Connecting dots "differently".....

[NayborBear]

Concerning the resignation of Gen Flynn?.....The significance of Putin deploying a cruise missile on a submarine, and the sighting of a "spy ship" on the east coast?

Here goes: Gen. Flynn KNOWS a lot more intel then Mike Pence and a HECKUVALOT more then the Donald! Flynn didn't relate ALL that Flynn Told him, which, by the way, he IS allowed to converse with foreign dignitaries, as the INCOMING Head of the NSA!...The Dems. MAY have had a point, had they the ability TO disallow his nomination. But, seeings how they could ONLY delay it. Flynn broke NO law, or laws in his "still" CLASSIFIED communications with the Ruskies!

The REASON Flynn did NOT reveal EVERYTHING to Pence, was to give Pence, AND the President "plausible deniability", due to the jeopardization of "certain" Russian dignitaries!....Some of this information may even involve a particular undermining of the Russian government itself! In which after finding out this/these "leakings to the PRESS", of all things...Putin?...Is PISSED!!...Not only due a point that there were even Classified conversations going on AT ALL!...But, ALSO the fact that there MAY have been clandestine inferences in a usurping of Putin's government...LEAKED TO THE PRESS!

In Flynn's resignation, I APPLAUD the man for sacrificing himself for the greater good! To those who LEAKED this information?...They don't KNOW the DAMAGE they may have caused, in the NAME of POLITICS!.....Not even mentioning that what he, she, or they did is CERTAINLY Illegal, and every EFFORT in the ferreting out these individuals should be taken, And bringing them out to the firing squad, for TREASON!....

Reckon only time will bare this out correctly, eh?

 

[T_Laurich]

Getting rid of flynn is a bad move on the trump admin...

But trump is making tons of bad moves...

Congress is going on vacation next week... And we still don't have a budget plan for the wall, no bills or laws about immigration.... And not a single proposal to dismantle or rewrite Obama Care.... Seriously, week 3 and all of his biggest plans are not even on the floor in congress.... If trump wanted this stuff fast he would put it on the floor asap considering how slow congress moves...

I have given up on trump, but getting rid of Flynn is a bad move on his part... The ship is underwater, bubble is about to pop, public is rioting, the other portion ofthe public that likes you will hate you in 4 months because your not moving on your promises... And you decide to throw the general off the ship in the middle of the ocean... AND! You are going to send Snowden to Death whether it be by life in jail or execution for being a public hero.... All to gain favor with the russians, yet you are continuing Obama's plan of building up the Polish border with military for a plausible strike force against russia if everything goes south...

Trump is making so many bad moves...

 

[Dude653]

I don't see Snowden as a hero. He broke the law. Beep happens

 

[T_Laurich]

I don't see Snowden as a hero. He broke the law. Beep happens

No he didn't.... Espionage is being a spy... Or in other words, giving other countries sensitive information about your govt. that will hinder your govt. and help theirs...

Snowden gave information not to Russia, or China, or N.Korea... He gave information to the american public telling them that their Govt. is lying to them and breaking the law by collecting every bit of data on their public to monitor and control them....


This was not like Chelsea Manning who gave information to other countries and entities in other countries that would hurt americas war and cost them resources and lives...

Snowden went to American press, and the American public, to help them... He did not release any information concerning any other country, or Americas relations with other countries...


His actions were perfectly legal, but the fact that he showed the Govt. was lying is why he is wanted for execution.


Snowden is a National Hero.

You will not see any political figure go to jail for 5 years for lying under oath about spying on the american public... But the guy that tried to help the american public and show the public that the govt. is lying is going to death....

This isn't about espionage, it is about making an example of him so they wont have this problem in the future and can get away with more sinister stuff...

 

[Dude653]

Like it or not, NSA surveillance is needed for tracking terrorists and pedophiles. I forgot a person's name but there is a retired police officer on this forum he shared with us a couple days ago that law enforcement is years behind in tracking pedophiles because their technology is obsolete. If you're not a terrorist or a pedophile then you need not worry

 

[Dude653]

What Snowden did is make NSAs job harder.

 

[T_Laurich]

This is why the call him a spy... If snowden can prove he is not a spy he is off the hook... Hence his tweet saying "Russia is going to give me over, no country has ever given another a spy, because they don't know if the spy will double cross them."

The only way he can break the law by being a spy under the espionage act....

So they call him a spy, without any proof... So that he will still be put to death "legally" to set an example to other employees with sinister information about the govt. and their dealings with the public.

 

[T_Laurich]

NSA's job harder to do what? spy on americans???
GOOD! Because that is ILLEGAL!

 

[Dude653]

There is no Spying. They have a list of red flag words. If one pops up, they look at it. If it's legit, they move on.

 

[T_Laurich]

There is no Spying. They have a list of red flag words. If one pops up, they look at it. If it's legit, they move on.

I take it you are really unfamiliar with what snowden released...
They don't collect "red flags".... They collect EVERYTHING... From every text to post to key stroke.... Doesn't matter what you type or don't they collect....

And they don't just collect they build a profile on you they investigate everyone...

This is highly illegal...


Seriously, read his releasings...

They even track how your mouse moves on your computer, and due to micro twitches they build a profile as well...

 

[Sirk]

The intelligence agencies have been politicized and are filled with vermin Obama appointees. This Flynn debacle was a soft coup.

 

[tanakh]

Getting rid of flynn is a bad move on the trump admin...

But trump is making tons of bad moves...

Congress is going on vacation next week... And we still don't have a budget plan for the wall, no bills or laws about immigration.... And not a single proposal to dismantle or rewrite Obama Care.... Seriously, week 3 and all of his biggest plans are not even on the floor in congress.... If trump wanted this stuff fast he would put it on the floor asap considering how slow congress moves...

I have given up on trump, but getting rid of Flynn is a bad move on his part... The ship is underwater, bubble is about to pop, public is rioting, the other portion ofthe public that likes you will hate you in 4 months because your not moving on your promises... And you decide to throw the general off the ship in the middle of the ocean... AND! You are going to send Snowden to Death whether it be by life in jail or execution for being a public hero.... All to gain favor with the russians, yet you are continuing Obama's plan of building up the Polish border with military for a plausible strike force against russia if everything goes south...

Trump is making so many bad moves...

It will be interesting to see if he gets his act together or whether he will have the shortest term on record!

 

[p_rehbein]

Destined for the Conspiracy Forum?

 

[plainguy]

It will be interesting to see if he gets his act together or whether he will have the shortest term on record!

You'd like that, wouldn't you ? I'm gonna work with you on this one ... because I like you. Trump will fail .. Trump will fail .. Trump will fail .. Trump will fail ............ in the name of Jesus, Trump will fail. Who knows .. maybe this speak it and claim it stuff will work this one time.

 

[Sirk]

Destined for the Conspiracy Forum?

Just go ahead and ask James clapper if this should be in the conspiracy forum. A guy who lied under oath to congress. Nothing to see here, no double standard st all.

 

[plainguy]

Getting rid of flynn is a bad move on the trump admin...

What choice did Trump have ? Trump did what he had to do in light of Flynn not being as forthcoming as he should have been ... regardless if it was relevant or not. If Trump kept him on, the left would pound him incessantly with being a hypocrite. Trump asks him to resign, and Trump's labelled as incompetent for choosing him. But not a peep in the press about Trump holding his selections to the highest standard of honesty and integrity. No surprises here. I wouldn't expect anything but this from the democrats.

 

[Sirk]

And let's not forget Susan rice lying about Benghazi....or Hillary fir that matter. The fake news on full display.

 

[plainguy]

And let's not forget Susan rice lying about Benghazi....or Hillary fir that matter. The fake news on full display.

Hilary approved the sale of 20% of the U.S.' uranium to those Russian businessmen for the good of the country. Nobody was more surprised than her to see Bill paid $500,000.00 for a speech given in Russia shortly thereafter .

 

[Dude653]

I take it you are really unfamiliar with what snowden released...
They don't collect "red flags".... They collect EVERYTHING... From every text to post to key stroke.... Doesn't matter what you type or don't they collect....

And they don't just collect they build a profile on you they investigate everyone...

This is highly illegal...


Seriously, read his releasings...

They even track how your mouse moves on your computer, and due to micro twitches they build a profile as well...

Do you really think they have the time or resources to investigate every single person in America? I'm sure they're very interested in my Facebook trolling or my visits to lolcats

 

[Susanna]

Do you really think they have the time or resources to investigate every single person in America? I'm sure they're very interested in my Facebook trolling or my visits to lolcats

Thanks for turning yourself in. I'll make sure the correct three letter agency receives this information. Again, thank you. You can self surrender to the nearest federal correctional facility. .