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And it's quite obvious you like tintin, which is French-ish? Though from a Belgian cartoonist. :p
I've seen the Château that inspired Marlinspike Hall...it's beautiful!!!!
Ah, awesome! Yes, I'm a huge fan of Tintin and have been for most of my life. In the early days of enjoying the albums though, I didn't realise the books were originally written in French, because the English translators had done such a great job. I'd love to visit places like the Chateau and the Herge Museum. We don't even have a Tintin Shop here in Australia. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Interesting... it took a year for the waters to drain? do you have a reference for that? Not looking to debate I've just never heard that before but it makes sense.
No, no. The waters covered the earth for a little over 1 year. It took about 2.5 months for the earth to dry out enough for Noah, his family and the animals to exit the Ark without sliding around everywhere in the thick mud. Here's a cool graphic that shows the timeline of the Flood.

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https://visualunit.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ark_gen6-91.jpg
 
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Cool graphic. Guess I had heard that before - been a looong time since I reviewed it. Went ahead and read the actual scriptures. Thanks for the refresher class!



Now, back to the regularly schedule terrorism thread ;) (what a derailer I am!)
 
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Did you learn how to insult people from your French husband or did it require a class at the university?

I know quite a bit more about how the world works than you, child. I spent ten years working for an international conservation corps. We had volunteers from over 35 different countries. It was a constant struggle to get proper visas. We once had a French volunteer charged with sexual assault while he was out one night in Santa Cruz, California. The local news covered the story and it involved the French Embassy. His parents flew in from France to attempt to bribe authorities into letting them take their wayward son home.

I doubt we would leave the U.S. as a result of a terrorist attack in Washington D.C. We live over 2000 miles away. In the same way living in Detroit is 100 times more dangerous than living in Boise, if you moved to a small French town in the country, you'd be many times safer than living in Paris. The terrorists don't win when people take precautions. Besides, Paris, like most large international cities, is crowded and dirty and noisy.

If we left the U.S., as we have often discussed, it would likely be to settle down in Ecuador or Panama or Costa Rica. They embrace expats. Your comment about us not going nowhere is about as foolish as most of your comments. Americans retire in Central and South America every day.

We have superior healthcare to yours and for both of us we pay $34.90 per month. We both get dental for an additional $21.32, and vision for $14.62.Now, tell us what the French tax rates are like. I believe they hit close to 90% for some. I guess someone has to pay for socialized health care, other than you. If I ever decide to see what anti-Semitism looks like up close, I'll consider a trip to Paris. For now, I'll pass.

BAHAHAHA you're so full of yourself. You see, in France we do taxes right. The rich are taxed more than the middle income and poor income families. And no, there is no 90% tax for some...LOL! The most anyone get's hit with is 50% and that's for the insanely rich.
Yeah, you pay so and so a month...but how much is your deductible? I know you don't get free healthcare for only paying $34.90 a month.
I can't believe you are even going to say that you have superior insurance compared to me...please, just stop with that. I can find you THOUSANDS of list's and a lot of data that places France as number 1 for the best health insurance in the world. The US is ranked around 37th or 36th...so no, you don't have superior health insurance compared to me. Don't believe me, go look it up.

The 36 Best Healthcare Systems In The World - Business Insider

You can flip through that if you want, give you a head start there buddy.

Oh and it isn't the employee paying for healthcare in France...it's the employer. When someone is hired, the company pays a net amount to the employee but then also pays into the sécu...so, unless there are retired expats paying into the system or someone has a lot of money and they aren't working but are paying into the system, then the employees themselves don't pay for it...the employment does. We then have mutuelle's but those are only 20 euros a month. And while some income taxes are used for the health insurance, a large majority of it ISN'T. Do NOT even try to argue with me about this, I live and work here, and I've had an extensive class, with other expats, so we can learn about how it all works because French taxes, sécu, et cetera is quite complicated.
Beside the great healthcare here, France has a high amount of paid maternity leave...the only thing most women have in the US is job security, if they fall under certain categories that is. I think less than 5% of women in the US has paid maternity leave...

Great, go to South or Central America...(even though it is arguable about Panama being North or Central America) but great on you. Of course they want you there, they want your money honey...because they're poorer countries. Not sure when you last worked with visa's but a lot has changed in the past 15 years...so...
 
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Cool graphic. Guess I had heard that before - been a looong time since I reviewed it. Went ahead and read the actual scriptures. Thanks for the refresher class!

Now, back to the regularly schedule terrorism thread ;) (what a derailer I am!)
No worries, brother. It's always a good time to talk about Noah and the Ark. :)
 
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Ah, awesome! Yes, I'm a huge fan of Tintin and have been for most of my life. In the early days of enjoying the albums though, I didn't realise the books were originally written in French, because the English translators had done such a great job. I'd love to visit places like the Chateau and the Herge Museum. We don't even have a Tintin Shop here in Australia. Thanks for sharing.
Yes! So if you ever come to France, go to the Loire-Valley, it's so beautiful there. My husband grew up near the Château (it's this place A delight for people of all ages! ) and I did a BIG double take when I saw it the first time. I made him pull over and I sat in the car for the longest time trying to figure out where I had seen it before and Voilà!!! The adventurers of Tin Tin. My husband was quite amused that it took me so long. I was sneaking around the place to get pictures and finally got to go in when we went back to visit his family another time!
 
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Did you learn how to insult people from your French husband or did it require a class at the university?

I know quite a bit more about how the world works than you, child. I spent ten years working for an international conservation corps. We had volunteers from over 35 different countries. It was a constant struggle to get proper visas. We once had a French volunteer charged with sexual assault while he was out one night in Santa Cruz, California. The local news covered the story and it involved the French Embassy. His parents flew in from France to attempt to bribe authorities into letting them take their wayward son home.

I doubt we would leave the U.S. as a result of a terrorist attack in Washington D.C. We live over 2000 miles away. In the same way living in Detroit is 100 times more dangerous than living in Boise, if you moved to a small French town in the country, you'd be many times safer than living in Paris. The terrorists don't win when people take precautions. Besides, Paris, like most large international cities, is crowded and dirty and noisy.

If we left the U.S., as we have often discussed, it would likely be to settle down in Ecuador or Panama or Costa Rica. They embrace expats. Your comment about us not going nowhere is about as foolish as most of your comments. Americans retire in Central and South America every day.

We have superior healthcare to yours and for both of us we pay $34.90 per month. We both get dental for an additional $21.32, and vision for $14.62.Now, tell us what the French tax rates are like. I believe they hit close to 90% for some. I guess someone has to pay for socialized health care, other than you. If I ever decide to see what anti-Semitism looks like up close, I'll consider a trip to Paris. For now, I'll pass.
And I'm not trying to insult you...we may disagree on Muslims and refugee's but I'm not trying to be a turd with you but you can't try to act like you know more than me about certain things, like living in France and the healthcare system...
 
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Explosive Belt Found in Paris Suburb - NBC News

Ugh...this was near my friends place. I'm not going to act all brave...but I definitely have my moments when I jump while walking home because I hear something...and it's just a leaf from the wind. So, a bit of us are still on panic. I do notice people starting to sit outside of café's again but still...and to see Brussels like on lock down! I love that little city. :(

I've also been seeing the military out and about. People are always weary when they're around.
 
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Sorry to interrupt the the topic of this conversation, but I noticed your name and saw your profile. You speak 3 languages?!! Ugh! Is your mother tongue English? If so, can I message you for advice on learning languages? It was really tough for me to get to a sort of intermediate level of French, even though I studied everyday. French grammar almost killed me, lol. So, if you have any ideas on how I can excel even more in French, then I would love to speak to you about it! :D
Yep, mother tongue is English. Sure thing! My inbox is open any time :)
 
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Explosive Belt Found in Paris Suburb - NBC News

Ugh...this was near my friends place. I'm not going to act all brave...but I definitely have my moments when I jump while walking home because I hear something...and it's just a leaf from the wind. So, a bit of us are still on panic. I do notice people starting to sit outside of café's again but still...and to see Brussels like on lock down! I love that little city. :(

I've also been seeing the military out and about. People are always weary when they're around.
Sounds great to live in place where your so afraid...right?

Ouestion..do you ever think these people are going to not be planning on killing you people over there? Do you really think if you play the PC game with them they are going to change?
 
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Ah, awesome! Yes, I'm a huge fan of Tintin and have been for most of my life. In the early days of enjoying the albums though, I didn't realise the books were originally written in French, because the English translators had done such a great job. I'd love to visit places like the Chateau and the Herge Museum. We don't even have a Tintin Shop here in Australia. Thanks for sharing.
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OOPS,, sorry, wrong TIN TIN :(
 
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BAHAHAHA you're so full of yourself. You see, in France we do taxes right. The rich are taxed more than the middle income and poor income families. And no, there is no 90% tax for some...LOL! The most anyone get's hit with is 50% and that's for the insanely rich.
Yeah, you pay so and so a month...but how much is your deductible? I know you don't get free healthcare for only paying $34.90 a month.
I can't believe you are even going to say that you have superior insurance compared to me...please, just stop with that. I can find you THOUSANDS of list's and a lot of data that places France as number 1 for the best health insurance in the world. The US is ranked around 37th or 36th...so no, you don't have superior health insurance compared to me. Don't believe me, go look it up.

The 36 Best Healthcare Systems In The World - Business Insider

You can flip through that if you want, give you a head start there buddy.

Oh and it isn't the employee paying for healthcare in France...it's the employer. When someone is hired, the company pays a net amount to the employee but then also pays into the sécu...so, unless there are retired expats paying into the system or someone has a lot of money and they aren't working but are paying into the system, then the employees themselves don't pay for it...the employment does. We then have mutuelle's but those are only 20 euros a month. And while some income taxes are used for the health insurance, a large majority of it ISN'T. Do NOT even try to argue with me about this, I live and work here, and I've had an extensive class, with other expats, so we can learn about how it all works because French taxes, sécu, et cetera is quite complicated.
Beside the great healthcare here, France has a high amount of paid maternity leave...the only thing most women have in the US is job security, if they fall under certain categories that is. I think less than 5% of women in the US has paid maternity leave...

Great, go to South or Central America...(even though it is arguable about Panama being North or Central America) but great on you. Of course they want you there, they want your money honey...because they're poorer countries. Not sure when you last worked with visa's but a lot has changed in the past 15 years...so...


Isn't France socialist? The rich are taxed higher here too. I'm from Canada where it's said they have "free" health care.We pay a blended tax of 15% in the province where I'm from. So I wouldn't consider it "free". The tax in the state where I live now is around 6%. Nothing is free.
 

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It doesn't stop...

The Jerusalem Post

ROUBAIX, France - Armed men have taken hostages after gun shots were fired in the northern French town of Roubaix, a police source said on Tuesday.

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It was not immediately clear whether the gunmen were linked to the attacks in Paris on Nov. 13.

"An operation is underway after hostages were taken. Gunshots were fired and the neighborhood has been cordoned off," the source told Reuters. "A bank director and his family may have been taken as hostages."

Medical and fire services confirmed that an operation was underway in Roubaix, which is near the border with Belgium, without giving further details.
 
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Isn't France socialist? The rich are taxed higher here too. I'm from Canada where it's said they have "free" health care.We pay a blended tax of 15% in the province where I'm from. So I wouldn't consider it "free". The tax in the state where I live now is around 6%. Nothing is free.
I already explained how it worked. Of course it isn't absolutely free, but when you look at the US, with it's cost of insurance and it's cost of care, France is practically free. I needed surgery when I went back to the US to get my visa this March. Well, come to find out, for a 15 minute surgery, I was going to be charged $12,000 in all. In France, without insurance, it was the equivalent of $800. I kid you not. With the sécu and the €20 monthly mutuelle, it would have been completely covered...and the only thing it would have cost us was that 20 euros.
It's really hard to explain the system here, and there are times that my head just spins from it all but I do enjoy the cheaper healthcare here and free Uni. My future children will not be beat down in debt for their education.
 
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I already explained how it worked. Of course it isn't absolutely free, but when you look at the US, with it's cost of insurance and it's cost of care, France is practically free. I needed surgery when I went back to the US to get my visa this March. Well, come to find out, for a 15 minute surgery, I was going to be charged $12,000 in all. In France, without insurance, it was the equivalent of $800. I kid you not. With the sécu and the €20 monthly mutuelle, it would have been completely covered...and the only thing it would have cost us was that 20 euros.
It's really hard to explain the system here, and there are times that my head just spins from it all but I do enjoy the cheaper healthcare here and free Uni. My future children will not be beat down in debt for their education.
Lady ...someone paid for your healthcare .... The idea of free-loading on others is not a biblical principal nor an American Tradition .... socialism never has worked and never will...France may have enough credit now to pay for your healthcare..but one day the bill will come due and Greece is the end result of socialism.
 
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You see, in France we do taxes right. The rich are taxed more than the middle income and poor income families. And no, there is no 90% tax for some...LOL! The most anyone get's hit with is 50% and that's for the insanely rich.

I can't believe you are even going to say that you have superior insurance compared to me...please, just stop with that. I can find you THOUSANDS of list's and a lot of data that places France as number 1 for the best health insurance in the world. The US is ranked around 37th or 36th...so no, you don't have superior health insurance compared to me. Don't believe me, go look it up.

The 36 Best Healthcare Systems In The World - Business Insider

You can flip through that if you want, give you a head start there buddy.

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Who is the "we" who is doing taxes right in France? Are you currently working for the French government?

And no, there is no 90% tax for some...LOL! The most anyone get's hit with is 50% and that's for the insanely rich.
Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income.

Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income: paper | Reuters


I can find you THOUSANDS of list's and a lot of data that places France as number 1 for the best health insurance in the world.
I'll settle for 100. Please post 100 lists.

The link you posted is curious because it was from the WHO. It was a 15 year old study where the WHO did no research at all. They asked the countries for data and assumed it was accurate. It wasn't. But I'm sure you can find thousands of other studies that support your beliefs, so please do.



France's Health-Care System Is Going Broke

France's Health-Care System Is Going Broke - Businessweek

You fail to understand the French economy. The U.S. economy is growing at only 2%. That is unacceptable. The French economy is growing at .4%. They are doomed if they can't improve their economy. Their healthcare system is going to collapse as a result of the lousy economy.

The government projects the health-care system’s 2013 shortfall will be about €5.1 billion, down from €11.6 billion in 2010. Yet that forecast may be optimistic, since it’s based on the assumption that the economy will grow 0.8 percent—double the European Commission’s estimate. France’s system “is simply unaffordable, unsustainable, and the manner in which it’s financed is a huge burden on the economy,”
As to life expectancy rates people often quote in an attempt to say life expectancy is the result of healthcare, it isn't. Women live longer than men and have the same healthcare. When people criticize U.S. healthcare, saying people in the U.S. do not live as long as people in Japan, they simply do not understand what they are talking about. People in the U.S. have the finest healthcare in the world and live longer than anyone else as a result. Ok, you'll need an explanation because the simple numbers do not bare that out. No, they don't. Here is why; A lot of Americans are fat, or rather obese. So much so the CDC has had to add additional categories to rate the level of obesity in the U.S. Overweight, obese, morbidly obese, super morbidly obese and not long ago, I think they added super super morbidly obese. Over 15 years ago there were over 1 million people in the U.S. weighing over 400 pounds. Today it could be double.

What I'm getting at is those people skew the statistics. If you had 70% of Americans living to the age of 90, and 30% of Americans dying at 50 because they were morbidly obese and had a heart attack, look what it does to those life expectancy charts. It puts the average right at 78 years life expectancy, despite the fact that people who are not obese are living to 90 years of age. We know most other countries do not have the level of obesity as the U.S., so their life expectancies are not being drug down by that segment of their population. Is this clear? Good. Glad to help educate people who spend their time searching the internet for only bogus studies that support their false beliefs.

Oh, our deductible on our healthcare is $500. Very reasonable. People signed up on Obamacare are seeing much higher premiums and deductibles. And like with healthcare in France, Obamacare is not sustainable and will collapse.

 
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Lady ...someone paid for your healthcare .... The idea of free-loading on others is not a biblical principal nor an American Tradition .... socialism never has worked and never will...France may have enough credit now to pay for your healthcare..but one day the bill will come due and Greece is the end result of socialism.

Right! That was my point.Like Thatcher once said of socialism "eventually you run out of other peoples money.
 
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Lady ...someone paid for your healthcare .... The idea of free-loading on others is not a biblical principal nor an American Tradition .... socialism never has worked and never will...France may have enough credit now to pay for your healthcare..but one day the bill will come due and Greece is the end result of socialism.
Dude, I've done told you that someone pays for it...the employers...deeeeerrrrp.
 
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Who is the "we" who is doing taxes right in France? Are you currently working for the French government?



Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income.

Taxes on some wealthy French top 100 pct of income: paper | Reuters




I'll settle for 100. Please post 100 lists.

The link you posted is curious because it was from the WHO. It was a 15 year old study where the WHO did no research at all. They asked the countries for data and assumed it was accurate. It wasn't. But I'm sure you can find thousands of other studies that support your beliefs, so please do.



France's Health-Care System Is Going Broke

France's Health-Care System Is Going Broke - Businessweek

You fail to understand the French economy. The U.S. economy is growing at only 2%. That is unacceptable. The French economy is growing at .4%. They are doomed if they can't improve their economy. Their healthcare system is going to collapse as a result of the lousy economy.



As to life expectancy rates people often quote in an attempt to say life expectancy is the result of healthcare, it isn't. Women live longer than men and have the same healthcare. When people criticize U.S. healthcare, saying people in the U.S. do not live as long as people in Japan, they simply do not understand what they are talking about. People in the U.S. have the finest healthcare in the world and live longer than anyone else as a result. Ok, you'll need an explanation because the simple numbers do not bare that out. No, they don't. Here is why; A lot of Americans are fat, or rather obese. So much so the CDC has had to add additional categories to rate the level of obesity in the U.S. Overweight, obese, morbidly obese, super morbidly obese and not long ago, I think they added super super morbidly obese. Over 15 years ago there were over 1 million people in the U.S. weighing over 400 pounds. Today it could be double.

What I'm getting at is those people skew the statistics. If you had 70% of Americans living to the age of 90, and 30% of Americans dying at 50 because they were morbidly obese and had a heart attack, look what it does to those life expectancy charts. It puts the average right at 78 years life expectancy, despite the fact that people who are not obese are living to 90 years of age. We know most other countries do not have the level of obesity as the U.S., so their life expectancies are not being drug down by that segment of their population. Is this clear? Good. Glad to help educate people who spend their time searching the internet for only bogus studies that support their false beliefs.

Oh, our deductible on our healthcare is $500. Very reasonable. People signed up on Obamacare are seeing much higher premiums and deductibles. And like with healthcare in France, Obamacare is not sustainable and will collapse.

1. Do not use Reuters for "reliable" source. That's just a joke.
2. Since you're so lazy to use those bias little fingers (but you sure aren't lazy to talk a bunch of crap to me), here is a link to a google search. Select as you will.
3.I don't know why I'm even trying to explain this to you when I have been told just recently, by many members, that you're a troll and have been banned from this site before. So, good luck hard head