BREAKING: France Under Attack. Truck Plows Into Crowd, Killing 30. Gunfire Reported

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Ultimatum77

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He was allowed there because he said he'd be selling cream or something like that.
Europeans are still a bit naive, we tend to think that things like that cannot happen to us. We trust people too much.
(well, I guess I can't speak for all of Europe, but that is my impression).

- Aren't there vehicles in parades where you live? Would you be suspicious of one of those?
Yes but those vehicles are screened by law enforcement with heavy duty equipment.....even if this car was allowed why was the truck not screened? It had grenades and guns in it which would have set off even the weakest metal detector/device.....

I do not know about his motives as I haven't read anything about it yet but the story has some weird quirks that most countries security would have taken precautions....sure none are 100% effective but right now it just seems like really dumb negligence if they allowed this guy in thinking he was an ice cream guy....no permit? no id? no background check via ID? no sweep of his truck with devices? it just seems to weird.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Prenez courage, tenez bon! Ne craignez rien et ne vous laissez pas effrayer par eux, car l'Eternel votre Dieu marche lui-même avec vous, il ne vous délaissera pas et ne vous abandonnera pas.
(Deutéronome 31:6)
 

trofimus

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Bingo. There's a reason why Rumsfeld said he was more interested in the "New Europe"
I dont know. It will not last if western EU will want us to share the consequences of their unwise politics.

We will see, how EU will change after Brexit.
 

trofimus

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That and there is a special historical reason. The French have not been forgiven by the Muslim world since the Battle of Tours. When the crusades were called for, they were mainly financed by French nobility and consisted of largely Francophonic forces.
I dont know, maybe. I think that they hate USA and Israel the most. But that does not matter. They are fanatics, dangerous everywhere where there is a significant number of them.
 

trofimus

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What? Hollande has not declared martial law but NATIONAL DAYS OF MOURNING - big difference. I wish you would watch the news...the lorry was allowed through because the driver said he was delivering food. In Britain it is widely accepted that the French police are useless.
There is a martial law in France from the last year attacks. It was supposed to end this month, but it will be prolonged after this.
 

trofimus

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He was allowed there because he said he'd be selling cream or something like that.
Europeans are still a bit naive, we tend to think that things like that cannot happen to us. We trust people too much.
(well, I guess I can't speak for all of Europe, but that is my impression).

- Aren't there vehicles in parades where you live? Would you be suspicious of one of those?
Maybe the policeman who controlled the truck has name like Muhammad or Ahmed.
Who knows. Its all mixed now.

But the french security was always pathetic, so I am not suprised that during the martial law they did not control the truck headed to crowd, just because the driver said first thing he got in mind.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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There is a martial law in France from the last year attacks. It was supposed to end this month, but it will be prolonged after this.
State of emergency is not the same as martial law.
 

Angela53510

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Maybe the policeman who controlled the truck has name like Muhammad or Ahmed.
Who knows. Its all mixed now.

But the french security was always pathetic, so I am not suprised that during the martial law they did not control the truck headed to crowd, just because the driver said first thing he got in mind.
The truck driver's name was Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel. He was born in Tunisia and was a French citizen. And so far, no organization has taken credit, although ISIS did say in a training video, I think, that people could run a truck into a crowd and kill many people in the name of Allah.
 

RickyZ

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Islamic State is a smoke screen. Destroying Islamic State will not stop these attacks.
A smoke screen for what exactly? I doubt that such attacks would be stopped completely by destroying IS. But IS is the most organised terrorist group to date. They have a great deal of wealth obtained from captured oil fields and access to sophisticated weaponry. With their defeat it may deter some who choose to emulate them. We can only hope.
These groups are most definitely demon inspired. Kill the humans who serve them and the demons will just find more. These groups are nothing more than a tool of satan to get the world to reject ALL religion, including (and especially) the one true one.
 
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Mitspa

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The truck driver's name was Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel. He was born in Tunisia and was a French citizen. And so far, no organization has taken credit, although ISIS did say in a training video, I think, that people could run a truck into a crowd and kill many people in the name of Allah.
Funny the left wing media are desperate not to admit this guy was a radical muslim ...I guess we must call him a moderate? Leftist are insane in their desperate attempt to live in a fantasy PC world.
 
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Mitspa

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Also interesting..just heard on FOX the French people are booing and hissing the French president when he showed up at the hospital to see victims ..because he has not been keeping them safe from these islamist
 

Desdichado

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Also interesting..just heard on FOX the French people are booing and hissing the French president when he showed up at the hospital to see victims ..because he has not been keeping them safe from these islamist
Yep. So much for "pityless war" on ISIS. More like a Bill Clinton -bomb a factory and call it a day- approach.
 

Desdichado

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Every time something like this happens, a Front Nationale victory takes another step in materializing.
 
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Mitspa

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Yep. So much for "pityless war" on ISIS. More like a Bill Clinton -bomb a factory and call it a day- approach.
Yea that government has been caught playing the PC game like ours....Trying to cover-up for Islamic crimes and hiding immigrant attacks on the people.
 

Katy-follower

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This is all a plot of the devil to do us Christians in. People are going to become afraid of Islam (as if they shouldn't be anyway) and it will be outlawed. But so it's not discriminatory, all religion will be outlawed. Including us. That clears the way for the beast to come in as the new god in town. You watch, Christianity will get caught up in the suppression of Islam. That's satan's plan.
Russia is already planning to make evangelism illegal there. The radical muslims are giving Putin an excuse to outcast christian missionaries/evangelists, as if you can associate the two. So it's already happening in Russia.

I believe communism is eventually coming to the world!! I know the papacy is involved also in the end times.
 
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1LonelyKnight

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Russia is already planning to make evangelism illegal there. The radical muslims are giving Putin an excuse to outcast christian missionaries/evangelists, as if you can associate the two. So it's already happening in Russia.

I believe communism is eventually coming to the world!! I know the papacy is involved also in the end times.
And do you offer 'grace' to the liberalism that is Bastille Day - or do you not yet accept that judgment comes as a consequence of actions? Is everyone 'saved' in sin for Baal worship, fornication, homosexuality, greed and other worldliness? When the people came to Jesus worried about corruption in church he related to them the tower of Siloam and asked - were these any different - and replied - no, and unless you repent you also will likwise perish. Paul called the Galatians foolish, worried they were bewitched and warned them of a curse. How long can the license of sin be called grace without falling into the same condemnation of those who practice sin - repent or perish.
 

Desdichado

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Mitspa

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And do you offer 'grace' to the liberalism that is Bastille Day - or do you not yet accept that judgment comes as a consequence of actions? Is everyone 'saved' in sin for Baal worship, fornication, homosexuality, greed and other worldliness? When the people came to Jesus worried about corruption in church he related to them the tower of Siloam and asked - were these any different - and replied - no, and unless you repent you also will likwise perish. Paul called the Galatians foolish, worried they were bewitched and warned them of a curse. How long can the license of sin be called grace without falling into the same condemnation of those who practice sin - repent or perish.
Lots of people claim they speak for Gods judgment for this or that... when is lighting going to strike Hillary?