Breaking : Shooting In San Bernardino CA

[Desdichado]

Let me try saying this another way... 2015 years of stuff happening. Not just Islam. Lets stop trying to nitpick.. Evil is evil and evil is going to continue to happen until Jesus does return. Who knows when that'll be.

Islam is a very persistent kind of evil though. You figure between the initial expansion of Islam combined with the Turkish assaults on Eastern Europe and occasionally Western Europe, we have a good, ehhhhhhh 1000 years of a Muslim war on the world, particularly the West.

That doesn't include war with the Barbary States (radical Muslims) which forced even our earlier presidents to see it as a threat. Ottoman rule was generally brutal up until the fall of the Empire in the aftermath of WWI.

Islam is generally a war-making religion. Born in war. Expanded by war. Perpetuated by war-like actions. While its most radical forms are not a threat for 100% of history after Christ, Nazism is an aberration by comparison.

Or allow me to explain it this way, if you are any sort of Westerner, Islam, left unchecked by strength of arms and principle, will seek to dominate you. It may lie dormant...but it's still there.

 

[Mitspa]

Every generation has evil manifest in their time...75 years ago it was the Nazis and communist ...now its Islam and liberalism that protects and promotes evil as it corrupts our society at the very core.

 

[Desdichado]

Just think of how short history is... John Smith was a mercenary who fought Turks on behalf of the Hapsburg throne and other nations in the region. That is before he sailed to Virginia.

The Siege of Vienna occurred about fifty years after the first Americans in my family landed on our shores. It may sound strange, but these people are quite dear to me. Through family accounts and simply what I've read, I feel as though I know some of them intimately and they lived concurrently with the highest tide of Islam since the Battle of Tours.

 

[p_rehbein]

Was listening to these two Lawyers hired by the family of poor old misunderstood Farook...........they are DUMMIES!

 

[proverbs35]

Was listening to these two Lawyers hired by the family of poor old misunderstood Farook...........they are DUMMIES!

Well, I haven't listened to it, but I can imagine. It reminds me of the Boston marathon bombing where they painted the younger terrorist as just being led astray by his older brother.

 

[proverbs35]

I posted this on the Clock boy sues Irving TX for $15 Million thread, but I think it's relevant to this conversation too.

Can you imagine how many terrorist attacks he could fund with $15 million dollars? My point is I think a lot of these muslims have a greater, more radical agenda behind their antics.

 

[kaylagrl]

From a Blog By Daniel Greenfield.I think he makes some great points.

Protecting Ourselves from the Next Peaceful Massacre


A few weeks before Syed Farook went on his ritual killing spree in San Bernardino, he got into an argument about Islam with one of the co-workers he later murdered.

The co-worker said that Islam wasn't peaceful. Farook said it was.

Like most Islamic theological arguments, this was one was settled with bombs and bullets.

The motive is officially still unknown. Obama said it might be terrorism or a workplace thing. His laughably corrupt Attorney General, Loretta Lynch said, "We don't know if this was workplace rage or something larger or a combination of both."

The kind of workplace rage that leads a couple to assemble a small army's worth of firepower, some bombs and tactical gear, destroy their cell phones and carry out a massacre all within 20 minutes.

This story is brought to you by the same people who insisted that the assault on the Benghazi compound conducted with heavy firepower was really a spontaneous movie review.

Farook's father said, “He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back.” Neighbors say that he "grew a beard and started to wear religious clothing. The long shirt that’s like a dress and the cap on his head.” Neighbors noticed something was wrong, but they were afraid to "profile" him. That might be Islamophobic. And it's better to let Americans die than be thought a bigot. That's the policy in Washington D.C. and over in the Redlands in California.
So his motive remains a mystery wrapped in an enigma and tucked inside an IED. We could speculate, but that would be Islamophobic. All we can do is shoot back once the latest perpetrators of workplace violence have killed enough people that killing them no longer seems disproportionate.

Syed Farook sought his soulmate in "a girl who has the same outlook, wear hijab, but live the life to the fullest." And in a cult of death, living life to the fullest means taking the lives of others.
Farook, as his dating profile said, came from a “religios but modern family of 4”. And you can tell they were modern because they used guns, not swords.

When the Redlands Tea Party Patriots objected to the resettling of Syrian Muslim migrants in their community, CAIR accused them of “paranoia and phobia is rooted in a combination of ignorance and bigotry.”

But “paranoia and phobia” are the modern condition that the free world has found itself living in. Islamic terrorism can strike anytime and anywhere from a Paris concert hall to a San Bernardino County facility where disabled children were being helped. It’s ignorance to ignore that and bigotry to defend it.

“What will be done to ensure the safety of our community? Our biggest concern is the safety of our family, our children and our grandchildren,” Victoria Hargrave of Redlands Townhall had asked.

It was a good question. As the country watched police charge towards a home in the Redlands, it has become an even better question.

Everything possible was done to deny Nidal Hassan’s terrorist motivations in the Fort Hood Massacre. His attack was deemed workplace violence. Even his own attempts to explain that he supported the terrorists were shut down so that he was reduced to smuggling messages to get his story out.

And despite multiple statements by Hassan that he was a terrorist, the official story is still workplace violence. Right after the shooting, it was some strain of airborne PTSD that had somehow transmitted itself from American veterans to the Muslim employee who had never seen combat until he began killing them.

There are always excuses.

The Times Square bomber had financial issues. The Tsarnaev terrorists were poorly adjusted. Once the media digs into Farouk’s life, it will no doubt find that he had financial issues, was poorly adjusted and may have even been suffering from some mysterious form of airborne PTSD.

Obama and the media would like to make this story about “gun violence”. But guns don’t shoot themselves. There is a hand that pulls the trigger and a mind whose foul purposes that hand serves.

Gun violence is not a mechanical problem. It is not a hardware problem of guns going off at random. It is not a biological problem of fingers randomly twitching on triggers. It is a problem of the mind.

Behind each massacre, there is a mind. And it is that mind, its ideas and its beliefs, that kills.

San Bernardino is home to what is described as a “growing Muslim population” and that growth comes with terrifying growing pains.

This latest attack appears to be one of them.

It’s a matter of simple math that as the population most likely to commit terrorist acts increases, so do the acts themselves.

Two months ago, Marilyn Snyder of the Redlands Tea Party Patriots wrote of “the runners and spectators of the Boston Marathon who never imagined that refugee jihadists were stealthily plotting their demise — just because they were not Muslims.”

Most people in San Bernardino County did not expect that anyone was plotting to kill them. They did not think that one evening the events from far-off France would suddenly be taking place where they lived. And yet that is the new reality.

Islamic terrorism can strike anywhere and everywhere.

“While it is impossible to prevent death delivered by madmen who kill because of religious extremism, it is possible to put in place federal policies that limit the influx of Muslim extremists through the wide-open refugee doors of the Obama administration,” Marilyn wrote.

That remains true.

Sayeed Farouk, like Nidal Hassan, did not suddenly fly over here from Syria. But that only makes it more vital that we prevent the next attack and the next massacre by closing the doors and keeping our country safe.

We cannot bring back the dead, the victims of the long horrifying roll of Islamic terror that stretches back for thousands of years, but we can protect the living.

The left approaches this as a mechanical problem, but it’s an ideological problem. It’s a conflict between two sets of ideas and two sets of worldviews. It is a war between those who believe that men must be ruled by the dead will of Mohammed and his brutal successors and those of us who believe in the freedom of our founding documents and the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It is not a war that we will win through appeasement or disarmament. And we can begin to fight back by protecting ourselves and our country.

“We Redlanders and all Americans need to stand up with “common sense and judgment” with an emphatic “No!” to Syrian refugee resettlement. It’s time to bar the doors against jihadi infiltration,” Marilyn wrote.

From Redland to Paris, it’s time that we did the right thing, for our towns, our cities and our country.



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[jsr1221]

I'm an online master's student for this school, and I saw that the local news station in my city covered this.. Thought this would be appropriate to post.

http://www.wptv.com/news/national/liberty-university-president-urges-students-to-arm-selves_45535943

 

[Sirk]

Can hear the mantra of the left and of Muslims now....."you are just not educated about the muslim faith".....blah blah blah.

 

[Sirk]

I posted this in another thread because it occurred to me that... if the people calling for an end to hate speech really wanted to end their golden calf of so called hate speech, they would be calling for the closing of every mosque in America. As it is...they are liars and they really want to put an end to being able to express Christian principles and ideas. The crazy thing is there are "christians" on this very site who repeat the lies of modern liberalism.

 

[crossnote]

I'm an online master's student for this school, and I saw that the local news station in my city covered this.. Thought this would be appropriate to post.

Liberty University president urges students to arm selves - wptv.com

Good for them.

 

[Utah]

they really want to put an end to being able to express Christian principles and ideas.

Exactly. The satanic Left in this country hate God, hate us, and are fully attempting to enslave us. Make no mistake about it, we will one day have civil unrest like there was 1861.

 

[PennEd]

My heart is sick with the media in this country:

[h=1]NY Daily News: San Bernardino Christian Deserved to Die in Terror Attack – So Does Pamela Geller[/h]Jim Hoft Dec 6th, 2015 8:26 am 50 Comments
This liberal rag has lost it’s mind…
On Wednesday after the San Bernardino terrorist attacks by a devout Muslim couple several Republicans asked for prayers.
The New York Daily News attacked Republicans – for asking for prayers.
Sick.

On Friday they doubled-down…
This time the New York Daily News labeled NRA Chief Wayne LaPierre a terrorist.
Because he supports the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

Today the New York Daily News wrote the reformed Christian at the San Bernardino office deserved to die.
He had it coming — And Pamela Geller should die too.
By Linda Stasi–

​

They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.
One man spent his free time writing frightening, NRA-loving, hate-filled screeds on Facebook about the other’s religion.
The other man quietly stewed and brewed his bigotry, collecting the kind of arsenal that the Facebook poster would have envied.
What they didn’t realize is that except for their different religions they were in many ways similar men who even had the same job.
One man, the Muslim, was a loser who had to travel all the way to Pakistan to get himself an email bride. (I refuse to add to their fame by using the killer and his murderous wife’s names.)
That wife radicalized him and fueled his hatred. The FBI is investigating her ties to Al Qaeda and ISIS. Go to the Middle East, meet your new wife, meet some terror leaders, begin your wedded bliss back in the USA.
The other man, the victim, Nicholas Thalasinos, was a radical Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew, who also connected with his future wife online and had traveled across the country to meet her.
The killer, however, became half of an Islamic Bonnie & Clyde, while the other died as the male equivalent of Pamela Geller.
The killers deserve every disgusting adjective thrown at them. And more.
But the victim is also inaccurately being eulogized as a kind and loving religious man.
​

 

[Mitspa]

Its simple..call what is good, evil while you excuse what is evil as being good. This is typical left-wing propaganda ..the same people who would allow as many killers into our nation as possible while they take away the guns of the honest folks and any ability to defend ourselves. Its just insanity.

 

[p_rehbein]

the Daily News has always been a Liberal Hate Speech rag..........so, no one should be surprised by their reports........Folks don't go to The Daily News or Moveon.Org or such to find Biblical truth.........

 

[crossnote]

This guy is making me lose it...

Obama speech: Reassurances about ISIS fall flat in Oval Office address | Fox News

In the wake of the worst terrorist attack in America since 9/11, President Obama could have used his Oval Office address on Sunday night to announce different policies than the ones that have obviously failed to keep America safe from radical Islam.
He could have explained why a long-feared arrival of low-tech, soft-target terrorism had occurred, and what he would do to rectify the problem—beginning with apologizing for giving a U.S. visa to a jihadist from Pakistan and agreeing to stop his plan to bring more Syrian refugees here.

 

[jsr1221]

So... Am I the only one that has an issue with victims potentially being in help thanks to this false religion? Am I the only the one that has issue how this evil essentially sealed the fates of these victims? By killing them in name of a false God, esentially sending them to a place where all evil ends up in the end.. In hell? Am I the only one thinking this is a problem?

 

[jsr1221]

So... Am I the only one that has an issue with victims potentially being in help thanks to this false religion? Am I the only the one that has issue how this evil essentially sealed the fates of these victims? By killing them in name of a false God, esentially sending them to a place where all evil ends up in the end.. In hell? Am I the only one thinking this is a problem?

Hell... Not help. Autocorrect at its finest while trying to make a serious point.

 

[Abing]

Hell... Not help. Autocorrect at its finest while trying to make a serious point.

Resists the urge to post in this thread for the sole purpose of saying LOL. Resistance failed.

 

[jsr1221]

Resists the urge to post in this thread for the sole purpose of saying LOL. Resistance failed.

Good to see a serious point go ignored. Thanks... Haha.