Children forced to take Vaccines or not be able to go to school

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JosephsDreams

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#41
Well, for some vaccines it is clearly needed, as these anti vaccine people spread their propaganda to such an extent that diseases that were almost gone are returning with a vengeance, claiming lives
I never said all. We are all generalizing here.
They have been helpful, a blessing in some cases.
The problem is even the vaccines that a boon to humanity years ago are now adulterated with chemicals that are harmful. Again, all in the name of money. The adulterants are essentially cheap fillers in some cases.
But yes, some of them are a risk/reward prospect.

Here is a novel thought that I bet most of you have not considered. I know I will lose most of you here with this, but that is fine. It is the truth.
And "[FONT=&quot]the truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." A quote by Winston Churchill.
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"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." A quote by Jesus.

Now this may seem radical, but it is truth. Our immune systems are compromised for many reasons. One of the reasons people in the age before the flood lived for 700, 800, 900 years is because they had immune systems working at a capacity of at or close to 100%, unlike today, where our immune systems are severely compromised.
Some we have no control of. Others like our diets, we have a lot of control over.
How about our society at a grass roots level, that means parents, start feeding their kids better. That we stop putting hundreds of harmful chemicals in their bodies every week.
Of course the white blood cells count is to high. We are bombarding our kids with garbage. They are like (and many adults to) walking puss bags. The immune system is working overtime to just try and keep up, much less fight off other bacteria and virus's.
God designed us perfectly. Do you think he made mistakes we he made us? In a pristine environment with the proper food, we would never get sick, But that cat is out of the bag once we got kicked out of the garden and thanks to the post flood world.
But we can still improve our health a lot with what we have available.
The children's immune systems will dramatically improve, they will get sick less, there minds will work at a higher level, and they probably would not even need half these vaccines.

Gen. 1:29.
It still applies; if you want to live long and healthy.
 

JosephsDreams

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Dec 31, 2015
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#42
I've had to give these immunizations as part of my profession, so I am qualified to speak about this crap that goes on...
Thousands of mindless people think their govt cares for them when they truly don't give a damn about any human just your wealth/taxes. If govt says to get a vaccine it is to help the corporate agenda...the hegelian dialectic....create a problem and provide a solution....inbetween make gargantuan profits.....create a disease/hysteria about one....then provide a vaccine.....where did ebola suddenly disappear to? hmm.....and within less than 3 months they had a vaccine back in '14 when normally vaccines take at least 2-3 years to develop and another 2 to run through clinical trials on animals and humans. Ebola was a controlled experiment done to see how the masses react to an epidemic and also to boost gsk, johnson'n johnson etc's profits...via vaccinations which run on average about $30 or more....multiply that by the population of which a good 50-60% will get vaccinated at the least....your talking trillions or even more of profit.....all from a contrived pandemic by social elites....it also helps to depopulate the earth and save what they call mother earth/gaia.

Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism AnonHQ
That woman is clueless when it comes to health and what the bible says. In fact she is the anti thesis of how Christians should be conducting their life style regarding health.
Her diet is terrible, I know because she essentially told me so, in so many words, and like most of what she espouses here, very loud and often, she is straight out wrong...again.
She has her eyes on the vein's in the life, but could not see the forest if someone dropped her on it.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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#43
speaking of scary- sounding substances

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Ultimatum77

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#44
I never said all. We are all generalizing here.
They have been helpful, a blessing in some cases.
The problem is even the vaccines that a boon to humanity years ago are now adulterated with chemicals that are harmful. Again, all in the name of money. The adulterants are essentially cheap fillers in some cases.
But yes, some of them are a risk/reward prospect.

Here is a novel thought that I bet most of you have not considered. I know I will lose most of you here with this, but that is fine. It is the truth.
And "the truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." A quote by Winston Churchill.
"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." A quote by Jesus.

Now this may seem radical, but it is truth. Our immune systems are compromised for many reasons. One of the reasons people in the age before the flood lived for 700, 800, 900 years is because they had immune systems working at a capacity of at or close to 100%, unlike today, where our immune systems are severely compromised.
Some we have no control of. Others like our diets, we have a lot of control over.
How about our society at a grass roots level, that means parents, start feeding their kids better. That we stop putting hundreds of harmful chemicals in their bodies every week.
Of course the white blood cells count is to high. We are bombarding our kids with garbage. They are like (and many adults to) walking puss bags. The immune system is working overtime to just try and keep up, much less fight off other bacteria and virus's.
God designed us perfectly. Do you think he made mistakes we he made us? In a pristine environment with the proper food, we would never get sick, But that cat is out of the bag once we got kicked out of the garden and thanks to the post flood world.
But we can still improve our health a lot with what we have available.
The children's immune systems will dramatically improve, they will get sick less, there minds will work at a higher level, and they probably would not even need half these vaccines.

Gen. 1:29.
It still applies; if you want to live long and healthy.
I agree some are necessary such as the polio vaccination, but most of the modern vaccines have been doctored with pig dna/horse dna and all sorts of sexually sterilizing chemicals. They are drummed up to cause hysteria and then they get injected with this poison....especially developing children.....

You are right about the foods, most processed foods in the freezer isle are loaded with sodium benzoate at extremely high sodium levels....people consume this as tv dinners/easy heat ups then wonder how did I get high blood pressure all of a sudden....it's because the high sodium level's are contributing to your blood pressure.....it's a horrible cycle that people are stuck in with regards to health.....but good choices can be made if you're willing to make the effort and look for or grow organic/non-gmo foods.
 

JosephsDreams

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#45
Or how about using micro waves to prepare food?
The micro waves make the food incompatible to our physiology's.
It morphs the already junk food into disease causing poison.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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#46
I never said all. We are all generalizing here.
They have been helpful, a blessing in some cases.
The problem is even the vaccines that a boon to humanity years ago are now adulterated with chemicals that are harmful. Again, all in the name of money. The adulterants are essentially cheap fillers in some cases.
But yes, some of them are a risk/reward prospect.

Here is a novel thought that I bet most of you have not considered. I know I will lose most of you here with this, but that is fine. It is the truth.
And "the truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." A quote by Winston Churchill.
"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." A quote by Jesus.

Now this may seem radical, but it is truth. Our immune systems are compromised for many reasons. One of the reasons people in the age before the flood lived for 700, 800, 900 years is because they had immune systems working at a capacity of at or close to 100%, unlike today, where our immune systems are severely compromised.
Some we have no control of. Others like our diets, we have a lot of control over.
How about our society at a grass roots level, that means parents, start feeding their kids better. That we stop putting hundreds of harmful chemicals in their bodies every week.
Of course the white blood cells count is to high. We are bombarding our kids with garbage. They are like (and many adults to) walking puss bags. The immune system is working overtime to just try and keep up, much less fight off other bacteria and virus's.
God designed us perfectly. Do you think he made mistakes we he made us? In a pristine environment with the proper food, we would never get sick, But that cat is out of the bag once we got kicked out of the garden and thanks to the post flood world.
But we can still improve our health a lot with what we have available.
The children's immune systems will dramatically improve, they will get sick less, there minds will work at a higher level, and they probably would not even need half these vaccines.

Gen. 1:29.
It still applies; if you want to live long and healthy.
HIV (Random example) cannot be fought by sanitation/ healthy lifestyle / organic foods, why do you assume other deadly diseases do?
 
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KimPetras

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#47
This is way overblown, and an excuse for big pharma to make money. If it were my kid I would look for a different school or state....it's not worth getting autism/arthritis or other inflammatory conditions from a stupid vaccine that may or may not work.....no vaccines are guaranteed 100% it's just biological fact. There is no HPV crisis...it's just mass hysteria...like every year with the flu shot....you don't need it....you can take good natural vitamins and herbs to prevent the flu....but the shots make good money cha ching goes the cash register of big pharma.
*facepalm* Really? You're comparing the flu to HPV... In the words of your hero: "Believe me"... you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to HPV. I'm not sure "like every year with the flu shot" you can take herbs to prevent HPV...
 
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Ultimatum77

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#48
Or how about using micro waves to prepare food?
The micro waves make the food incompatible to our physiology's.
It morphs the already junk food into disease causing poison.
Not to mention that microwave ovens also emit radiation to the person when in use....some will laugh at this but next time take your wifi adapter/cellphone screen with you next to the microwave with it on and you will see that it interferes with the wifi signal and sometimes makes lines in the screen itself....(this also works for old school tube TV's/radios) you will hear audible intereference....and that is electromagnetic waves coming out of that box....

Yes I still use a microwave for haters that will undoubtedly ask..... but we live in a technological age where we are constantly exposed to electromagnetic radiation from devices and one has to wonder what does it do to our bodies? Afterall we weren't created to be a an electrical copper wire and transmit/receive electric waves lol....
 
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#49
I want to know why I can't have the small pox vaccine.
You're American. Look at the top of your arms near the shoulder. Do you have a slight indent/scar there? That means you got it when you were a baby. No booster shot required. Good for life.
 
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KimPetras

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#50
What ever happened to free will? Choice?
Parents have the free will to NOT give their children the vaccine... the consequence is they can't go to public school. It may not be the choice you want, but it's a choice nevertheless.
Your okay with the government ordering your personal life?
Yes, when it's a public health concern... absolutely. I'm NOT okay with people spreading something to their children, their children's children, etc... when it could eventually be eradicated.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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#51
*facepalm* Really? You're comparing the flu to HPV... In the words of your hero: "Believe me"... you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to HPV. I'm not sure "like every year with the flu shot" you can take herbs to prevent HPV...
So what would be the #1 preventative action to eliminate HPV?
 
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Ultimatum77

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#52
*facepalm* Really? You're comparing the flu to HPV... In the words of your hero: "Believe me"... you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to HPV. I'm not sure "like every year with the flu shot" you can take herbs to prevent HPV...
Your reading into my post....I never said HPV is Flu and vice-versa....I am comparing the media hysteria that is used to hype it up so that more girls will go get the hpv vaccine


There are other ways to prevent HPV without vaccination....check here...

8 Ways to Prevent HPV - Sexual Health Center - Everyday Health

I think old school abstinence works best and is the most godly way tbh....;)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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#53
Not to mention that microwave ovens also emit radiation to the person when in use....some will laugh at this but next time take your wifi adapter/cellphone screen with you next to the microwave with it on and you will see that it interferes with the wifi signal and sometimes makes lines in the screen itself....(this also works for old school tube TV's/radios) you will hear audible intereference....and that is electromagnetic waves coming out of that box....

Yes I still use a microwave for haters that will undoubtedly ask..... but we live in a technological age where we are constantly exposed to electromagnetic radiation from devices and one has to wonder what does it do to our bodies? Afterall we weren't created to be a an electrical copper wire and transmit/receive electric waves lol....

ALL electricity creates electromagnetic fields, including your stove and your PC that you are currently using
 
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Ultimatum77

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#54
ALL electricity creates electromagnetic fields, including your stove and your PC that you are currently using
I know that, I don't have any evidence about it but I sometimes wonder what it does to us on a cellular level? Just curious....no I don't have a tinfoil hat for this lol....but something I hope is being studied....
 
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KimPetras

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So what would be the #1 preventative action to eliminate HPV?
I wouldn't say taking herbs or vitamins to prevent it... My guess is if it's possible to prevent it by vaccinations, it should be done. Educating people about STD's, and this particular STD, would also help. There is so much misinformation about HPV in this thread... imagine the rest of the US/world.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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#57
I wouldn't say taking herbs or vitamins to prevent it... My guess is if it's possible to prevent it by vaccinations, it should be done. Educating people about STD's, and this particular STD, would also help. There is so much misinformation about HPV in this thread... imagine the rest of the US/world.
so vaccines is your #1 preventative action to avoiding this STD?
 
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Ultimatum77

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#58
I wouldn't say taking herbs or vitamins to prevent it... My guess is if it's possible to prevent it by vaccinations, it should be done. Educating people about STD's, and this particular STD, would also help. There is so much misinformation about HPV in this thread... imagine the rest of the US/world.
There is no misinformation....the links I posted about alternative ways to prevent HPV are legit....and doesn't require getting shot....lol
 
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#59
I've had to give these immunizations as part of my profession, so I am qualified to speak about this crap that goes on...
Thousands of mindless people think their govt cares for them when they truly don't give a damn about any human just your wealth/taxes. If govt says to get a vaccine it is to help the corporate agenda...the hegelian dialectic....create a problem and provide a solution....inbetween make gargantuan profits.....create a disease/hysteria about one....then provide a vaccine.....where did ebola suddenly disappear to? hmm.....and within less than 3 months they had a vaccine back in '14 when normally vaccines take at least 2-3 years to develop and another 2 to run through clinical trials on animals and humans. Ebola was a controlled experiment done to see how the masses react to an epidemic and also to boost gsk, johnson'n johnson etc's profits...via vaccinations which run on average about $30 or more....multiply that by the population of which a good 50-60% will get vaccinated at the least....your talking trillions or even more of profit.....all from a contrived pandemic by social elites....it also helps to depopulate the earth and save what they call mother earth/gaia.

Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism AnonHQ
My husband was in the hospital and nursing home for six months. I've seen lots and lots of doctors and nurses around him. Know what I learned? The medical profession can be, and often is, even more ignorant then the rest of us.

Are you the nurse who folded him in half to fit in the lift?

Are you the nurse who thought the best way to feed him ice was with her fingers, two little chips at a time once an hour?

Are you the nurse yelling at him to turn over when he couldn't even twitch anything but his right index finger?

Are you the doctor who took six weeks to decide to give him a complete scopy and then concluded he wasn't internally bleeding because nothing in his digestive system was bleeding when the scope went by, but give him two more pints of blood because he needed it?

Are you the doctor who watched him go down fast, but still thought he should go home after the weekend and if he bled that much again, I could lift up the 240 pound man to put him in the car and take him back to the hospital for more blood?

Are you the doctor who couldn't figure out, even after 50 units of blood, that maybe the Warfarin AND Heparin wasn't a good idea to continue?

Trust me when I say, just because you're in the medical field doesn't make you qualified. Been there, still have the scars, and now know how to stop believing such utter nonsense.

I also don't get my info from some site that boast of being anonymous.
 
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KimPetras

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#60
Your reading into my post....I never said HPV is Flu and vice-versa....I am comparing the media hysteria that is used to hype it up so that more girls will go get the hpv vaccine


There are other ways to prevent HPV without vaccination....check here...

8 Ways to Prevent HPV - Sexual Health Center - Everyday Health

I think old school abstinence works best and is the most godly way tbh....;)
I'm pretty sure STD's are still transmitted, even if one practices abstinence....

What if one person was abstinent their entire life but their future spouse wasn't?

Many HIV/AIDS patients contracted the disease prior to screening for those viruses/diseases.

As the link I posted earlier said, people (children included) can still get the disease without having sex.

Parents can transfer their STD to their unborn children.

I could create many more scenarios where abstinence doesn't solve the HPV epidemic (yes, it really is an epidemic)... but a vaccination has a more pragmatic/realistic approach. Not to mention, teaching abstinence has proven to fail. If we look at the US states that taught/teach abstinence only, they ironically have the highest teen pregnancy rates. Why is this? Because kids will be kids unfortunately... Godly instruction is hardly followed by godless children.