Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Anecdotal evidence that the interest around the rapture has heated up significantly in just the last four years.

Has that happened before? Yes. Is that a reason to dismiss this? On the contrary, I understand one purpose of the false prophets is to give numerous false alarms to cause people to drop their guard. Crooks do this all the time. Satan is a thief, he comes in the night, and it makes sense to do this.

I find your using this "people have said this before" as falling for the deception. False prophets may be a reason to be prudent but not to ignore what is going on.
Understand the reasoning and the potential strategy. I don't typically trust the crowd to lead me. You should be able to tell that I don't ignore as much as you might suggest. I'm actually pretty free to watch things apart from being committed to a single eschatological view. This was not always the case.
 

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So yes, April 8th was a 40 day warning. If you know the Lord's will you had better be about the Father's business and doing it. Obviously not everyone on earth knows God's will so for them this will be like a shot across the bow to wake them up and cause them to seek out the truth in the Bible.
Must have missed this one. What are we to be expecting 11 days from now?
 

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eschatology scholars
A person as willfully ignorant as Heiser cannot possibly be an eschatological scholar.
In fact the is the very antithesis of one.
 

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It's more the debaters.
There is no debate as regards the truth so spoken by the Lord and His servants.
There is only a matter of understanding and compliance.
 

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Seriously? You missed the Alpha and Omega sign! How?
This is a very brief review, there is much, much more on this sign going all the way back to the eclipse of 2017

 

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A person as willfully ignorant as Heiser cannot possibly be an eschatological scholar.
In fact the is the very antithesis of one.
I didn't include him as an eschatology scholar, so maybe you're misreading me. I have no knowledge of how studied or non-studied he was on the topic. I doubt you do either. I will say after reading and listening to some of his work awhile back, I doubt he was unschooled in eschatology and it seems unlikely he was unfamiliar with the arguments of the various interpretations.

Since I'm unable to review even privately your professed works, I think we've bantered enough. If I'm going to use breath re: eschatology I'd prefer to do so in a more meaningful or productive way. As I said, my budgeted allotment of breath [at this age] is limited. Enjoy the watchmen work.
 

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Seriously? You missed the Alpha and Omega sign! How?

Thank God for YouTube scholars, especially ones who hedge their bets across the 3 western concepts of time. If we get past May 18, 2024, it will be interesting to at some point be able to ask AI to analyze Scripture for us and tell us when we should be ready to go. I wonder if AI will be concerned about being left behind.

My eschatology breath may now be depleted.

Have fun...
 

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What are we to be expecting 11 days from now?
Well first we need to read the sign.

It is made up of 3 eclipses.

1. The 2017 eclipse first enters the US at the Columbia gorge in Oregon. This is the biggest and most dramatic evidence of "the great Missoula Flood" (Noah's flood) at the end of the last ice age. The water travelling through the gorge was 1,000 feet deep and they calculate that at that time more water was travelling through the gorge than travels through all the water in all the rivers today. So this eclipse points us to Noah's flood. Noah entered the ark seven days before the flood came and this was seven years ago.

2. This eclipse went over seven cities in the US named Salem which means peace. Therefore we understand this is a confirmation that we will have seven years of peace from this eclipse in August of 2017 to August? of 2024.

3. The last place the eclipse crosses before leaving the US was the first place that the Civil war began. This indicates that seven years from 2017, ie in 2024 we will see a Civil war begin. I would say that is one of the things we are expecting to see.

4. Halfway between the start and the finish this eclipse went through a place called "little Egypt". This reminds us of the ten plagues and sure enough in "Little Egypt" they have a yearly festival for the gathering of the vultures. When Jesus was asked "where?" He answered "where the vultures gather together there will the carcass be". What is especially interesting out this place is that seven years later the April 8th eclipse intersects this eclipse over Little Egypt. In other words "X marks the spot".

5. The 2023 Eclipse also first crosses the US over the Columbia gorge, a second reference to the days of Noah. By the mouth of two or three witnesses let a thing be established.

6. The last place the 2023 Eclipse crosses as it leaves the US is where the Civil war ended in the US. A second reference to the Civil war and again, by the mouth of two or three witnesses let a thing be established.

7. But the April 8th Eclipse has 80 points of interest. Too much to cover in this post. However, the first place it crossed was Eagle Pass Texas at the same time that the trucker protests were meeting there to protest the border. This shows us that the polarization we are seeing in the US between MAGA and the Uniparty is going to grow into this civil war.

8. Then there are seven references to Jonah in this eclipse with two cities called Nineveh that are in the path of totality. Once again, by the mouth of two or three witnesses let a thing be established. Like I shared earlier we have two sides to sign of Nineveh. The people in the world who cannot discern the times and the people of Jerusalem who knew their Lord's will but did not prepare. We are about to see them both get judged.

9. Prior to the two cities of Nineveh the eclipse crosses a place called "Rapture Indiana", the only place in the US named Rapture.

10. This is immediately after it crosses "Little Egypt".

11. The last place the April 8th Eclipse crosses in the US before leaving is the Boston Post Road (this is in Maine). This is a reference to the delivery of mail and we should view these three eclipses as being a message from the Lord to us.

12. Taken together the three eclipses make the letter Aleph in Hebrew and also Tav. In Greek that would be "Alpha and Omega" the Lord's signature. Sixty times in the OT Aleph Tav is in the text but is not translated. When Jesus said He was the alpha and Omega those that knew the OT in Hebrew knew what He was talking about. These three eclipses were "nailed" to the US, a sign that has never occurred previously in the last six thousand years of human history. When the Jews said "we seek a sign from You" the word for sign in Hebrew is the three letters, Aleph, Vav, and Tav. Vav means "nail".
 

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Thank God for YouTube scholars, especially ones who hedge their bets across the 3 western concepts of time. If we get past May 18, 2024, it will be interesting to at some point be able to ask AI to analyze Scripture for us and tell us when we should be ready to go. I wonder if AI will be concerned about being left behind.

My eschatology breath may now be depleted.

Have fun...
The nice thing about signs in the heaven is they can only be made by God.

The second nice thing is we can be sure they are signs of seasons because God told us that is why He put them there.

The third nice thing is they were used by Daniel and the Magi to recognize the Lord's first coming and since pattern is prophesy we should expect them to be used for the second coming.

The fourth nice thing is few people can interpret these signs, so they really separate out the posers from the genuine.

The fifth nice thing is they bring out the mockers and scoffers. It is like when you are finishing a piece of wood. The finish dries and causes the little hairs of the wood to stand up where they can be sanded off and the surface made very smooth.
 

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3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
 

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So then, what does this warning tell us is coming in 2024?

This is my best understanding, again like a weatherman looking at the data and making an educated guess. There is no "thus saith the Lord". The sign in the heaven was from the Lord, I am doing the best I can to interpret it.

1. We will see these Palestinian protests grow and spread to the streets creating chaos.

2. We will see Inflation reach a new high. Right now the dollar has lost 33% of its purchasing power since Biden was elected, when the Middle East agrees to sell oil to China in a different currency it will drop to 50% of its purchasing power and then you will see a collapse of the US dollar.

3. One contributing factor to the inflation will be a lack of wheat imports. Drought in Russia, war in Ukraine, floods in Brazil and storms in the Midwest will all result in a total lack of grain imports.

4. The collapse of the US dollar will accompany the US being unable to pay entitlements (welfare, SS, etc). This will cause the protests in the street to increase exponentially, becoming riots.

5. This will push us to civil war.

6. UN and US force Israel to be split and to create a Palestinian state

7. Within a week, and most likely within hours of this happening at the UN massive earthquakes will split the US along the Mississippi river and also in California.’ The US will be in pieces both literally and figuratively as states secede from the union.

8. It is highly probably that this earthquake will be the opening of the sixth seal which I believe is the rapture.
 

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RED ALERT: GOD IS WARNING AMERICA THE SAME WAY HE DID PHARAOH AND EGYPT

 

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I doubt you do either..
Sure I do. He declares that he does NOT understand eschatology. Further, he decries anyone who says that they DO understand.
He is therefore disqualified. Why hear the man further?

BTW.....it is you that quoted him directly, used his as a scholarly reference, and supplied a link to his (cough cough) "work".

Dan 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise SHALL understand.