Dad shoots laptop of rebellious daughter with his 45

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kayem77

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Hmm...hard to judge, I don't know the girls story, I don't know if she was really treated like a slave like she said, or if she was really a brat like the dad said, but for some reason I don't think that was the right way to handle the situation. One of my reasons is that ...well I'm guessing the family isn't christian, but Idk, they don't mention it...but if we are thinking about christian discipline I don't think it was a good example. With discipline also comes love, anyway, I don't really know the situation, just this video, and it didn't give me a good impression.
 
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I just heard this is going to be the subject of a radio talk show tomorrow here in the Los Angeles area. It will be on KFI 640AM in the afternoon on the Leslie Ann Warren Show. Can't wait to listen to it! :)
 
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I support this father, and I do not see how this was at all violent.

How old is the girl? 15? When I was 15, and if I even thought about speaking to another adult I would have probably been beaten. Which I would have deserved.
This teenage girl came off as spoiled, and extremely disrespectful. She had already been grounded once before because of similar actions so the father took a different approach.

To those that think what he did was unacceptable you need to consider certain things.

1. She is a minor. A minor at a very impressionable age. There is absolutely NOTHING at all wrong with a parent monitoring a MINORS internet activity. He didn't turn his back and pretend nothing was happening. He mae himself aware of a situation, and decided to to something about it. How is that bad parenting?

2. She was disrespecting her parents via internet, and Daddy turned the tables on her. There is no excuse for any child to disrespect a parent in that manner. He only showed her the same respect she showed him.

3. He shot a laptop. WOW. Bad bad daddy! A laptop that HE purchased maybe and paid to have it updated and so on? She chose to disrespect her parents so he chose to get rid of the problem where she would not be able to do it again. It was not violent. He did not point a gun at her or threaten to shoot someone with it.

So, if people think he is a bad parent and made bad choices in how he handled the situation then put yourself in his shoes. It is NOT easy raising a child at all, and when you are disrespected by your own child it is like a knife in the chest.

He is aware of his kids, and what they do. He is attentive, and in this day and age there are less attentive parents.
Then again maybe it would have been better for him to pretend she never said such vile things about him and his wife. He shoould have just shrugged it off. Then she could continue being a spoiled little brat, and possibly turn out of control and become violent herself. Then, maybe when she is a couple years older and even more disrespectful daddy can then do something about her behavior.

Some of you may think he was way too harsh, but I guarantee you she will think twice before she pulls the same stunt again.

The world is full of choices, and with every choice comes consequences. She made the wrong choice.

I applaud the dad, and I will continue to do so.
 
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It strikes me as an unintelligent, barbaric way to teach a lesson. No matter what the teen did. He is the dad. It's up to both parents to raise her to treat her family with respect in a smart and wise way. Not get brutal revenge when it's too late. His reaction was more than a bit messed up...no offense anyone. Her bad behavior was an obvious cry for help.
I think there should have been a much better way to handle this.

Someone on here said it sounded more like revenge than punishment. I agree.
 
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Elizabeth619 said:
I support this father, and I do not see how this was at all violent.

How old is the girl? 15? When I was 15, and if I even thought about speaking to another adult I would have probably been beaten. Which I would have deserved.
This teenage girl came off as spoiled, and extremely disrespectful. She had already been grounded once before because of similar actions so the father took a different approach.

To those that think what he did was unacceptable you need to consider certain things.

1. She is a minor. A minor at a very impressionable age. There is absolutely NOTHING at all wrong with a parent monitoring a MINORS internet activity. He didn't turn his back and pretend nothing was happening. He mae himself aware of a situation, and decided to to something about it. How is that bad parenting?

2. She was disrespecting her parents via internet, and Daddy turned the tables on her. There is no excuse for any child to disrespect a parent in that manner. He only showed her the same respect she showed him.

3. He shot a laptop. WOW. Bad bad daddy! A laptop that HE purchased maybe and paid to have it updated and so on? She chose to disrespect her parents so he chose to get rid of the problem where she would not be able to do it again. It was not violent. He did not point a gun at her or threaten to shoot someone with it.

So, if people think he is a bad parent and made bad choices in how he handled the situation then put yourself in his shoes. It is NOT easy raising a child at all, and when you are disrespected by your own child it is like a knife in the chest.

He is aware of his kids, and what they do. He is attentive, and in this day and age there are less attentive parents.
Then again maybe it would have been better for him to pretend she never said such vile things about him and his wife. He shoould have just shrugged it off. Then she could continue being a spoiled little brat, and possibly turn out of control and become violent herself. Then, maybe when she is a couple years older and even more disrespectful daddy can then do something about her behavior.

Some of you may think he was way too harsh, but I guarantee you she will think twice before she pulls the same stunt again.

The world is full of choices, and with every choice comes consequences. She made the wrong choice.

I applaud the dad, and I will continue to do so.
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A really smart guy earlier on this post said

"While I don't agree with what the daughter did. I don't agree with what the father did either. She is complaining about distance in the family, and the feeling of being a captive. All he did with this is enforce her feelings and anger towards him. Not to mention, he violated her privacy and stamped out her freedom of speech. And I am willing to bet he is big about the US constitution.

But again, the daughter is being a brat. "

I totally agree with that statement :D
 
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Not to mention, he violated her privacy and stamped out her freedom of speech. And I am willing to bet he is big about the US constitution.

But again, the daughter is being a brat. "

I totally agree with that statement :D
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He was not trying to snoop into her account. He found the letter by accident. An account that they had set up for the dog, is how he found it.
 
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Saul_Durian said:
A really smart guy earlier on this post said

"While I don't agree with what the daughter did. I don't agree with what the father did either. She is complaining about distance in the family, and the feeling of being a captive. All he did with this is enforce her feelings and anger towards him. Not to mention, he violated her privacy and stamped out her freedom of speech. And I am willing to bet he is big about the US constitution.

But again, the daughter is being a brat. "

I totally agree with that statement :D
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Wow I agree with this :) bravo to the one who said it
 
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Saul_Durian said:
A really smart guy earlier on this post said

"While I don't agree with what the daughter did. I don't agree with what the father did either. She is complaining about distance in the family, and the feeling of being a captive. All he did with this is enforce her feelings and anger towards him. Not to mention, he violated her privacy and stamped out her freedom of speech. And I am willing to bet he is big about the US constitution.

But again, the daughter is being a brat. "

I totally agree with that statement :D
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like i said, she is a minor. as a parent he has every right to know what she is doing. thats just how i feel
 
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like i said, she is a minor. as a parent he has every right to know what she is doing. thats just how i feel
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I agree, you do have a right to know what your kids are doing. I am a parent, so I am right with ya. I just don't think this was a very positive way to deal with the decision.


BUT!! I do not live in that house, I don't know this girl, I don't know the family. It may have been very justified considering other factors. Maybe she is always talking smack. Maybe she totally made the statement up..Maybe, as someone pointed out it was a hoax. I can really only judge the situation as an armchair quarterback (aka idiot) and cast my judgment based solely on this video.
 
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GO DAD! I raised 5 and wish I'd have had a gun at times. Just kiddin'. BUT, great disciplinary step.
 
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I agree, you do have a right to know what your kids are doing. I am a parent, so I am right with ya. I just don't think this was a very positive way to deal with the decision.


BUT!! I do not live in that house, I don't know this girl, I don't know the family. It may have been very justified considering other factors. Maybe she is always talking smack. Maybe she totally made the statement up..Maybe, as someone pointed out it was a hoax. I can really only judge the situation as an armchair quarterback (aka idiot) and cast my judgment based solely on this video.
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Yep. We have to condiser many factors. I will say that he is an old fashioned southern dad. I am an old fashioned TN girl. It may sound dumb, but strict parents are common down here in the holler. :D

Im used to it.
 
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GO DAD! I raised 5 and wish I'd have had a gun at times. Just kiddin'. BUT, great disciplinary step.
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You just reminded me of a quote I read once. Made me giggle.

“Before I got married I had six theories about raising children; now, I have six children and no theories.”
― John Wilmot

So funny, but sooooo true!
 
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Yep. We have to condiser many factors. I will say that he is an old fashioned southern dad. I am an old fashioned TN girl. It may sound dumb, but strict parents are common down here in the holler. :D

Im used to it.
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There is a huge difference between strict and abusive.

I know in you're mind that the man in the video demonstrated proper behavior, in my mind what he did was uncalled for. I have a 21 year old Son and have raised several children and not once did I ever use a firearm to prove my point.

He seems like the type of person that would end up on the jerry springer show.

You have your'e set of ethic's and I have mine. You and I strongly disagree.

You have your'e definition of the strict parenting and I have my own.
 
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Nalu said:
There is a huge difference between strict and abusive.

I know in you're mind that the man in the video demonstrated proper behavior, in my mind what he did was uncalled for. I have a 21 year old Son and have raised several children and not once did I ever use a firearm to prove my point.

He seems like the type of person that would end up on the jerry springer show.

You have your'e set of ethic's and I have mine. You and I strongly disagree.

You have your'e definition of the strict parenting and I have my own.
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He shot a computer and he belongs on Jerry Springer?

Wow.
 
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I have to agree, the father was not setting a good example to his daughter. Evil does not overcome evil, and if he wanted her to change, he should have been more realistic and not to have destroyed a perfectly good laptop. I mean, that should have been out of the question if he really cared about the $100 that he supposedly spent on software for it. He just lost not only the software but the laptop too which is worth at least 3 times more than the laptop. He should have given the laptop away to a needy person rather than destroy it.

I just don't see any mercy or good fruit in this act, it was an act of parental terrorism. No fruit seems to come of it except a gall of bitterness and resentment. Bitterness both for the daughter and the father, an act of vengeance and a declaration of war.
 
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He just spent money to upgrade the laptop, he has EVERY right to destroy it..
 
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To destroy it maybe, but shooting at it?

The bible tells not only kids to obey their parents, but also parents not to make their children angry (on puropse)
 
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To destroy it maybe, but shooting at it?

The bible tells not only kids to obey their parents, but also parents not to make their children angry (on puropse)
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She is a teenager. Grounding her would make her angry. It is hard NOT to make a teenager angry.
 
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yes, but shotting an object seems like an ATTMEPT to do so, and that is NOT the same
 
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