed himself through the government in which the NWO must be pushed, that is one government, one army, one belief, to fight against Christ and his army, the chosen who stand in Christ.
You talk about believing in the Bible, which would be idolatry even if it were true -- we're supposed to put our faith in God alone. But you don't even do that, you put your faith in an idea, what you think the Bible might say, or what other people have told you the Bible says, which is even worse than blindly following the Bible as if it had the same power that our living, loving God has.
Correction; I believe in the True Christ and the True father which is taught in the bible not in the masses. I do not believe what MAN says but what GOD and Christ says only. If I put faith on an idea, I would not apply scripture to what is going on today. The masses are BLINDLY being led my false prophets instead of what Christ taught example
Many are taught that the law is done away with:
Matt 5:17
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Think that Sunday is the day of holy sanctification to worship GOD. Sunday is on the fIRST day of the week
Exo 20
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Think that you eat whatever when their are food restrictions in Lev 11.
Pigs and selfish are bottom feeders. Pigs and selfish are meant to clean up waste in the earth. No wonder why people have so many health problems , hypertension, stroke correlated to high cholesterol,; also People are allergic to Iodine, Iodine is found in shellfish! along with high levels of Mercury amongst other things we don't supposed to consume.
All in all I respect your comment attempt because you were the only one so far who commented with scripture.
T
This is not what Scripture says: you are adding to Scripture to come to that conclusion.
According to Scripture, an antichrist is not anyone who is "against Christ," which would be a literal meaning of the English word used for the Greek "antixristos." I find it interesting that you found the Hebrew definition of "blasphemy" (karaph) but you did not post the Greek definition for "antichrist." One might wonder why that is. Surely Strong's, your reference for the Hebrew word, also has the New Testament Greek in it. I don't have access to a Strongs right now, but I doubt the word "antichrist" is missing. You could have looked that one up just as easily.
Or maybe you did, and realized the definition was not at all what you believed an "antichrist" was, so rather than change you view to match Scripture, you decided to keep your old view and ignore what your Bible tools were telling you. Sure, Bible tools can be wrong sometimes. I always recommend someone seek the counsel of an expert in cases where you have contradictions like this, though it certainly isn't necessary to be fluent in Greek and Hebrew, or even to have access to a concordance, in order to read the Bible. But if you see something that challenges what you believe, and you hear something that seems to agree with what God is saying, and disagrees with what your initial belief was, you might want to step back and think rather than holding on to your view blindly.
The "christ" in "antichrist" does not mean that the person is opposed to Jesus. The Greek word "christos" is not Jesus' name but his title. He is "the anointed one." The Hebrew word is "Messiah."
An antichrist is not someone who is opposed to Jesus, the Christ. An antichrist is someone who has been anointed for a specific purpose: to oppose God, and/or to oppose God's people.
John gives us only one indication of how to spot "the antichrist" -- of how to tell that someone might be anointed as The Enemy. That only clue is that they deny that Jesus is the son of God. That's it. Nothing about blasphemy. Nothing about unsound doctrine. Nothing about liberal theology. Someone who denies that Jesus is the son of God.
I have seen the videos where Obama chuckle while discussing the Bible. To me, it is pretty obvious that he is not laughing at the Bible, but rather he is laughing because it's clear, from the words in the Bible (or at least in that one passage that he quotes), that Scripture is supporting his party's platform -- at least in that one particular issue of poverty -- and is speaking against the Republican policy. The chuckle is due to what we call "irony," when we see a paradox or seeming mix-up. In this case, Republicans, who claim to have the religious moral superiority over Democrats, get some things wrong when it comes to the Bible. Not everything, mind you -- I know the Democrats get a lot of things wrong, too. But the video you're referring to, it's pretty clear what's going on, and only a fool would think that Obama was being blasphemous or disrespectful.
Be that as it may, even if he were blaspheming, that is not, as I stated before, a sign of the antichrist, one who is anointed for the specific task of opposing God.
There are plenty of potential candidates for that title. Anyone who has heard the story of Jesus, but has not converted to Christianity, could be an antichrist. That means almost all non-Christians in the world. There are a few corners in the world that have not been evangelized, where missionaries have not reached to tell the story, but for the most part, everyone has had the chance to meet Jesus, and has either accepted or denied. So, well over half of the population of the world is a potential antichrist. I don't think every person who denies Jesus is an antichrist -- I don't think they are all anointed to oppose God. But they are all potential candidates.
You know who else falls in this category? Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers. He has written that he denies that Jesus was the son of God. He likes Jesus' teachings, they're all nice, but he does not accept the idea of Jesus being God. Therefore, he is a potential antichrist. In fact, many of the founding fathers held similar beliefs, and are equally solid candidates.
However, since about the mid 1800s, every American President has been pretty solidly Christian, at least publicly, if not in actuality, and to my knowledge, none of the last 30 presidents have ever made a statement denying Jesus' deity. That includes Obama.
No, Obama is not an antichrist, no matter how you slice it.
According to Scripture, an antichrist is not anyone who is "against Christ," which would be a literal meaning of the English word used for the Greek "antixristos." I find it interesting that you found the Hebrew definition of "blasphemy" (karaph) but you did not post the Greek definition for "antichrist." One might wonder why that is. Surely Strong's, your reference for the Hebrew word, also has the New Testament Greek in it. I don't have access to a Strongs right now, but I doubt the word "antichrist" is missing. You could have looked that one up just as easily.
Or maybe you did, and realized the definition was not at all what you believed an "antichrist" was, so rather than change you view to match Scripture, you decided to keep your old view and ignore what your Bible tools were telling you. Sure, Bible tools can be wrong sometimes. I always recommend someone seek the counsel of an expert in cases where you have contradictions like this, though it certainly isn't necessary to be fluent in Greek and Hebrew, or even to have access to a concordance, in order to read the Bible. But if you see something that challenges what you believe, and you hear something that seems to agree with what God is saying, and disagrees with what your initial belief was, you might want to step back and think rather than holding on to your view blindly.
The "christ" in "antichrist" does not mean that the person is opposed to Jesus. The Greek word "christos" is not Jesus' name but his title. He is "the anointed one." The Hebrew word is "Messiah."
An antichrist is not someone who is opposed to Jesus, the Christ. An antichrist is someone who has been anointed for a specific purpose: to oppose God, and/or to oppose God's people.
John gives us only one indication of how to spot "the antichrist" -- of how to tell that someone might be anointed as The Enemy. That only clue is that they deny that Jesus is the son of God. That's it. Nothing about blasphemy. Nothing about unsound doctrine. Nothing about liberal theology. Someone who denies that Jesus is the son of God.
I have seen the videos where Obama chuckle while discussing the Bible. To me, it is pretty obvious that he is not laughing at the Bible, but rather he is laughing because it's clear, from the words in the Bible (or at least in that one passage that he quotes), that Scripture is supporting his party's platform -- at least in that one particular issue of poverty -- and is speaking against the Republican policy. The chuckle is due to what we call "irony," when we see a paradox or seeming mix-up. In this case, Republicans, who claim to have the religious moral superiority over Democrats, get some things wrong when it comes to the Bible. Not everything, mind you -- I know the Democrats get a lot of things wrong, too. But the video you're referring to, it's pretty clear what's going on, and only a fool would think that Obama was being blasphemous or disrespectful.
Be that as it may, even if he were blaspheming, that is not, as I stated before, a sign of the antichrist, one who is anointed for the specific task of opposing God.
There are plenty of potential candidates for that title. Anyone who has heard the story of Jesus, but has not converted to Christianity, could be an antichrist. That means almost all non-Christians in the world. There are a few corners in the world that have not been evangelized, where missionaries have not reached to tell the story, but for the most part, everyone has had the chance to meet Jesus, and has either accepted or denied. So, well over half of the population of the world is a potential antichrist. I don't think every person who denies Jesus is an antichrist -- I don't think they are all anointed to oppose God. But they are all potential candidates.
You know who else falls in this category? Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers. He has written that he denies that Jesus was the son of God. He likes Jesus' teachings, they're all nice, but he does not accept the idea of Jesus being God. Therefore, he is a potential antichrist. In fact, many of the founding fathers held similar beliefs, and are equally solid candidates.
However, since about the mid 1800s, every American President has been pretty solidly Christian, at least publicly, if not in actuality, and to my knowledge, none of the last 30 presidents have ever made a statement denying Jesus' deity. That includes Obama.
No, Obama is not an antichrist, no matter how you slice it.
Well, you did an awesome job of nailing down the meaning, but the terms of application appear to be flawed. Denying Christ's divinity is a hallmark of some wings of liberal theology (you can't really pin liberal theology down by its definition anyhow. It is also considered a form of blasphemy.
That could be so. He really may believe that his beliefs are supported by scripture and the Republican ones are not. Perhaps he thinks the question is irrelevant in the context of fundamental principles although culturally relevant. There is no real way to judge without asking the man himself.
According to Jeremiah Wright, the man had shown little personal interest in religion when he spoke with Obama, that is why I would bank on the latter judgment. If that is the case (and there is no way of knowing for sure matters of the heart being what they are), then he is a candidate.
Thank you for mentioning Thomas Jefferson. This something I wish more Evangelicals would point out. A good portion of our star founding fathers were not Christians.
Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were Renaissance Humanists, and maintained a religious system reminiscent of that era (much less Deist than what people claim). John Adams was a Unitarian (though his personal writings come off as very Christian in nature). George Washington had deep spiritual leanings, so deep he rarely shared them with others which, like Barack Obama, leaves one with the opportunity to do little more than read and make inferences.
But like I said, those were the "star" founders. If I had to gage which founder had the most far-reaching impact, it would be Jefferson. Either way, there is decent evidence that Alexander Hamilton would be a Christian as we define it as would James Madison. Dr. Benjamin Rush was most certainly a Christian, and a lot many of the men involved with signing the Declaration and drafting the Constitution were Christians. Those we do not sing about these days anyhow.
All of this to say, if we are to read history accurately, Christians have cooperated with non-Christians in the operation of civil government since the founding era. To say otherwise would be dishonest and discredit the biblical principles that apply to all people.
The Presidents are another interesting case altogether. Very rarely do you hear them profess Christ as, say, George W. Bush did when he referred to Christ, erroneously, as a political philosopher or share his Jesus moments with Billy Graham. We also don't often hear Presidential candidates appropriate the tune of hymns as TR's friends did without provocation. What we do have is a situation of complexity in the latter half of the 20th and 21st centuries in which Presidents and other politicians have had to govern a people with many theological leanings, so they have had to be deft in leading these people by appealing to their beliefs while still standing by their own. Sometimes this can be quite difficult, so you only get your answers through personal accounts and the like.
There is little different about Barack Obama in these respects. If Christians want to take issue with that, they have decades of tradition to take issue with. Perhaps it is time they should.
Either way, we ought to proceed with the knowledge that Thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, not Ours is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, and judge our leaders based on how they handle that distinction.
Here's the rub, sometimes even our Christian brothers and sisters don't realize the proper place of government. Never said it was easy.
That could be so. He really may believe that his beliefs are supported by scripture and the Republican ones are not. Perhaps he thinks the question is irrelevant in the context of fundamental principles although culturally relevant. There is no real way to judge without asking the man himself.
According to Jeremiah Wright, the man had shown little personal interest in religion when he spoke with Obama, that is why I would bank on the latter judgment. If that is the case (and there is no way of knowing for sure matters of the heart being what they are), then he is a candidate.
Thank you for mentioning Thomas Jefferson. This something I wish more Evangelicals would point out. A good portion of our star founding fathers were not Christians.
Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were Renaissance Humanists, and maintained a religious system reminiscent of that era (much less Deist than what people claim). John Adams was a Unitarian (though his personal writings come off as very Christian in nature). George Washington had deep spiritual leanings, so deep he rarely shared them with others which, like Barack Obama, leaves one with the opportunity to do little more than read and make inferences.
But like I said, those were the "star" founders. If I had to gage which founder had the most far-reaching impact, it would be Jefferson. Either way, there is decent evidence that Alexander Hamilton would be a Christian as we define it as would James Madison. Dr. Benjamin Rush was most certainly a Christian, and a lot many of the men involved with signing the Declaration and drafting the Constitution were Christians. Those we do not sing about these days anyhow.
All of this to say, if we are to read history accurately, Christians have cooperated with non-Christians in the operation of civil government since the founding era. To say otherwise would be dishonest and discredit the biblical principles that apply to all people.
The Presidents are another interesting case altogether. Very rarely do you hear them profess Christ as, say, George W. Bush did when he referred to Christ, erroneously, as a political philosopher or share his Jesus moments with Billy Graham. We also don't often hear Presidential candidates appropriate the tune of hymns as TR's friends did without provocation. What we do have is a situation of complexity in the latter half of the 20th and 21st centuries in which Presidents and other politicians have had to govern a people with many theological leanings, so they have had to be deft in leading these people by appealing to their beliefs while still standing by their own. Sometimes this can be quite difficult, so you only get your answers through personal accounts and the like.
There is little different about Barack Obama in these respects. If Christians want to take issue with that, they have decades of tradition to take issue with. Perhaps it is time they should.
Either way, we ought to proceed with the knowledge that Thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, not Ours is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, and judge our leaders based on how they handle that distinction.
Here's the rub, sometimes even our Christian brothers and sisters don't realize the proper place of government. Never said it was easy.
S
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew24
Christ stated that many would come teaching the name of Christ to deceive many.
Is that not an antichrist like?
people simply bringing out laws, and teaching people the opposite of what Christ was about is simply an antichrist, the key word here is Christ. The main authoritative figures will be professing Christ with means the deception would be under the brim of Christianity itself. False prophets teaching in the name of Christ.
See here the deception or cannot lie outside Christianity because we all know what we god we are dealing with. This was a warning in Matt 24 from Christ himself.
The Romans killed Christ , persecuted and enslaved the Jews in 70AD and were responsible for incorporating their pagan beliefs into Christianity through Constantine and is the mother of all churches. sounds familiar?
Now Obama : did he not mandate gay marriage? Is that not against God's laws. and he is a Christian you say? From personal reflection, we had once visited the barber shop in Philadelphia in which he has a personal photo with the barbers in which he greeted the Muslim community in their language and acted as he was a Muslim brother. Sister, he does not have regards for any god. He also bowed down to the pope and kissed his ring. I am all for respect, however I will only bow to God.
Listen Sister I respect your comment, I don't intend to do any bashing but I want people to see what is really going on and you will see by early next year what what Real deal is with this government and their plan in due time.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew24
Christ stated that many would come teaching the name of Christ to deceive many.
Is that not an antichrist like?
people simply bringing out laws, and teaching people the opposite of what Christ was about is simply an antichrist, the key word here is Christ. The main authoritative figures will be professing Christ with means the deception would be under the brim of Christianity itself. False prophets teaching in the name of Christ.
See here the deception or cannot lie outside Christianity because we all know what we god we are dealing with. This was a warning in Matt 24 from Christ himself.
The Romans killed Christ , persecuted and enslaved the Jews in 70AD and were responsible for incorporating their pagan beliefs into Christianity through Constantine and is the mother of all churches. sounds familiar?
Now Obama : did he not mandate gay marriage? Is that not against God's laws. and he is a Christian you say? From personal reflection, we had once visited the barber shop in Philadelphia in which he has a personal photo with the barbers in which he greeted the Muslim community in their language and acted as he was a Muslim brother. Sister, he does not have regards for any god. He also bowed down to the pope and kissed his ring. I am all for respect, however I will only bow to God.
Listen Sister I respect your comment, I don't intend to do any bashing but I want people to see what is really going on and you will see by early next year what what Real deal is with this government and their plan in due time.