All Combat Roles Now Open to Women in U.S.

[WarriorForChrist]

I am ok with the change as long as they don't lower the standards for women to pass the requirements. They did this for Airborne School when I was in. The group running was slowed down for when females started going to Jump School.

Another issue concerning women in Combat Arms is sanitary issues. While I was in the Army a female officer died due to poor hygiene. I was in the Infantry and I have gone almost 30 days without a shower. Basically wet wipes and powder was our shower.

If women are going to be in special operations then they need to consider what I stated above because those boys aren't around all that much. Also, Green Berets are out by themselves quite a bit. I'm talking about one team member in some remote area teaching the local tribes. I would think a female operative would be in a dangerous situation concerning rape more than a man would in the same situation.

These are things the military needs to consider before throwing them in the mix of things.

 

[crossnote]

I know a few women that I'd rather fight alongside than most of the young men graduating from our high schools today.

Another sign of the feminzed times.

 

[ThomistColin]

In Ireland and Scotland, the only indigenous areas that rebuffed the Roman legion handily, women fought beside the men. There were female berserkers and there is always the example of Boudica.

My issue is on lowering the requirements. Should that happen then we aren't fixing a "gender inequality" situation... We are making one.

 

[p_rehbein]

Another sign of the feminzed times.

I made this very same statement (well, almost the same) back in the late 60's and early 70's........and I bet folks in the times of long, long ago said the same............

But we surely are giving birth to a Nation of ............... well, you know.......

 

[p_rehbein]

Hi folks, who said anything about having to lower standards,
seriously, have you ever seen a woman with PMS!
Would you stand in front of a woman holding a sub machine gun
with PMS!

Be afraid, be very afraid!


View attachment 141561

We are speaking from experience...........and knowing that it is a real possibility.......in the past, the Military has lowered qualifications on many occasions for various reasons............just saying........

 

[p_rehbein]

Nothing like knowing (as a man) you are being protected by women.
Sigh I must be getting too old for all this. Obviously another step down the Politically Correct path.

True story: When I was in the 1st Grade, my first week at school, the following occurred:

I went out at Recess to the playground. This particular School had a divided playground........the upper half for the younger children (Grades 1, 2 and 3)........the lower half was for the older children (Grades 4 through 6). I did not know this, and when I went out that day, I saw my big sister some distance off. I called out to her and ran towards her, and committed the horrible crime of crossing the dividing line............One of those guys who wore those white belts (Safety Patrol guys or whatever) ran over and grabbed me and started dragging me back to the upper part where I was suppose to be. He was shouting at me, and being a bit of a bully......

Sadly (for him), my big sister saw what was happening. She came running 90 to nothing, gave him a shout to let me go, and when he turned to shout back at her, SHE DECKED HIM with one punch! As he lay there, she informed him that I was her little brother, and he was NEVER to lay a hand on me again.

He never did..............and I never forgot that............and as the years went by when guys got into that age old discussion of "my big brother can beat up your big brother," I would laugh at them and say: "Yeah, but my big sister can beat all of them up......."

 

[Dude653]

A rifle doesn't care what gender the wielder is.

 

[p_rehbein]

Women have been fighting in the Israeli Army for many years............

 

[Angela53510]

Women have been fighting in the Israeli Army for many years............

It would be interesting to learn how the Israelis have dealt with most women being weaker than men, without having to dummy down the requirements for everyone.

I am all for equal rights for women. But if there are standards they cannot meet, they should not be allowed to be a part of the unit. I guess I am just not PC enough!

When my son was in the artillery, he had a perfect record in every course he took, being quite a math genius. However, one course, a woman was teaching, and she didn't even speak English, but only French. Lucky for my son, he had been in French immersion for 6 years.

Anyway, the woman teacher set up the final gun to go off. My son felt something was off, and checked all the specs, and found out the gun was going to blow up and kill them all! Literally. So he spoke out of turn, thinking it was better to save not only his life, but everyone elses. The woman teacher got extremely mad at my son for speaking out of turn, and wouldn't listen.

My son is more timid than me, but he persisted, and demanded she call in another teacher to check the specs on the artillery gun. She finally did, and the man officer agreed that my son was right, and the woman teacher would have killed them all.

His reward for that stepping out and doing the right thing? He did not get the class award and graduated at the bottom of his class despite his perfect record, and saving the lives of his whole squad.

I wonder if a man teacher would have been that stupid and that arrogant not to listen to an honest concern? My son began to realize that the Canadian Armed Forces were totally slanted towards women and francophones after that, when he did not get an officer's commission, because "they filled up the commissions with people from Quebec first."

Now you know why Justin wants to bring our air fighters home. Because he doesn't want any more Quebecers getting killed.

 

[Dude653]

It would be interesting to learn how the Israelis have dealt with most women being weaker than men, without having to dummy down the requirements for everyone.

I am all for equal rights for women. But if there are standards they cannot meet, they should not be allowed to be a part of the unit. I guess I am just not PC enough!

When my son was in the artillery, he had a perfect record in every course he took, being quite a math genius. However, one course, a woman was teaching, and she didn't even speak English, but only French. Lucky for my son, he had been in French immersion for 6 years.

Anyway, the woman teacher set up the final gun to go off. My son felt something was off, and checked all the specs, and found out the gun was going to blow up and kill them all! Literally. So he spoke out of turn, thinking it was better to save not only his life, but everyone elses. The woman teacher got extremely mad at my son for speaking out of turn, and wouldn't listen.

My son is more timid than me, but he persisted, and demanded she call in another teacher to check the specs on the artillery gun. She finally did, and the man officer agreed that my son was right, and the woman teacher would have killed them all.

His reward for that stepping out and doing the right thing? He did not get the class award and graduated at the bottom of his class despite his perfect record, and saving the lives of his whole squad.

I wonder if a man teacher would have been that stupid and that arrogant not to listen to an honest concern? My son began to realize that the Canadian Armed Forces were totally slanted towards women and francophones after that, when he did not get an officer's commission, because "they filled up the commissions with people from Quebec first."

Now you know why Justin wants to bring our air fighters home. Because he doesn't want any more Quebecers getting killed.

doesn't take much physical strength to squeeze the trigger of a rifle.

 

[prove-all]

Men and women are equal in their spiritual potential,
but vastly different physically and psychologically (1 Peter 3:7).

Ignoring sex differences harms families, military establishments and, ultimately, nations.
Understanding them—and why they were put their by the Creator of male and female

—helps build harmonious societies which strengthen nations.

Though civilian leaders love to speak of the “new warfare” being a tidy, push-button,
technology-driven business, reality has never matched that fiction. War is brutal, physical,
demanding and deadly. Politicians can easily overlook that fact in the midst of relative peace.

They present their views as support for women, but how can their eagerness
to plunge women into the nightmare of warfare be viewed as anything but disregard for women? …

Women face greater danger than men in most combat situations.
Physical limitations make them likelier to be injured, captured or killed. This reality also
endangers the men who are forced to fight alongside them .… And when women are captured,
experience has shown that they are treated far worse—unimaginably worse—than male prisoners of war. …

The military agency that trains pilots in survival, evasion, resistance and escape as prisoners of war
actually includes a component to desensitize male soldiers to the screams of their women cohorts.

 

[Bushido8000]

*230lb soldier get's shot in the leg, looks at 5'3" female soldier*

"You gotta carry me back!"

Female soldier: .....................

 

[p_rehbein]

*230lb soldier get's shot in the leg, looks at 5'3" female soldier*

"You gotta carry me back!"

Female soldier: .....................

uh, you do realize that the female soldier may well weigh as much, if not more? Mayhaps you haven't seen some of the female soldiers who pass the physical tests to get into Combat Roles........

just saying.............

 

[Dude653]

They teach you techniques for carrying a person much heavier than you

 

[p_rehbein]

Wasn't that long ago that the same arguments were made against Women Fire Fighters..........as far as I know, there has not been any major failures of Fire Depts. since women were admitted.

 

[Dude653]

Wasn't that long ago that the same arguments were made against Women Fire Fighters..........as far as I know, there has not been any major failures of Fire Depts. since women were admitted.

The fire will refuse to go out for women.

 

[Desdichado]

C'mon guys. Even the First Order has women in combat roles.

 

[prove-all]

uh, you do realize that the female soldier may well weigh as much, if not more? Mayhaps you haven't seen some of the female soldiers who pass the physical tests to get into Combat Roles........

just saying.............

U.S. Marine Corps spokesman Captain Eric Flanagan stated that 55% of female recruits tested
at the end of boot camp were unable to do three pull-ups as compared to 1 percent of male recruits.

 

[Dude653]

Doesn't take much strength to use a rifle, drive a tank, sweep for explosives, operate radio equipment.

 

[Bushido8000]

uh, you do realize that the female soldier may well weigh as much, if not more? Mayhaps you haven't seen some of the female soldiers who pass the physical tests to get into Combat Roles........

just saying.............

I do, and I have seen these female soldiers and I can tell you that, as a mixed martial artist, a 180lbs woman can't subdue an equally-trained 180lbs man in hand-to-hand combat (yes, hand-to-hand still happens occasionally on the battlefield) 9 times out of 10. A pretty experienced female martial artist would have a difficult time subduing a male who was just slightly bigger than her with no experience. This is common sense. This is why there are men's and women's divisions in every professional sport.

This is why everyone who was in the know was rolling their eyes when Ronda Rousey claimed she could beat every man in her weight division.

Google confrontations between female cops and male suspects to really understand what I mean lol.

when a male suspect hits a male cop, a fight ensues.

When a male suspect hits a female cop, shes out cold.

If women want to kill for our country, cool.

But male troops shouldn't be forced to risk their lives for "battlefield equality"