Arnold Murray Dead

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homwardbound

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Do you believe Arnold Murray was teaching truth when he promoted the fallcy that Cain was the biological son of satan and Eve?

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

As the above verse shows Adam, was Cains father not satan.

Thanking God you checked it out what Arnold said, Is this not what we are suppose to do, and we will know truth that sets us free.
If one does not check it out anyone's preaching of God, whose fault is that?
Always check it out people always and trust Father who came to live inyou on the very fdirst day you decided to believe God.

Had you not heard this error from Arnold would you not ever read the word to know truth over error? See how God uses evil towards God's good and yours. you were brought in and made wise as a serpent. The problem many do not see the harmless as a dove part, and just go on condemning and commanding, which n ever leads to righteousness, only strife and stress and worrying, causing one to stay in sin
 

homwardbound

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I believe God is the one and only God. I believe he will judge us all equally. And I believe he warns us in his Word that we must be very careful who we allow to teach us because there will be false teachers and the end times are here. So with that said, Do you believe your teacher, who ever he is is teaching truth or do you, as we all should, search for ourselves and only hold to God's word and let it speak for itself rather than believing what some man says?
There is Faith and then there is one's object of Faith, that steals, kills and or destroys or gives life in the Spirit of God, and that is only given through Christ the only perfect flesh that ever walked this earth, is risen ands we are justified through this in Spirit of truth God.

So if I tell you swallowing (faith) makes you live physically and you believe me. Could I feed you poison and you swallow it, will you die?
So the object of one's Faith is vital is it not. So who is to be our teacher man or God personally?
Hebrews 8:11 and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

It starts we here the word, and then if we beleive we search it out and God teaches us truth that sets us free. So if I, you, or anyone else is not free, then maybe I, you and or anyone else might need to re-think their truth that they have adhered to, if still in bondage
For as I found this:
[h=3]Philippians 3:10-11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; [SUP]11 [/SUP]if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

The only way to new life is through the death of the cross, being co-crucified with Christ
 

homwardbound

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Who does all this, is it not God who takes the good work he started in you, and trains and grows you like a flower here today gone tomorrow, oh us all with little Faith Trust, belief in God who took it all upon himself to redeem us in Spirit.
 
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Ridgerunner

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As much as I have listened to Arnold, I came to realize he incorporated The Book of Enoch into Genesis without telling his students he was doing this. The Book of Enoch was believed to be contaminated with illigitmate teachings. It caused me to question alot of where his information was coming from - the validity of his teaching. While much of it was good and some of it valid, it was often embellished to attract an audience. Arnold appeared to have unresolved issues (PTSD) from Korea and possible confusion over fables he heard when he was young. I believe he was doing what he thought was right and made people responsible to check him out. He was driving people into the Bible which appears to have been his goal. Rather than those who are his followers and those who are not should support or attack the man, they need to establish whether he reached the goal he had set. Arnold Murray made Genesis a puzzle. In the end, I decided that God rested on the seventh day to see what Adam and Eve (man) would do. Dennis Murray does not have his father's history - will he continue with this method or not?
 
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Ridgerunner

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Unfortunately, I believe that Arnold Murray's interpretation of Genesis has created a situation where men believe they are justified for abusing women. I truly hope that Dennis Murray stops this Genesis message which demeans women to the degree that men approach women accusing them for the downfall of men. Had Arnold Murray known from the beginning what a tragic effect it would have on the local people in his town, I wonder if he would have kept on degrading women like he did.