Food Stamps Reduced in November

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letti

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Yeah,i know plenty of people who raise eyebrows at least mine.Abuse of the system,hmm they should weed out those that take advantage cause some people did not ask for their situation that befell , and others just abuse a already flawed system.Poverty has,to many causes some could be remedied,and others can't.This system is a revolving door,it never get's better because they never address the problems they could fix,wage reform,creation of more jobs,they complain and do nothing to solve what could be solved.A good majority of the so called, Food Stamp recipients do work, and even at full time on scrap wages can't pay all the bills, and buy food plus let's not mention gasoline prices to get to that job that only pays scrap wages.
 
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overcomer2

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I believe if you are on any assistance at this time including unemployment get ready for a change. It's time for all Christians to get off of this. The Lord said to those Christians who had~ to give to those who did not have. Simple,those in here saying they don't believe in the system, how much of your income goes to helping the bretheren who don't have?
 
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letti

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I't all a in depth issue,what solution?well,I don't have the answers just some ideas.
 

shrimp

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although i do agree with letti's above comment, i was talking about the women who have children every two years just for the money. i know people like this and they certainly don't love their children.
 

Elizabeth619

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I believe if you are on any assistance at this time including unemployment get ready for a change. It's time for all Christians to get off of this. The Lord said to those Christians who had~ to give to those who did not have. Simple,those in here saying they don't believe in the system, how much of your income goes to helping the bretheren who don't have?
Ill give you an itemized list if you want one.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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Yeah,i know plenty of people who raise eyebrows at least mine.Abuse of the system,hmm they should weed out those that take advantage cause some people did not ask for their situation that befell , and others just abuse a already flawed system.Poverty has,to many causes some could be remedied,and others can't.This system is a revolving door,it never get's better because they never address the problems they could fix,wage reform,creation of more jobs,they complain and do nothing to solve what could be solved.A good majority of the so called, Food Stamp recipients do work, and even at full time on scrap wages can't pay all the bills, and buy food plus let's not mention gasoline prices to get to that job that only pays scrap wages.
The consequences of usury. But many are too stupid to understand it, and blame those with misfortune, while they have plenty. Yet when the same start to suffer, it suddenly becomes clear to them.
 
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overcomer2

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Everyone will have to answer to God whether doing right or wrong. I'm about let's be righteous. For those on food stamps or unemployment my message to you is there is grace and mercy and he is letting you know to prepare. He is fore-warning you.
 

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Welfare Demographics
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

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Welfare Statistics
Total number of Americans on welfare 12,800,000
Total number of Americans on food stamps 46,700,000
Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance 5,600,000
Percent of the US population on welfare 4.1 %
Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion

Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

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SNAP:

According to demographic data, 43% of SNAP participants are white, 33% are African-American, 19% are Hispanic, 2% are Asian, and 2% are Native American.

In 2010, the average SNAP client received a monthly benefit of $133.79, and the average household received $289.61 monthly.

SNAP benefits can be used to purchase all food products, not including: beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes, or tobacco; any nonfood items; vitamins and medicines; foods that will be eaten in the store; or hot foods.

According to a recent USDA analysis, SNAP reached a payment accuracy of 96.19% in 2012 (the highest that the program has ever seen). Trafficking rates—the number of benefits exchanged for cash—are at 1%

more than half of SNAP recipients are children or the elderly. For the remaining working-age individuals, many of them are currently employed. At least forty percent of all SNAP beneficiaries live in a household with earnings. At the same time, the majority of SNAP households do not receive cash welfare benefits (around 10% receive cash welfare), with increasing numbers of SNAP beneficiaries obtaining their primary source of income from employment.

Undocumented immigrants are not (and never have been) eligible for SNAP benefits. Documented immigrants can only receive SNAP benefits if they have resided within the United States for at least five years (with some exceptions for refugees, children, and individuals receiving asylum).

SNAP: Frequently Asked Questions | Snap To Health

what's the problem?
 

Elizabeth619

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Everyone will have to answer to God whether doing right or wrong. I'm about let's be righteous. For those on food stamps or unemployment my message to you is there is grace and mercy and he is letting you know to prepare. He is fore-warning you.
A good government should help it's citizens in times of need. There is absolutely nothing wrong with assistance, but those who depend on the government for a permanent way of living is the problem, and a government who manipulates its people, "redistributes ones wealth" and mandates people to purchase goods is corrupt. Welfare isn't wrong or a sin, but the motive behind it should be questioned.
 
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letti

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The consequences of usury. But many are too stupid to understand it, and blame those with misfortune, while they have plenty. Yet when the same start to suffer, it suddenly becomes clear to them.
HMM,some people most assuredly abuse the system,a system created for certain truly sick, disabled,and those receiving very low pay wages,but the good Lord knows it is easy to pass judgment without walking in another persons shoes first.My husband is very ill,he has to take short breaks and go back to labor that low pay job that is hastening his lung disease.I have my own multitudes of circumstances,only God understands the shoes we are walking in.I'f the churches were better organized with charity for our country it might be easier,but even that seems not fairing as it should.Many downsides,and this issue falls under much debate.
 
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CCmarie05

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HMM,some people most assuredly abuse the system,a system created for certain truly sick, disabled,and those receiving very low pay wages,but the good Lord knows it is easy to pass judgment without walking in another persons shoes first.My husband is very ill,he has to take short breaks and go back to labor that low pay job that is hastening his lung disease.I have my own multitudes of circumstances,only God understands the shoes we are walking in.I'f the churches were better organized with charity for our country it might be easier,but even that seems not fairing as it should.Many downsides,and this issue falls under much debate.
All of the churches in my community are very organized when it comes to helping feed the hungry. They all have food pantries and they do monthly dinners....but there are far too many needy people here. The need outweighs the supplies too often.
 

Elizabeth619

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HMM,some people most assuredly abuse the system,a system created for certain truly sick, disabled,and those receiving very low pay wages,but the good Lord knows it is easy to pass judgment without walking in another persons shoes first.My husband is very ill,he has to take short breaks and go back to labor that low pay job that is hastening his lung disease.I have my own multitudes of circumstances,only God understands the shoes we are walking in.I'f the churches were better organized with charity for our country it might be easier,but even that seems not fairing as it should.Many downsides,and this issue falls under much debate.
One thing that has been a problem in my area with churches(and I assume many other areas as well) is people take advantage of charity from churches so they have become more strict on who they give to.
One example is a young couple with children were struggling to pay rent, so a church her gave them $1,000.00 to catch up on rent. The couple ended up blowing the money on other things like video games, a new tv, etc. Then the couple asks for more money. What's a church to do? Give more money knowing they're just going to blow it?
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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One thing that has been a problem in my area with churches(and I assume many other areas as well) is people take advantage of charity from churches so they have become more strict on who they give to.
One example is a young couple with children were struggling to pay rent, so a church her gave them $1,000.00 to catch up on rent. The couple ended up blowing the money on other things like video games, a new tv, etc. Then the couple asks for more money. What's a church to do? Give more money knowing they're just going to blow it?
Probably giving money is never a good thing. If you must, it would be better to pay debts for them.

Even better still to give food, clothing, shelter etc. Never money. For the reason you outline.
 
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CCmarie05

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Ah they should have paid the landlord for the rent instead of handing the people the cash. It's sad to say but most people can't be trusted when it comes to money. Which is horrible for the people who wouldn't abuse the help. Make people not trust anyone these days
 
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letti

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All of the churches in my community are very organized when it comes to helping feed the hungry. They all have food pantries and they do monthly dinners....but there are far too many needy people here. The need outweighs the supplies too often.
You have a good point,some do,but many don't,each community is different,some have more than others.Also, you are right more than demand can meet.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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HMM,some people most assuredly abuse the system,a system created for certain truly sick, disabled,and those receiving very low pay wages,but the good Lord knows it is easy to pass judgment without walking in another persons shoes first.My husband is very ill,he has to take short breaks and go back to labor that low pay job that is hastening his lung disease.I have my own multitudes of circumstances,only God understands the shoes we are walking in.I'f the churches were better organized with charity for our country it might be easier,but even that seems not fairing as it should.Many downsides,and this issue falls under much debate.
I agree, but people don't need a lot to live. If the whole world wasn't taxed to death (land tax, income tax, goods and services tax, etc. to pay the never ending usury on national debt), the whole situation would be totally different, and there would be plenty to share.

So much productivity is robbed, and those paying taxes often blame the poor, instead of blaming the true cause of the problem - the usurious debt money system, which robs everyone (rich and poor).
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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I don't think anyone is mocking the poor though there are many on assistance that don't need them. Which takes away from those who are truly needy.

According to news sources people will have $36 less per month, and there are ways to still get what you need even with less funds. Buy generic brands and use coupons. Cut out frivolous items that you don't need like sodas, candy, ect. Shop at discount grocery stores as well.
Those who insist on the debt money usury system are mocking the poor, and showing contempt for their Maker. The poverty we see is not an accident - it has been designed this way. (But I think you know this). Probably part of the lead-up to that civil war. :|
 
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letti

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That,is also another issue,anybody ever heard of the politicians that Dip into taxpayer dollars to wine and dine at a lavish hotel,meanwhile all these destitute folks get frowned upon for simply trying to afford 3 meals a day and having to get some help,since they don't get payed fair wages or are unlucky enough to be truly ill.I see a whole lot of hypocrisy in all these things.I think a whole lot of Discrimination is part of it all.But some truly need to work if they can,and not just do nothing.
 
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letti

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Those who insist on the debt money usury system are mocking the poor, and showing contempt for their Maker. The poverty we see is not an accident - it has been designed this way. (But I think you know this). Probably part of the lead-up to that civil war. :|
You,have got it,wow most either make excuses come up with some idiotic alternate reasoning.I't was designed this way.All those sitting in power are hypocrites,they are above common law,but we the blamed for sponging off such a honest system.LOL yeah right,at least those earning low pay and truly disabled are being honest,and being given a only enough to scrape by.Who is the real criminal,the poor guy or the rich one in power never satisfied,stealing taxpayer dollars to pay for his lavish lifestyle.