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Here are some actual numbers from the Pew Research Center.
In 2014 there were 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. This number has remained stable for about the last five years, and is down from our peak at 2007.
Of these undocumented immigrants, 8.1 million were working in the U.S. (2012 stats).
About 2.2 million of them are children.
So, that means about 1 million are potentially "sponging" off the American system. (Unless you want to count education and healthcare provided to children as "sponging").
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Yea .."illegal" brown or whatever people who are destroying the economic and moral welfare of our society. Maybe we could pay for universal healthcare for our "legal" citizens if not for all the illegals that our destroying our economy and stealing the benefits meant for our citizens. I would love to buy every homeless person a house ..but you know what? I don't have the money and neither does our country. We need to take care of our own "brown" people, and let other nations do the same.
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That's 8 million jobs that could go to the poor "brown" people in America ..and I guarantee the majority of those working are getting foodstamps etc... for their 6 kids and wife ... Then add the other 2 million that are complete sponges on our society..not to mention the Crime and drugs they bring with them
This is the way people lie on the internet. They say something like in 2014, there were 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. They don't say the number is an estimate and that an exact number is impossible to know since illegal immigrants don't respond to surveys honestly, or at all.
Then you tell folks that number has remained stable for the last five years, when this administration has used new criteria for counting illegal immigrants, in hopes of making themselves look successful at deporting illegals. So it's another way to lie about the problem.
Then you introduce some math into the discussion in hopes of not getting called out as an even bigger liar. You say that 8.1 million illegal immigrants were working in the U.S. in 2012. You try conclude that despite being criminals, they are really good people who are working and not sponging off of taxpayers. Again, you are lying. We don't know how many illegal immigrants are here and we don't know how many are working. When I have hired labor crews, I ask the company owner if his crews have any illegals. He then tells me they passed E-Verify. I ask him again, and he says that of course they are illegals, but they found a way to cheat E-Verify and so he feels he can't get into trouble by hiring them. The ones he likes, he pays cash so they are less likely to be tracked and deported. There is no paper trail showing them as employed. No payroll taxes either. And just because illegals do work from time to time, that hardly means they also don't commit crimes and create enormous costs to taxpayers.
Next you make up a number of children of the illegal immigrants, subtract that number from the estimated total and also subtract the made up number of illegals you claim are working and paying taxes, and you defend a number of 1 million that are truly sponging off of this country, as though that is an entirely acceptable number. It isn't. Not to any intelligent person who knows the truth of the cost of illegal immigration.
You suggest that education and health care costs of illegals isn't part of them sponging, despite those costs being in the hundreds of billions of dollars. As local schools become overcrowded, new schools need to be built and new staff hired to teach those illegals. Teachers will need to be paid more to insure they are bilingual. More schools and more hospitals and more doctors and more nurses.
Illegals are already criminals the moment they cross illegally into the U.S. Many don't have a problem breaking additional laws while here. That means more police officers and more jails and more judges and more court appointed lawyers, and more crime and more graffiti and more drunk drivers, and more shootings and stabbings and more gang members. What does Pew Research have to say about all of this? What did you have to say about all of those costs to local communities? Nothing. Some people are stupid and don't understand the incredible cost to U.S. citizens that illegal immigrants create. Others choose to ignore the costs, and lie to people about what they think the numbers might be.
I've watched coverage of illegals driving drunk and killing innocent Americans, including a local police officer. I've watched the news discuss murders done by illegals who then flee across the boarder, back to Mexico. If you have friends working in hospitals, they can tell you stories of illegals getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in emergency services and walking out without paying a dime. Those costs are passed on to American taxpayers.
So which is it? Are you stupid and don't grasp what is happening and what it is costing American taxpayers, or are you aware of it and trying to lie to us in an attempt to minimize the extent of the damage illegals are doing?
Then you tell folks that number has remained stable for the last five years, when this administration has used new criteria for counting illegal immigrants, in hopes of making themselves look successful at deporting illegals. So it's another way to lie about the problem.
Then you introduce some math into the discussion in hopes of not getting called out as an even bigger liar. You say that 8.1 million illegal immigrants were working in the U.S. in 2012. You try conclude that despite being criminals, they are really good people who are working and not sponging off of taxpayers. Again, you are lying. We don't know how many illegal immigrants are here and we don't know how many are working. When I have hired labor crews, I ask the company owner if his crews have any illegals. He then tells me they passed E-Verify. I ask him again, and he says that of course they are illegals, but they found a way to cheat E-Verify and so he feels he can't get into trouble by hiring them. The ones he likes, he pays cash so they are less likely to be tracked and deported. There is no paper trail showing them as employed. No payroll taxes either. And just because illegals do work from time to time, that hardly means they also don't commit crimes and create enormous costs to taxpayers.
Next you make up a number of children of the illegal immigrants, subtract that number from the estimated total and also subtract the made up number of illegals you claim are working and paying taxes, and you defend a number of 1 million that are truly sponging off of this country, as though that is an entirely acceptable number. It isn't. Not to any intelligent person who knows the truth of the cost of illegal immigration.
You suggest that education and health care costs of illegals isn't part of them sponging, despite those costs being in the hundreds of billions of dollars. As local schools become overcrowded, new schools need to be built and new staff hired to teach those illegals. Teachers will need to be paid more to insure they are bilingual. More schools and more hospitals and more doctors and more nurses.
Illegals are already criminals the moment they cross illegally into the U.S. Many don't have a problem breaking additional laws while here. That means more police officers and more jails and more judges and more court appointed lawyers, and more crime and more graffiti and more drunk drivers, and more shootings and stabbings and more gang members. What does Pew Research have to say about all of this? What did you have to say about all of those costs to local communities? Nothing. Some people are stupid and don't understand the incredible cost to U.S. citizens that illegal immigrants create. Others choose to ignore the costs, and lie to people about what they think the numbers might be.
I've watched coverage of illegals driving drunk and killing innocent Americans, including a local police officer. I've watched the news discuss murders done by illegals who then flee across the boarder, back to Mexico. If you have friends working in hospitals, they can tell you stories of illegals getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in emergency services and walking out without paying a dime. Those costs are passed on to American taxpayers.
So which is it? Are you stupid and don't grasp what is happening and what it is costing American taxpayers, or are you aware of it and trying to lie to us in an attempt to minimize the extent of the damage illegals are doing?
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