Cop Not Indicted

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Atwood

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IMHO:

What is to be done about such riots? The authorities surely knew that it was extremely probable that a mod of persons who took sides based upon pigment match, would illegally block traffic, congregating in the middle of streets, then go on a violent rampage destroying property of innocent persons & thieving. Such being the case, were the authorities blocked from taking strong enough measures to prevent the riot? Curfew? Tanks?

What the mob was saying is that the legal process must go their pigment-prejudiced way or they would riot. This is an intolerable attempt at lynching.

I am asking if according to Romans 13, the proper course by the ministers of God who bear not the sword in vain, instruments of God's vengeance on evil-doers -- the proper course would be to machine gun the rioters?

Of course given today's technology, it might be possible to arrest the rioters one by one, but I doubt that the evidence gathered that way would be good enough for conviction. Also, the cost of arresting, trying, and imprisoning all those persons would be very unfair on taxpayers.

Is there anything better than the machine gun?
 
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I'm still on the fence here though, I'm taking everything into consideration, people are going nuts, in for what ? This teen, I don't think he should've died but, hey, you slam doors on cops, and have your HANDS on officers FIREARM, things aren't going to turn out well if you don't get on your face and hit the ground after officer got control of the firearm. He's a rookie cop, wasn't a good shot, own words " missed " a few times.. This guy 6'5 280...and not giving up, if you rob a bank, officers just not going to say ahhh silly kid, get this guy next time, cop did his job, shame the guy died though.
 

Atwood

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Agree! but let not forget that the first organized 'terrorist group' in the USA was the Ku Klux Klan that was allowed to flourish for nearly 100 years before the federal government decide it was time to eradicate its power.

The federal government knew the impact of the terrorist acts by the Klans against people of color ... but chose to tirn a blinded eye to the activities in the Southern states because of politics.

Why am I bringing this up? because the racial divide goes back a couple hundreds of years. The federal government had a chance to deal with immigration issues with Mexico hundreds of years ago but chose not to .... because of politics. We have two explosive issues: race & immigration that should have been resolved nearly 150 & 200 years ago, respectively.

It is amazing how history can comeback and bite one in the butt.
Well speak of Cabbages & Kings, Biscuit.
You start out on the KKK (though I don't know what they have to do with Ferguson); then you move to the Mexican invasion of the USA.

IMHO:
The USA has had immigration laws for a long time. It used to be that Mexico got favored treatment with Latin countries, as I recall. What is unfair about the USA's immigration laws? What alternative is there beside open borders, immigration at will by anyone & everyone? The USA has not exerted the will to enforce the immigration laws & to protect the border, at least perhaps since the brief episode by Pres Eisenhower with his Operation Wet Back.

I think that by and large the Afro-American population is not willing to adopt color-blind integration. Multi-culturalism and affirmative action are the popular approaches, official unabashed black pride, taking sides by pigment, and seeking benefits based on pigment congruence. The resentment for slavery, Jim Crow, and segregationist discrimination, is hard just be dropped permanently in 1969, with the passing of civil rights laws.

And now we have a Tower of Babel movement; press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, with a great potential to end up with civil war and division of the nation.

We can expect conflict and war to continue until Christ returns. Christians at least have the potential to live in harmony, rejecting divisions based on pigment and language.
 

Atwood

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While they slaughter black children everyday with a smile, saying it's their right!!!
Freeze, you really need proof to declare such a sweeping generalization. Remember that liars go to the Lake of Fire.
 

Atwood

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Yes, it is sad but nothing compare to the riots in the late 60's and early 70's.
I would modify that statement to the 1960's and say that those riots had a reasonable cause. Black persons were systematically and legally oppressed before the Civil Rights legislation of the late 1960's. Right now what we seem to be seeing is a group of persons taking sides in a conflict based on their own pigment match, and an attempt to lynch a person of the different pigment group.
 
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Are you saying planned parenthood isn't just that, a satanic tool of sacrifice?
Check out this short clip, as they scream hail satan..
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip-49uzHpbw
How do we know those were specifically members of Planned Parenthood? And it seemed more they were trolling than being serious. And what does this have to do with the topic at hand? You know, about the cop.
 
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How do we know those were specifically members of Planned Parenthood? And it seemed more they were trolling than being serious. And what does this have to do with the topic at hand? You know, about the cop.
He asked a question, I gave a answer, maybe the post #87 could help a little better Ugly, but I just posted, and have been posting, if the cops justified.. He was justified .. It looks to be the case, and case closed.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Good post Atwood. Without a doubt, Civil War post-construction failed to deliver for African Americans the natural law assertions in America's founding documents and the Civil Rights movement was created to normalize that situation.

The problem is that movements often don't cease once they've materially accomplished their goal. The momentum that created them continues forward and often fragments in undesirable ways.

A good example of that is the present problem of groups of people coalesced around sexual immorality falsely asserting they are morally justified to leverage a movement created to correct a radical racial inequity.

Another example would be the situation America finds itself in today. A balkanizing nation with a liberal media that spends all of it's time following around con men like Al Sharpton to far flung incidents that have nothing to do with the actual problem. I look at this behavior as a form of escapism in which a materially ignorant and deceived segment of society (e.g. the modern liberal) rants, raves, and riots over atypical incidents rather than look in the mirror and see how far they've fallen... how far removed they are from creating moral, godly families; living moral, godly lives; and raising moral, godly children.

But they don't want to do that. They want to create straw men to blame and burn them down which accomplishes nothing and leaves them even more lost afterwards.


I would modify that statement to the 1960's and say that those riots had a reasonable cause. Black persons were systematically and legally oppressed before the Civil Rights legislation of the late 1960's. Right now what we seem to be seeing is a group of persons taking sides in a conflict based on their own pigment match, and an attempt to lynch a person of the different pigment group.
 
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Good post Atwood. Without a doubt, Civil War post-construction failed to deliver for African Americans the natural law assertions in America's founding documents and the Civil Rights movement was created to normalize that situation.

The problem is that movements often don't cease once they've materially accomplished their goal. The momentum that created them continues forward and often fragments in undesirable ways.

A good example of that is the present problem of groups of people coalesced around sexual immorality falsely asserting they are morally justified to leverage a movement created to correct a radical racial inequity.

Another example would be the situation America finds itself in today. A balkanizing nation with a liberal media that spends all of it's time following around con men like Al Sharpton to far flung incidents that have nothing to do with the actual problem. I look at this behavior as a form of escapism in which a materially ignorant and deceived segment of society (e.g. the modern liberal) rants, raves, and riots over atypical incidents rather than look in the mirror and see how far they've fallen... how far removed they are from creating moral, godly families; living moral, godly lives; and raising moral, godly children.

But they don't want to do that. They want to create straw men to blame and burn them down which accomplishes nothing and leaves them even more lost afterwards.
Agreed, good post..and correction, I meant post #89, exposes some of repulsive sides of planned parenthood Ugly ...
GNite, gentlemen
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Goodnight brother.

Agreed, good post..and correction, I meant post #89, exposes some of repulsive sides of planned parenthood Ugly ...
GNite, gentlemen
 

raf

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"Included in the grand jury material released tonight after the announcement that no charges would be filed in the Michael Brown killing is a handwritten witness account stating that the teenager charged at Officer Darren Wilson 'like a football player. Head down.'

The unidentified witness wrote that the 18-year-old Brown 'has his arms out with attitude,' while 'The cop just stood there.' The witness added, 'Dang if that kid didn’t start running right at the cop like a football player. Head down.'

The witness told of hearing '3 bangs,' but 'the big kid wouldn’t stop.' The witness’s account of the unarmed Brown charging Wilson--even after he had been shot in the hand during a struggle at the cop’s patrol car--supports the officer’s contention that he fired a series of shots as Brown bore down on him." -The Smoking Gun

Ferguson Witnesss Told Investigators That Michael Brown Charged Cop "Like a Football Player. Head Down" | The Smoking Gun

"Big Mike," an adult and gang associate, violently assaulted a police officer and went for his gun who was trying to get him to leave the middle of the road where he was holding up traffic after committing a strong-arm robbery.

There are consequences to engaging in criminal behavior. There are consequences to committing a felonious assault (and possible attempted murder) on a police officer. One of those is that you very well might end up dead as the police officer defends himself and the society he's sworn to protect.

"Big Mike" was not a kid, he was an adult. And as an adult, "Big Mike" was 100% entirely responsible for his own behavioral choices. He reaped what he sowed and though it's not popular to say this, the world is a safer and better place.

Certainly police corruption needs to be ferreted out and removed; however, this has NOTHING to do with that but rather is a simple case of a police officer lawfully defending himself against a large adult assailant. Thank you Officer Wilson for having the courage and competency to defend yourself and fulfill your oath to protect society from dangerous criminals such as "Big Mike."





I'll take one of these:

The picture with the guy holding the gun isnt mike brown they already solved this.
 
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Well speak of Cabbages & Kings, Biscuit.
You start out on the KKK (though I don't know what they have to do with Ferguson); then you move to the Mexican invasion of the USA.

IMHO:
The USA has had immigration laws for a long time. It used to be that Mexico got favored treatment with Latin countries, as I recall. What is unfair about the USA's immigration laws? What alternative is there beside open borders, immigration at will by anyone & everyone? The USA has not exerted the will to enforce the immigration laws & to protect the border, at least perhaps since the brief episode by Pres Eisenhower with his Operation Wet Back.

I think that by and large the Afro-American population is not willing to adopt color-blind integration. Multi-culturalism and affirmative action are the popular approaches, official unabashed black pride, taking sides by pigment, and seeking benefits based on pigment congruence. The resentment for slavery, Jim Crow, and segregationist discrimination, is hard just be dropped permanently in 1969, with the passing of civil rights laws.

And now we have a Tower of Babel movement; press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, with a great potential to end up with civil war and division of the nation.

We can expect conflict and war to continue until Christ returns. Christians at least have the potential to live in harmony, rejecting divisions based on pigment and language.
Won't give you a history lesson ... but a summary should be adequate.

This country was built on cheap labor, mainly from people of color, especially Blacks, Mexicans & Asians. It was never meant to incorporate these groups of people into mainstream American. Why? It would badly dilute the power base & status quo structure of America.

Now America is paying a dear price for the barriers and the world is condemning America as I type for its race relations. You will be surprised how well they know American history. They are very well versed in American history, especially racial politics than we are.

There are good reasons why American history is one of the most ignored subjects taught in America's education system. You are witnessing the "downfall of America," with the possibility of increasing in the Tribulation Hour.

"What goes around comes around." If you look around you the status quo is being attacked on "four fronts" and it is likely this nation won't survive the onslaught. It won't be outside forces such as terrorism that will destroy this country but domestic issues that the status quo have been dragging its feet for hundreds of years.

Mexico is a sovereign country and it had its land invaded & taken without compensation. That's funny??? because USA bought land from France (Louisiana Purchase). We bought Alaska from Russia but we stole, invade nearly the entire southwest from Mexico.

Just look how much noise we and the world is making over Russia ready to steal, invade Ukraine, although it is a sovereign nation.

1) African Americans
2) Hispanics/Latinos
3) radical Islam
4) women & gays
 
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biscuit

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We can expect conflict and war to continue until Christ returns. Christians at least have the potential to live in harmony, rejecting divisions based on pigment and language.

Amen!! agree with you here.
 
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pastac

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Check daily deaths of black males in the us see that stat since folks think race is not sn issue
 
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pastac

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Good post Atwood. Without a doubt, Civil War post-construction failed to deliver for African Americans the natural law assertions in America's founding documents and the Civil Rights movement was created to normalize that situation.

The problem is that movements often don't cease once they've materially accomplished their goal. The momentum that created them continues forward and often fragments in undesirable ways.

A good example of that is the present problem of groups of people coalesced around sexual immorality falsely asserting they are morally justified to leverage a movement created to correct a radical racial inequity.

Another example would be the situation America finds itself in today. A balkanizing nation with a liberal media that spends all of it's time following around con men like Al Sharpton to far flung incidents that have nothing to do with the actual problem. I look at this behavior as a form of escapism in which a materially ignorant and deceived segment of society (e.g. the modern liberal) rants, raves, and riots over atypical incidents rather than look in the mirror and see how far they've fallen... how far removed they are from creating moral, godly families; living moral, godly lives; and raising moral, godly children.

But they don't want to do that. They want to create straw men to blame and burn them down which accomplishes nothing and leaves them even more lost afterwards.
A lot of truth in these statements yet we as blackmen fear for our lives and our sons from some mistaken identy shooting or ober zeslous scared officer,Ill go as far to say even with empty hands msny are shot because the black man caused some deep seated inner fear.
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pastac

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Ref post #97 black males shot and killed by police in us
 
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pastac

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Operation ghetto storm ageofknowledge take a look