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pickles

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On the other hand, David prayed, "I hate them who hate Thee O God," so my prayer for some time has been that the Lord will take down this wicked government.
I agree with the wicked goverment, but we need to remember that this nation is the goverment, and voted for who is in representing us.
So I will continue to pray for the salvation of all , and pray against evil.

The good news and our comfort is, we know who has already won! :)

God bless
pickles
 

Nautilus

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Is it bad I view country music artists as more american than pilgrim descendants....
 
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Therapon

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Is it bad I view country music artists as more american than pilgrim descendants....
Well, you are right. The country for which the men of the American Revolution gave their lives no longer exists. We no longer have the godly goals and aspirations of our forefathers. Let me give you just one example: 150 years ago, most churches were never locked, unthinkable. People could go in and pray anytime, day or night, and many people did. Three books were usually chained to the pulpit so nobody could take them, but anyone could read them . . . the Bible, Pilgrim's Progress, and Fox's Book of Martyrs. Few in the church today have even heard of the last two and only a handful have read the first.

So you are indeed right! What used to be a Christian country no longer exists. The Democrat Party didn't try to delete God from their platform. There weren't any crack houses, illegal aliens or so-called welfare programs that destroyed the will of the people and through government handouts made them slaves to the great Bwanna in Washington.

The cover of a new NEWSMAX magazine shows a picture of our august leader with a caption that reads, "The First Muslim President." The latest cover on NEWSWEEK is a picture of Obama, with the caption reading, "The Second Coming." It's blasphemy to imply that some sinful human is Jesus, but nobody seems to care.

You want me to go on?
 
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Therapon

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I agree with the wicked goverment, but we need to remember that this nation is the goverment, and voted for who is in representing us. So I will continue to pray for the salvation of all , and pray against evil.
In some cases, like this Presidential election, new evidence is showing that we didn't get who most of the Americal people voted for.

It is all very noble and sanctified to pray against evil, but in my humble opinion, which probably isn't worth much, naive. We need to pray that the Lord will bring this totally corrupt government down. If you believe I'm way off base and want my reasons, read my earlier post
 

pickles

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In some cases, like this Presidential election, new evidence is showing that we didn't get who most of the Americal people voted for.

It is all very noble and sanctified to pray against evil, but in my humble opinion, which probably isn't worth much, naive. We need to pray that the Lord will bring this totally corrupt government down. If you believe I'm way off base and want my reasons, read my earlier post
Please do not missunderstand, when praying against evil, it is for God's power to crush it.
Just because one does not always give all details, doesnt mean they are not there. :)

God bless
pickles
 
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Rover6x01

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I actually agree with you ... and I voted for him the first time. But he is less corrupt than most politicians, which isn't saying much.


While there is significant evidence for his corruption, and you can certainly find reason to dislike him on any of his policies (pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, anti-gun, just to name a few), you have zero evidence for the above, and I'm really tired of people accusing Obama or anyone of being "anti-Christian" just because they disagree. Not all Christians believe that abortion is murder. Not all Christians believe that non-Christians are going to hell. I can understand that you may disagree -- even vehemently -- with someone who believes these things. And you have the right to disagree. But to call them "anti-Christian" (let alone "non-Christian") just because they disagree with you is really insulting, not just to him, but to Jesus who is Mr. Obama's Lord and Savior as well as yours. I don't think Jesus takes your insults of His children lightly.

Personally, I don't understand how anyone can call oneself a Christian and remain in the Republican party. The party holds too many views that run contrary to the party line. And yet I know hundreds, maybe thousands, of people who love Jesus with all their heart, and yet vote Republican, and support many items on the Republican platform -- those very items that I find incompatible with Jesus' teaching. I don't like it. I disagree with them. And when they let me, I tell them respectfully why I disagree, using Jesus' own words from Scripture. But I will not question their commitment to Christ, or their salvation. That is not for me to decide, nor for any human to decide.

And yes, I know a lot of Democrats who are disrespectful towards Republicans. I call them on it whenever I see it. Two wrongs do not make a right, and retorts such as this have really got to stop ... on BOTH sides.


I don't mind your criticism of his policies. I know he has been less than honest with the American people. You may very well be right about his involvement with and/or his knowledge of the riots last fall. I don't think anyone will ever be able to prove anything one way or another.

I do not begrudge you these comments, to his actions and policies. The only problem I have is when you claim that he is not a Christian, or even worse, as you did, to claim that he is "anti-Christian." With all due respect (and you have very little due, considering your comments), that is NOT your decision to make.

And you shouldn't care whether those who voted for Obama are "happy with you" or not. Nor does it matter if those who did not vote for Obama (as I did not, this second time through) are "happy with you." What matters is what Jesus thinks. And Jesus has made it pretty clear what he thinks of people who try to usurp his power and tell him whom he is allowed to save or not.

I would be a little less concerned about what people who voted one way or another think, and a little more concerned about what Jesus thinks.

TheGrungeDiva

The republican party is closer to Jesus teachings, most do not believe in abortion yet dems believe in LATE TERM ABORTION??? Naive, or brainwashed? Look for the facts not what your TV tells you, PLEASE, everyone needs to see thru the con job before it is to late
 

maxwel

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Cynthia Lee Meyers (cousin of one man who was killed)

If this doesn't make you mad.......................


Cynthia Lee Myers (cousin of one man who was killed) Wanted to share the truth of what happened over in Libya , you will not find this in the media yet but it airs tonight on FNC.....please read....


"Here is my story. A week out the Embassy in Tripoli began receiving multiple tips about an Al Queda cell in the area planning an attack on 9/11 in response to the killing of Bin Laden. For the next several days, the state dept and WH were asked for a security force and were denied at least six times. Ambassador Stevens and his team were given the all clear that The Consulate in Benghazi was safe and there was no need for a security force other than his 3 personal guards (One being my cousin) and a few Libyans who were not armed.

Then the attack and murders occurred. Immediately the WH claimed it was a protest gone bad over a you tube video. Obama made a quick speech in the Rose Garden on Sept.12 before catching a plane to Vegas to campaign. He made a generic statement at the end of his speech after placing the blame on an overheated protest over the video. He said "No act of terror will shake the resolve of America . Later that day and over the next 2 days, the liberal media began saying Ambassador Stevens and the other 3 men died of smoke inhalation. This was not the case. Out of respect for my cousin, I'm not going to be specific about his murder. However Ambassador Stevens was brutally murdered. His genitals were cut off, he was sodomized and beaten and cut and stabbed and burned. He was drug thru the streets and left for dead. This is eyewitness testimony of a local Dr. Who found the Ambassador in a ditch and tried to save his life. He had no idea who he was.

The other 3 men, including my cousin, met similar fates. And deaths due to smoke inhalation is a 100% fabricated LIE. The next week I drove my aunt and Uncle and 2 others to DC to receive his body. We met with Hillary, Panetta, and Susan Rice. ALL of whom apologized and said it was a protest gone bad over a video and exited the area. Next Obama entered with the same story and didn't apologize and wasn't sympathetic. My aunt cried to this man and all he did was hand her flowers and walk away. I tried to get his attention, but didn't. I got upset and yelled liar to him, he kept walking. Then a secret svc agent grabbed my arm and led me to a room where I was held till the proceedings were over.

America, I saw firsthand how cold this man is. What kind of liar he is. Most of you haven't a clue about this tyrant and yet you support him. And act like every word he says is Gospel. These murders and the fast and furious cover ups make water gate look like, a kid who told his bff's secret to the class. We must stop this man, and please pass this story along."

.....and you voted for whom?
Maybe everything Cynthia Lee Meyers says is true.

However, every single thing she says is legally just hearsay.
It won't hold up.
Next, there is not one bit of evidence offered to support anything she says.

Maybe everything she says is true.
But the above story, standing alone with no evidence, is legally useless.

I'm no huge fan of any particular politician,
but we should try to stick to facts and evidence.
 

maxwel

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continued...

I meant to say the FIRST PART of her story is hearsay,
and she doesn't offer any evidence to support it.

Obviously, the rest of her story is a first-hand account.

We can like or dislike Obama, but we need to stick to facts and evidence.
Insulting someone may be telling, and it may reveal unpleasant realities, or even a hidden side of someone... but it's not a crime.
 
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jerusalem

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for the record most americans didn't want to vote because there wasn't a candidate they wanted to vote for. many felt that the choice was no choice but many who did vote tried to chose the lesser of the two evils. do we go with the socialist or the imperialist... which do we have the best chance of out manuevering. and then there were those who realized that the choice was really between plan a or plan b within a group that represented one choice. there are those who don't realize what is going on or what we are up against but unless this country turns back to the one true and living God this country doesnt have a prayer....because God won't listen to it. the powers that be have their own agenda and that is for a one world government run from the u n. nationalism will be a moot point should that take place