Breaking News: My Mother Clears Up the transgender bathroom issue for me.

[phil38111]

I was under the impression that TRANSGENDER and TRANSEXUAL basically meant the same thing.
So when obama passed that law, of course I did not agree with it.
I thought that basically this law would let men that want to be women use the women's restroom. And this was disgusting to me. No man no matter how much he wants to be a woman should be allowed to use the women's restroom.

I called my mother to get her opinion on the issue.

She explained to me that transgender and transexual are 2 different things.

A TRANSGENDER person is a person that was born with either both a penis and a vagina. Or they were born with the body of a woman and the genitals of a man and vice versa. These people make up a very small percentage of the humanoid population, less than one percent.

A transexual is a a wannabe. Nuff said on that.

She explained to me that a transgender person can be born with the body of a woman (boobies and everything) and have basic female dna, yet they were born with a penis. And vice versa.






I do not understand why there is a problem with transgender people using the restroom?
What are they supposed to do? Pee their pants?

My mother basically told me that the reason this is even being made a big deal out of, is because politicians are using this as a tactic to get more votes, and distract people from the important issues that go on in our society.

I haven't read the transgender threads on here. But I can almost guess since most people here are Conservative Christains what most of your views are.

So I ask? If a person was born partially male and partially female why do you have a problem with them going to the bathroom of the gender they feel like they are. Because since they were born with both male and female body parts they have to choose one or the other.

 

[phil38111]

I will be respectful to anyone with differing views as long as they are respectful to me. If I am incorrect in what I am saying. Please respectfully tell me what I said that was wrong and why it was wrong. If you choose to call me a left wing nut or post propoganda without addressing what I actually said, and disproving it with a logical argument, then chances are you just don't have an argument. You just want to push your agenda, and proabably know you are wrong yourself. But if you can address what I actually said in my post and prove me wrong, I will stand corrected. I don't have a problem admitting I am wrong. I just don't like to deal with manipulative and fake people. ; )

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Matt Kroczaleski is a man with his God given equipment (a penis) with which he has brought into this world three sons and who has come out as being transgender. He has chosen the name Janae Marie Kroc (while he has all his male parts).

Matt identifies himself as an Alpha male/ girly girl Lesbian in a mans body.

So he feels his inner self is a woman, but a lesbian woman in a mans body.

Not quite sure how that would go, whether he will eventually lose the man parts he has (in order to become the woman he feels he is) and to become a woman in order to be the lesbian he feels he is.

He is allowed in womens bathrooms now (with his man parts on)

But will likely enter a womans bathroom looking more as his new identity,"Janae Marie Kroc" (his new transgender name)

He now is considered a she (being transgender) even while he/she is still physically male.

So he feels like a woman on the inside of himself (but not a woman who desires to have sexual relations with a man) no, rather he feels he is inwardly a woman (but a lesbian woman) a woman who prefers having sexual relations with other women (even as he is capable to have sexual relations with a woman as a man) but in his case he would prefer to do that (with another woman) "in the body of" a woman (not as the male his body still is)

The God given way to have sexual relations with women is being rejected in this transgender type

And he (or rather "she") can share a bathroom with other women (equipped as a man) admittedly as one who still desires women (even as a man physically so but dressed as a woman)

But he is now trangender (took on a womans name) the changes are left to be made, he is not interested in switching sex partners but rather desires "woman on woman" relations.

Thats a different kind of transgender

 

[NotmebutHim]

I always thought that:

1. A person who has both male and female sex organs is a hermaphrodite.

2. A transsexual is someone who is currently undergoing a sex reassignment procedure.

3. A transgender person is one who is biologically male or female, but chooses to identify with the opposite sex (without necessarily undergoing any physical changes).

 

[phil38111]

Matt Kroczaleski is a man with his God given equipment (a penis) with which he has brought into this world three sons and who has come out as being transgender. He has chosen the name Janae Marie Kroc (while he has all his male parts).

Matt identifies himself as an Alpha male/ girly girl Lesbian in a mans body.

So he feels his inner self is a woman, but a lesbian woman in a mans body.

Not quite sure how that would go, whether he will eventually lose the man parts he has (in order to become the woman he feels he is) and to become a woman in order to be the lesbian he feels he is.

He is allowed in womens bathrooms now (with his man parts on)

But will likely enter a womans bathroom looking more as his new identity,"Janae Marie Kroc" (his new transgender name)

He now is considered a she (being transgender) even while he/she is still physically male.

So he feels like a woman on the inside of himself (but not a woman who desires to have sexual relations with a man) no, rather he feels he is inwardly a woman (but a lesbian woman) a woman who prefers having sexual relations with other women (even as he is capable to have sexual relations with a woman as a man) but in his case he would prefer to do that (with another woman) "in the body of" a woman (not as the male his body still is)

The God given way to have sexual relations with women is being rejected in this transgender type

And he (or rather "she") can share a bathroom with other women (equipped as a man) admittedly as one who still desires women (even as a man physically so but dressed as a woman)

But he is now trangender (took on a womans name) the changes are left to be made, he is not interested in switching sex partners but rather desires "woman on woman" relations.

Thats a different kind of transgender

This doesn't even make any sense. So he is a transgender that is attracted to women. But instead of identifying as a man, he wants to identfy as a manly woman that wants to be a man. While most manly lesbians would probably give their left leg to become the real thing, he trades being a man, for being a woman wannabe man. I know this isn't politically correct to say, but IJS. This makes absolutely no sense to me. If anything there is something fishy about this particular transgender person.

 

[phil38111]

I always thought that:

1. A person who has both male and female sex organs is a hermaphrodite.

2. A transsexual is someone who is currently undergoing a sex reassignment procedure.

3. A transgender person is one who is biologically male or female, but chooses to identify with the opposite sex (without necessarily undergoing any physical changes).

You may be right, my mother told me otherwise. I am about to call her on the phone now. I think she may have read a fake news article and thought it was true.

 

[phil38111]

I looked on dictionary.com and you were right. Although hermaphrodites are considered transgender also. Maybe my mother got some bad information from a bad source. i don't agree with trannys going to whatever restroom they want to.

 

[A_Friend_In_Christ]

You must not have a daughter? Do you want him in the restroom doing his business next to her or your wife? Do you want him taking a shower next to them?

People cant see a problem? Wow.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

This doesn't even make any sense. So he is a transgender that is attracted to women. But instead of identifying as a man, he wants to identfy as a manly woman that wants to be a man. While most manly lesbians would probably give their left leg to become the real thing, he trades being a man, for being a woman wannabe man. I know this isn't politically correct to say, but IJS. This makes absolutely no sense to me. If anything there is something fishy about this particular transgender person.

He is a man, who feels like a woman (inside his male body) but not just any woman but a lesbian woman. So he isnt a homosexual (which desires his own kind) in his body (as it is) but seeks to be one, and get out of his male body to become a woman (he was not born to be) who still prefers other women as a man should (but just not in his male body which was meant for a woman). Yeah, he is considered a transgender who is a "she" now (and has legally changed his name to a womans name to identify as the same) while still fully equipped as a man.

It pretty much boggles my mind too.

 

[phil38111]

https://baptistnews.com/2016/05/13/...ut-transgender-persons/#.VzYyCJDl3BV.facebook

here is the article my mother read. i haven't read it yet but here it is.

 

[phil38111]

You must not have a daughter? Do you want him in the restroom doing his business next to her or your wife? Do you want him taking a shower next to them?

People cant see a problem? Wow.

you must not know how to read. read my post then get back at me.

 

[phil38111]

He is a man, who feels like a woman (inside his male body) but not just any woman but a lesbian woman. So he isnt a homosexual (which desires his own kind) in his body (as it is) but seeks to be one, and get out of his male body to become a woman (he was not born to be) who still prefers other women as a man should (but just not in his male body which was meant for a woman). Yeah, he is considered a transgender who is a "she" now (and has legally changed his name to a womans name to identify as the same) while still fully equipped as a man.

It pretty much boggles my mind too.

he belongs in the men's room

 

[phil38111]

When I made my post. I was talking about hermaphrodites. Not gays and trannys that want to use whatever restroom they want to.

 

[Oncefallen]

https://baptistnews.com/2016/05/13/...ut-transgender-persons/#.VzYyCJDl3BV.facebook

here is the article my mother read. i haven't read it yet but here it is.

Unfortunately the author portrays hermaphroditism (intersex) and transgenderism as being the same thing which they are most definitely not. Hermaphroditism is a naturally occurring and medically diagnosable genetic condition whereas transgenderism is not.

2. What you see is not always what you get. For the vast majority of humanity, the presence of male or female genitalia corresponds to whether a person is male or female. What you see is what you are. But for a small part of humanity (something less than 1 percent), the visible parts and the inner identity do not line up. For example, it is possible to be born with male genitalia but female chromosomes or vice versa. And now brain research has demonstrated that it also is possible to be born with female genitalia, female chromosomes but a male brain. Most of us hit the jackpot upon birth with all three factors lining up like cherries on a slot machine: Our anatomy, chromosomes and brain cells all correspond as either male or female. But some people are born with variations in one or two of these indicators.

 

[phil38111]

Unfortunately the author portrays hermaphroditism (intersex) and transgenderism as being the same thing which they are most definitely not. Hermaphroditism is a naturally occurring and medically diagnosable genetic condition whereas transgenderism is not.

That's where the confusion lies. My mother was apparently misinformed by the article, which is why I was misinformed by her, which is why I made this thread. Feel free to delete the thread, it is just a waste of space.

 

[Oncefallen]

That's where the confusion lies. My mother was apparently misinformed by the article, which is why I was misinformed by her, which is why I made this thread. Feel free to delete the thread, it is just a waste of space.

I'll actually let the discussion carry on. You and your mother are not the only persons who have been misinformed about transgenderism and IMO if others have their misconception corrected also the thread is far from a waste.

 

[breno785au]

I showed my wife this and explained this Matt guy to her. She said if she walked into a public bathroom and he was in there, she would hold it and go home to the toilet.

 

[Mitspa]

The whole mix-up thing at birth represents less than 1% of the folks that are calling themselves "trans" whatever ... I think all of us could find a place to understand folks born with both male and female parts ..But what we have going on in our society and in the world is a blatant attempt to pervert every standard and any sense of morality that God would have us live by.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

There was also that man Wolscht. He was a 52 year old man (who was even married) who had six kids (so obviously born with all his male equipment) who believes himself to be (inwardly) female. So he decides to take on that female identity. But this man adds even more strangeness into the mix (which we can probably come to expect) he not only believes himself to be a woman (wrongly assigned a man) but he also believes himself to be a 6 year old little girl (wrongly assigned more years on the earth) "somehow"

Those years must have never happened (?)

Or maybe he feels stuck in a place where he feels himself mature enough to make all these big changes to himself.

But ofcourse he (as a very young she) still wants to drive a car (even at such a young age) and still have sex (with full grown adults) in his true age.

Family man (husband) and father into the next delusion

To this

I dont know any six year old children who dress like that, but what I do know is that women have been known to dress themselves up "as little school girls" in a sexual role playing situation to serve certain mens mans lust for having sex with schoolgirls or children (whichever)

That just seems far more evident and speaks to the perverse nature of some of these in the transgender community.

Equipped as men (dressed as women) have been reported to have raped children

15 year old girl raped by transgender woman

Girl, 15, raped by transgender woman - Telegraph

And yet here is a story on the same man (dressed as a woman) who raped a female (who obviously hadnt had the change yet) who was charged for this crime and some pause given to sending him to a male prison (versus a female prison) when he obviously raped a woman (why on earth the question?)

A story on the same transgender man (legally a woman with male parts) who had raped a 15 year old girl has an issue is raised in this report concerning sending he/she (with male parts) to a male prison where he/she could be victimized the same way he victimized a child.

Transgender woman who raped girl before transition sent to male prison | UK news | The Guardian

 

[breno785au]

This doesn't even make any sense. So he is a transgender that is attracted to women. But instead of identifying as a man, he wants to identfy as a manly woman that wants to be a man. While most manly lesbians would probably give their left leg to become the real thing, he trades being a man, for being a woman wannabe man. I know this isn't politically correct to say, but IJS. This makes absolutely no sense to me. If anything there is something fishy about this particular transgender person.

To simplify things, he's a cross dressing heterosexual.