Democrats insults Mexicans in wikleaks

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RachelBibleStudent

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Ultimatum77 said:
That's just spin by the media for more anti-Russian sentiment to lead up to a war with Russia. Got to keep feeding the military industrial complex and bankers afterall.....that's their MO. It's just a way to distract from the corruption of Clinton and the democratic party.

Plus guccifer is a notorious Romanian hacker not russian. This guy is called Guccifer 2 which may be a copy cat but also claims to be Romanian. Last I heard was the original guccifer was still in jail for cyber crimes/hacking. This story has zero validity imo.
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“We’ve been looking at this very closely from both the technical and non-technical spheres,” said Richard Barger, chief information officer for ThreatConnect, a cyber-intelligence software firm. “Based on our analysis, we strongly feel Guccifer2 is linked to a Russian information operations campaign and is not the independent Romanian hacker that he claims to be.”
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Mitspa

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Ultimatum77 said:
That's just spin by the media for more anti-Russian sentiment to lead up to a war with Russia. Got to keep feeding the military industrial complex and bankers afterall.....that's their MO. It's just a way to distract from the corruption of Clinton and the democratic party.

Plus guccifer is a notorious Romanian hacker not russian. This guy is called Guccifer 2 which may be a copy cat but also claims to be Romanian. Last I heard was the original guccifer was still in jail for cyber crimes/hacking. This story has zero validity imo.
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Wiki leaks said they can prove this is nonsense and will in the next few days ..so let these conspiracy nutts get way out on the limb of nonsense.
 
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Mitspa

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jennymae said:
I don't believe for a minute that "these people" are defending anything but their own interests. And I don't like the idea of shady organizations like those lead by one guy currently residing in an embassy in London getting influence. Nobody knows who is behind them, it might as well be organizations not having the Western civilizations well being in mind.
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I disagree and I think they have just destroyed any chance Hillary had to be president ...Thank God
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Mitspa said:
Whatever you think about WikiLeaks is your own opinion ...I think they hold all western governments accountable to the people ...and they have just done our nation a great service...I would give them a award of some sort.
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as i posted in another thread...wikileaks studiously avoids holding the russian government accountable...and many of its releases have very obvious political motivations...

hacking is a crime...and you would give criminals an award? what's next? a congressional medal of honor for hillary clinton?
 
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Ultimatum77

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RachelBibleStudent said:
so foreign nationals now hold a whole american election in their hands according to you...and you are -ok- with this??

you are practically cheerleading the open subversion of our republic now...i am pretty sure there is a word for that...coincidentally it starts with the same letters as 'trump'...
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To be honest it's been subverted for at least the last 30 yrs or so with bushes and clintons (or their derivatives like obama) working for globalist/corporate interests abroad. Trump as far as I can tell has not been paid by russians/chinese for secrets like Clinton has been.

A source like wikileaks keeps politicians on their toes, it is a force for accountability which is sorely lacking these days.
 
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Mitspa said:
Wiki leaks said they can prove this is nonsense and will in the next few days ..so let these conspiracy nutts get way out on the limb of nonsense.
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I am a little worried. WikiLeaks has an agenda. We don't know that agenda...but why are they only leaking documents from western countries, and the US in partucular?

Looks like good ole KGB methods...
 
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Mitspa

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WikiLeaks is a multi-jurisdictional public service designed to protect whistleblowers, journalists and activists who have sensitive materials to communicate to the public. Since July 2007, we have worked across the globe to obtain, publish and defend such materials, and, also, to fight in the legal and political spheres for the broader principles on which our work is based: the integrity of our common historical record and the rights of all peoples to create new history.
We believe that transparency in government activities leads to reduced corruption, better government and stronger democracies. All governments can benefit from increased scrutiny by the world community, as well as their own people. We believe this scrutiny requires information. Historically that information has been costly - in terms of human life and human rights. But with technological advances - the internet, and cryptography - the risks of conveying important information can be lowered.
In its landmark ruling on the Pentagon Papers, the US Supreme Court ruled that "only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government." We agree.
We believe that it is not only the people of one country that keep their government honest, but also the people of other countries who are watching that government. That is why the time has come for an anonymous global avenue for disseminating documents the public should see.
 
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Mitspa

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jennymae said:
I am a little worried. WikiLeaks has an agenda. We don't know that agenda...but why are they only leaking documents from western countries, and the US in partucular?
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Look at some of the stories they have broken and exposed .. I think they are very needed in our western society ..and of course most of their stories are in regards to the English speaking world
 
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Mitspa said:
Look at some of the stories they have broken and exposed .. I think they are very needed in our western society ..and of course most of their stories are in regards to the English speaking world
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You're one stubborn Tennessee boy:p

My concern is that WikiLeaks and their sidekicks not only are protecting whistleblowers etc etc, but also are meddling with politics in a non transparent way. That is disturbing.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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jennymae said:
You're one stubborn Tennessee boy:p

My concern is that WikiLeaks and their sidekicks not only are protecting whistleblowers etc etc, but also are meddling with politics in a non transparent way. That is disturbing.
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i too am disturbed at the thought of criminals from another country infiltrating our republic...

...we should build a cyber wall and make wikileaks pay for it!
 
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Mitspa

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jennymae said:
You're one stubborn Tennessee boy:p

My concern is that WikiLeaks and their sidekicks not only are protecting whistleblowers etc etc, but also are meddling with politics in a non transparent way. That is disturbing.
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If telling the evident truth (with clear evidence) and exposing corruption is meddling? Then we need more of it... If the Dems had not been cheating and got caught ..they would be no issue ...don't blame the folks that caught the crooks...blame the crooks
 
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Ultimatum77

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jennymae said:
You're one stubborn Tennessee boy:p

My concern is that WikiLeaks and their sidekicks not only are protecting whistleblowers etc etc, but also are meddling with politics in a non transparent way. That is disturbing.
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Last time I checked, Julian Assange never ran for any office. They accused him of all sorts of crimes and indecencies just to smear his name and discredit him. He's doing a job similar to what the so called "free-press" is supposed to be doing but hasn't for almost 50 years which is tell the truth with no agenda.
 
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Mitspa

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RachelBibleStudent said:
i too am disturbed at the thought of criminals from another country infiltrating our republic...

...we should build a cyber wall and make wikileaks pay for it!
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haha...thats why Trump is going to build a wall and stop the muslims terrorist ... and if a free-press is criminal to you? Then you are in need of a constitutional lesson. if telling the truth is offensive to you? You need a biblical lesson.
 
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Mitspa

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Reports that FB has just blocked folks from linking to WikiLeaks ... leftwingers are always like Nazis
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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i remember back in the watergate era when breaking into a political party's property for the purpose of political espionage was so widely understood to be a crime that it resulted in the resignation of a sitting president...

now we have some people calling the digital equivalent of the watergate burglary an act of heroism and saying we need more of it...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Mitspa said:
If telling the evident truth (with clear evidence) and exposing corruption is meddling? Then we need more of it... If the Dems had not been cheating and got caught ..they would be no issue ...don't blame the folks that caught the crooks...blame the crooks
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the problem with your argument here is that the crooks got caught by -other crooks-

i hold -all- of the crooks accountable...
 
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