Christian Leaders Threaten Civil Disobedience Pending SCOTUS Gay Marriage Ruling
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I rarely use bold large text so pay attention:
They (which I can define for you if necessary) are sinfully engaging in the willful deconstruction of God's normative morality on behalf of those who transgress God's normative morality to enable the government to persecute the righteous for the purpose of more rapidly achieving the stated goals contained within the ideology of cultural Marxism.
[video=youtube;gIdBuK7_g3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M[/video]
We fought a world war and a cold war to stop it but the Soviets managed to plant their toxic seed with their last dying gasp into the fertile soil of America's elitist left (and via proxy the neoconservative movement).
They (which I can define for you if necessary) are sinfully engaging in the willful deconstruction of God's normative morality on behalf of those who transgress God's normative morality to enable the government to persecute the righteous for the purpose of more rapidly achieving the stated goals contained within the ideology of cultural Marxism.
[video=youtube;gIdBuK7_g3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M[/video]
We fought a world war and a cold war to stop it but the Soviets managed to plant their toxic seed with their last dying gasp into the fertile soil of America's elitist left (and via proxy the neoconservative movement).
I do not agree with same sex marriage given the biblical reasons but I wonder about some of the reactions to what may happen. Even if you believed evolution the man goes with the woman or you have no new people. So..sorry, even evolution disagrees with you.
That being said...
Looking at other countries who have already legalized it lets say as far back as 2005 {canada} are their churchs being forced underground? I see plenty of canadians on CC they still seem to be able to practice their religion and are not using cc from prison or holed up in cellars with their bible and their gun. I get the idea on this site sometimes the americans seem to think we are the only country that exists. Do other countries that have allowed gay marriage still have churchs? Do they still have freedom of religion? Are we seeing new stories of christian or any religion that doesn't approve in other countries were it is already allowed being forced to marry them in the church?
That being said...
Looking at other countries who have already legalized it lets say as far back as 2005 {canada} are their churchs being forced underground? I see plenty of canadians on CC they still seem to be able to practice their religion and are not using cc from prison or holed up in cellars with their bible and their gun. I get the idea on this site sometimes the americans seem to think we are the only country that exists. Do other countries that have allowed gay marriage still have churchs? Do they still have freedom of religion? Are we seeing new stories of christian or any religion that doesn't approve in other countries were it is already allowed being forced to marry them in the church?
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I believe we should do what we can to stop this from happening within biblical guidelines, whether preachers marrying people is in scriptures or not. If they win this stepping in the wrong direction, be rest assured they're not stopping there..... they're going for a long walk. Their hatred for the true christians will not be quenched.
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[video=youtube;y3qkf3bajd4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4[/video]
"This is G. Edward Griffin's shocking video interview, Soviet Subversion of the Free-World Press (1984), where he interviews ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov who decided to openly reveal KGB's subversive tactics against western society as a whole.
Bezmenov explains how Jewish Marxist ideology is destabilizing the economy and purposefully pushing the U.S. into numerous crises so that a "Big Brother" tyranny can be put into place in Washington, how most Americans don't even realize that they are under attack, and that normal parliamentary procedures will not alter the federal government's direction.
He then explains how Marxist leaders use informers to make lists of anti-Communist and other politically incorrect people who they want to execute once they - actually a Jewish oligarchy - come to power. The oligarch's secret lists include "civil rights" activists and idealistically-minded "useful idiot" leftists as well.
Bezmenov provides several real world examples of how Marxist leaders even execute and/or imprison each other. Also he explains how American embassy employees were known to betray Soviets attempting to defect, how there existed a "triangle of hate" in the Soviet government, why he realized that Marxism-Leninism was a murderous doctrine, and how the CIA ignored (or didn't care) about Communist subversion.
He also mentions that revolutions throughout history are never the result of a majority movement, but of a small dedicated and highly-organized group who seize power, whether for good or bad. Next he explains how the American mass media spread lies about life in the Soviet Union.
Bezmenov also explains how the LOOK magazine article falsely claimed that the Russian people were proud of their victory in the Second World War, where in reality the Judeo-Bolshevik-Communist-Marxist government was happy that Hitler had been defeated so that they could remain in power.
Find out how the KGB utilized various individuals to undermine the Western society in its morals and values."
"This is G. Edward Griffin's shocking video interview, Soviet Subversion of the Free-World Press (1984), where he interviews ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov who decided to openly reveal KGB's subversive tactics against western society as a whole.
Bezmenov explains how Jewish Marxist ideology is destabilizing the economy and purposefully pushing the U.S. into numerous crises so that a "Big Brother" tyranny can be put into place in Washington, how most Americans don't even realize that they are under attack, and that normal parliamentary procedures will not alter the federal government's direction.
He then explains how Marxist leaders use informers to make lists of anti-Communist and other politically incorrect people who they want to execute once they - actually a Jewish oligarchy - come to power. The oligarch's secret lists include "civil rights" activists and idealistically-minded "useful idiot" leftists as well.
Bezmenov provides several real world examples of how Marxist leaders even execute and/or imprison each other. Also he explains how American embassy employees were known to betray Soviets attempting to defect, how there existed a "triangle of hate" in the Soviet government, why he realized that Marxism-Leninism was a murderous doctrine, and how the CIA ignored (or didn't care) about Communist subversion.
He also mentions that revolutions throughout history are never the result of a majority movement, but of a small dedicated and highly-organized group who seize power, whether for good or bad. Next he explains how the American mass media spread lies about life in the Soviet Union.
Bezmenov also explains how the LOOK magazine article falsely claimed that the Russian people were proud of their victory in the Second World War, where in reality the Judeo-Bolshevik-Communist-Marxist government was happy that Hitler had been defeated so that they could remain in power.
Find out how the KGB utilized various individuals to undermine the Western society in its morals and values."
what religious freedom,
this is the uk ,when do we have the first amandment. again i hope understand, opinion dont change a law that is already in place.
for example.
being pro abortion or anti gay. dose the law say they can have an abortion. being for or against is a wast of time if the law said they can.
so even, if the individual church say no, they go else ware.
cry out loud if you want, opinions dont change law.
this is the uk ,when do we have the first amandment. again i hope understand, opinion dont change a law that is already in place.
for example.
being pro abortion or anti gay. dose the law say they can have an abortion. being for or against is a wast of time if the law said they can.
so even, if the individual church say no, they go else ware.
cry out loud if you want, opinions dont change law.
i did make a point , sorry you missed it.
all have sinned and fall short. when did my opinion change,
when do i have anything to do with usa law. is the law of the land in politics hands, if it in politic hands, whats that to do with church or religion . are you saying all politicians are christian. so why are they wanting to go to court . if the all agree. etc
all have sinned and fall short. when did my opinion change,
when do i have anything to do with usa law. is the law of the land in politics hands, if it in politic hands, whats that to do with church or religion . are you saying all politicians are christian. so why are they wanting to go to court . if the all agree. etc
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Christians under state atheism in the 20th century had to grapple with the same problem. How do you have a religious ceremony when the state sends out a goon squad that beats everyone attending to a pulp and drags half of them off to jail?
Their choice was to continue having them but to do so in secret with very few present which was very brave imho.
But, it's true there certainly are other options. Bear with me for a minute...
In the Bible marriage is the primal human bond of society, the foundation of social life. A marriage is a bond between two people, male and female. The foundational image is that in marriage two become one (Mt 19:5; Mk 10:7–8).
In the creation story, God himself decides that “it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him” (Gen 2:18). It is God who brings Eve to Adam after creating her (Gen 2:22), in effect pronouncing the first marriage union in history.
In the New Testament, husband and wife are said to be “joined together” by God (Mt 19:6; Mk 10:9). Jesus attended marriages such as the marriage of Cana in Galilee (Jn 2:1–11).
This image is that of a lifetime bond as stated by Jesus in the form of a command: “What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder” (Mt 19:6 RSV; Mk 10:9).
Sometimes the Bible pictures this lifetime marriage bond in the imagery of a covenant. Malachi pictures God as “witness to the covenant between you and the wife of your youth, your companion by covenant” (Mal 2:14 RSV; cf. Ezek 16:8).
What am I driving at? Simple, a correct exegesis of Scripture clearly lays out the status of marriage which is to say what marriage is and what marriage is not. Christian marriage customs arose around that in various times and places.
Christians are free to alter their marriage customs as long as their customs align with a correct exegesis of Scripture with respect to what marriage is and what it is not.
Yes, this can be done in a way that fulfills the requirements in Scripture for Christian marriage while removing Christians in ministry from the path of an increasingly anti-Christian authoritarian state driven by an increasingly deceived, immoral, non-Christian/apostate populace that demands they violate their Christian convictions, adherence to a correct exegesis of Scripture, and free moral conscience (in the context of God's holy normative morality) and participate and facilitate the sacrilege and abomination of homosexual "marriage" or suffer persecution by the state for not doing so.
Their choice was to continue having them but to do so in secret with very few present which was very brave imho.
But, it's true there certainly are other options. Bear with me for a minute...
In the Bible marriage is the primal human bond of society, the foundation of social life. A marriage is a bond between two people, male and female. The foundational image is that in marriage two become one (Mt 19:5; Mk 10:7–8).
In the creation story, God himself decides that “it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him” (Gen 2:18). It is God who brings Eve to Adam after creating her (Gen 2:22), in effect pronouncing the first marriage union in history.
In the New Testament, husband and wife are said to be “joined together” by God (Mt 19:6; Mk 10:9). Jesus attended marriages such as the marriage of Cana in Galilee (Jn 2:1–11).
This image is that of a lifetime bond as stated by Jesus in the form of a command: “What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder” (Mt 19:6 RSV; Mk 10:9).
Sometimes the Bible pictures this lifetime marriage bond in the imagery of a covenant. Malachi pictures God as “witness to the covenant between you and the wife of your youth, your companion by covenant” (Mal 2:14 RSV; cf. Ezek 16:8).
What am I driving at? Simple, a correct exegesis of Scripture clearly lays out the status of marriage which is to say what marriage is and what marriage is not. Christian marriage customs arose around that in various times and places.
Christians are free to alter their marriage customs as long as their customs align with a correct exegesis of Scripture with respect to what marriage is and what it is not.
Yes, this can be done in a way that fulfills the requirements in Scripture for Christian marriage while removing Christians in ministry from the path of an increasingly anti-Christian authoritarian state driven by an increasingly deceived, immoral, non-Christian/apostate populace that demands they violate their Christian convictions, adherence to a correct exegesis of Scripture, and free moral conscience (in the context of God's holy normative morality) and participate and facilitate the sacrilege and abomination of homosexual "marriage" or suffer persecution by the state for not doing so.
