Donald J Trump for President

[Sirk]

I'd appreciate it if people would read the article before commenting. This is a counter to all the Trump bashing based on someone's emotional reasoning. I've asked for people to provide proof that Trump is all those negatives that people and the media want to unashamedly and wrongly accuse him of being. I personally am fed up with the innuendo and falsehoods that the "Christian right" try to put forth against him. I believe that many are afraid of him because of the feminized nation we have become. A strong man who speaks from his heart is sadly foreign and offensive to many. It's time for men to be men again.

Here you go, straight from the horses mouth.

Jared Kushner: The Donald Trump I Know | | Observer

 

[Desdichado]

Great article. Donald Trump is many things and I'll state unequivocally that he was close to rock bottom of the pack for me when this whole show started. The time it takes between getting out of bed and heading to the polling place will largely be determined by who he puts around him/says he'll put around him in a prospective Trump administration.

He isn't a pillar of character. He does make me wonder why we couldn't find something better. But he isn't a racist, an Anti-Semite, or a totalitarian. He doesn't want to destroy the American social fabric and engineer a replacement. He has a tendency to pander and court conservative Christians rather than blame them for terrorist attacks. While not perfect on guns, he has affirmed the basic validity of the Second Amendment.

He's a wild-card and he's shown that he's politically pliable rather than implacable. That beats Mrs. Clinton in my mind.

 

[Willie-T]

She needs to have her overly sensitive, PC mind examined. (His employee who got her feelings hurt.)

 

[Sirk]

Great article. Donald Trump is many things and I'll state unequivocally that he was close to rock bottom of the pack for me when this whole show started. The time it takes between getting out of bed and heading to the polling place will largely be determined by who he puts around him/says he'll put around him in a prospective Trump administration.

He isn't a pillar of character. He does make me wonder why we couldn't find something better. But he isn't a racist, an Anti-Semite, or a totalitarian. He doesn't want to destroy the American social fabric and engineer a replacement. He has a tendency to pander and court conservative Christians rather than blame them for terrorist attacks. While not perfect on guns, he has affirmed the basic validity of the Second Amendment.

He's a wild-card and he's shown that he's politically pliable rather than implacable. That beats Mrs. Clinton in my mind.

i don't know why but I liked him from the get go. I suppose it has to do with my upbringing and the culture I lived in. A spade was a spade if you know what I'm saying. People didn't pull punches and we settled things like men. If you were an idiot you got called on it, and there wasn't a pc term to be found. My friends on res don't care about the Washington redskins. Just proof that all this division is manufactured by the elitists to hold onto their grip of power....and the right are lemmings to the left.

 

[Voldemort]

If even the slightest infraction against what the speech police have deemed correct speech is instantly shouted down with taunts of “racist” then what is left to condemn the actual racists? What do we call the people who won’t hire minorities or beat others up for their religion?

It's as if Jared Kushner thinks all racists are equal in their racism. There are different levels of racist people. Some people hate a race so much they murder them. Others will only beat them to a bloody pulp. And many will just use their protected speech to spew hatred towards them. What do they all have in common though? They all have racist sentiments...

Now, before any Trump supporter thinks I'm calling Trump a racist, please reread what I said. I'm not making any judgment of who Trump is in his heart.

 

[Sirk]

It's as if Jared Kushner thinks all racists are equal in their racism. There are different levels of racist people. Some people hate a race so much they murder them. Others will only beat them to a bloody pulp. And many will just use their protected speech to spew hatred towards them. What do they all have in common though? They all have racist sentiments...

Now, before any Trump supporter thinks I'm calling Trump a racist, please reread what I said. I'm not making any judgment of who Trump is in his heart.

So now we are grading racism on a curve? Makes sense to make something already confusing even more so. Lol. I saw a news article today where some black "ladies" were beating up a white lady while screaming "I hate white people". The judge refused to prosecute them based on "hate" crime statutes. Maybe their crime was low enough on your grade scale to render it just a crime. Lol

 

[Voldemort]

So now we are grading racism on a curve? Makes sense to make something already confusing even more so. Lol. I saw a news article today where some black "ladies" were beating up a white lady while screaming "I hate white people". The judge refused to prosecute them based on "hate" crime statutes. Maybe their crime was low enough on your grade scale to render it just a crime. Lol

Is there not a curve?

Every citizen has broken/will break a law, thus, we could be labeled as law-breakers. However, not all law-breakers are equal. Some people murder (against the law), some people steal cars (against the law), some people pull the "do not remove" labels on mattresses (is that really against the law? lol)...

I've personally known someone who hates anyone not White. I've personally known someone else who was accepting of Latinos/Asians, but NOT Blacks. I've known someone that hated Whites and Latinos, and another who accepted Latinos but hated Whites. That is just one aspect of the curve... the other aspect is to what degree do they hate/disdain them.

 

[Desdichado]

It's as if Jared Kushner thinks all racists are equal in their racism. There are different levels of racist people. Some people hate a race so much they murder them. Others will only beat them to a bloody pulp. And many will just use their protected speech to spew hatred towards them. What do they all have in common though? They all have racist sentiments...

Now, before any Trump supporter thinks I'm calling Trump a racist, please reread what I said. I'm not making any judgment of who Trump is in his heart.

I don't think that is necessarily the claim he is making (though I do agree with you on that score).

Kushner is mainly observing that the term "racist" is overused. Either employed deliberately as a smear or used because leftists have taken to apply the label "racist" to anything against their sensibilities. Something of a dangerous and peculiar learned reaction.

Heck, a few months ago a man told me I was a "Grand Wizard of the KKK" until I kindly informed him that my mother's maiden name is Jewish. The week before I was told my views on tax policy were racist (I want a flat tax or a consumption- based tax rather than...whatever we have).

Racist rhetoric exists and it's all fine and dandy to point it out. In fact, as someone who probably has an unclaimed heirloom from Germany with a Star of David on it, I encourage the public thrashing of real racial supremacists of all stripes. So-called "progressives" have made my quest to that end far more difficult.

 

[Sirk]

Is there not a curve?

Every citizen has broken/will break a law, thus, we could be labeled as law-breakers. However, not all law-breakers are equal. Some people murder (against the law), some people steal cars (against the law), some people pull the "do not remove" labels on mattresses (is that really against the law? lol)...

I've personally known someone who hates anyone not White. I've personally known someone else who was accepting of Latinos/Asians, but NOT Blacks. I've known someone that hated Whites and Latinos, and another who accepted Latinos but hated Whites. That is just one aspect of the curve... the other aspect is to what degree do they hate/disdain them.

In my opinion this is dangerous. Because now we get into the realm of thought crime. People are free to think what they want too...no matter how ugly that is. A crime is a crime and those can be graded on a curve because they are tangible and evidence only exists in the tangible.....did they plan their murder or was it done out of passion etc.

 

[Voldemort]

I don't think that is necessarily the claim he is making (though I do agree with you on that score).

Kushner is mainly observing that the term "racist" is overused. Either employed deliberately as a smear or used because leftists have taken to apply the label "racist" to anything against their sensibilities. Something of a dangerous and peculiar learned reaction.

Heck, a few months ago a man told me I was a "Grand Wizard of the KKK" until I kindly informed him that my mother's maiden name is Jewish. The week before I was told my views on tax policy were racist (I want a flat tax or a consumption- based tax rather than...whatever we have).

Racist rhetoric exists and it's all fine and dandy to point it out. In fact, as someone who probably has an unclaimed heirloom from Germany with a Star of David on it, I encourage the public thrashing of real racial supremacists of all stripes. So-called "progressives" have made my quest to that end far more difficult.

I would agree that it is definitely a smear campaign against Trump. I've not really found as much substance, even the star of David retweet to make me seriously contemplate if Trump is really a racist. My gut tells me he isn't at all.

However, Trump does/says stuff that definitely could be misconstrued as racist. He makes it easy for the left to attack him. It's so easy, people actually question if he is a plant for the Democratic party to ensure Hillary wins the presidency. Regardless of that theory being true or not, it makes logical sense.

What the left is doing, brilliantly I might add, is lumping "sexist" with "racist". Why? Because there is ample evidence (video and audio) to suggest Trump is sexist. The logic being, "Well, if we can prove he is a sexist using legitimate evidence, we can just show the illusion he is racists and people will assume he's both." Is this fair? No, but it's quite effective.

 

[Mitspa]

As Muslims declare their outright hatred for jews and kill them on a daily basis ..we Get the only man willing to stand against these racist accused of racism while the true racist are excused by the political left... Anyone that don't think the people see right through this nonsense are living in a left-wing bubble. Trump is going to roll over Hillary and the left in these next elections like Reagan did.

 

[Angela53510]

Not that my opinion counts, but here are my thoughts.

In the early and late spring we ended up at my son's place, who is an accountant, and very big into the business world. He had the TV on nightly to anything about Trump. I watched a lot of hours, because I wanted to visit. And I discovered a loud mouthed boor, who is nasty, a show boat and a jerk.

The other thing, which some people might see as a plus, is that he really knows nothing about politics, international relations or economics. (That is more the theory about what makes economies run, not having a business that doesn't go into bankruptcy, which yes, Trump has done!)

I think Hilary would definitely be the wrong choice, and I just want to know why she didn't get charged. One law for HC and another for the rest of the country, I guess!

But Trump is not the right choice, either. I don't get why, with over 330 milion people, the US couldn't find a decent candidate. Of course we have Trudeau, but at least Harper, our PM of 10 years was a Christian and kept our country conservative economically too! I sure miss him!

 

[Sirk]

Not that my opinion counts, but here are my thoughts.

In the early and late spring we ended up at my son's place, who is an accountant, and very big into the business world. He had the TV on nightly to anything about Trump. I watched a lot of hours, because I wanted to visit. And I discovered a loud mouthed boor, who is nasty, a show boat and a jerk.

The other thing, which some people might see as a plus, is that he really knows nothing about politics, international relations or economics. (That is more the theory about what makes economies run, not having a business that doesn't go into bankruptcy, which yes, Trump has done!)

I think Hilary would definitely be the wrong choice, and I just want to know why she didn't get charged. One law for HC and another for the rest of the country, I guess!

But Trump is not the right choice, either. I don't get why, with over 330 milion people, the US couldn't find a decent candidate. Of course we have Trudeau, but at least Harper, our PM of 10 years was a Christian and kept our country conservative economically too! I sure miss him!

In short, I think Trump is the only one equipped and has the courage to stand up to the media and the politicians and beat them at their own game.

 

[Mitspa]

Not that my opinion counts, but here are my thoughts.

In the early and late spring we ended up at my son's place, who is an accountant, and very big into the business world. He had the TV on nightly to anything about Trump. I watched a lot of hours, because I wanted to visit. And I discovered a loud mouthed boor, who is nasty, a show boat and a jerk.

The other thing, which some people might see as a plus, is that he really knows nothing about politics, international relations or economics. (That is more the theory about what makes economies run, not having a business that doesn't go into bankruptcy, which yes, Trump has done!)

I think Hilary would definitely be the wrong choice, and I just want to know why she didn't get charged. One law for HC and another for the rest of the country, I guess!

But Trump is not the right choice, either. I don't get why, with over 330 milion people, the US couldn't find a decent candidate. Of course we have Trudeau, but at least Harper, our PM of 10 years was a Christian and kept our country conservative economically too! I sure miss him!

This is about the rejection of the establishment in both parties ...that why Trump, Cruz and even Bernie have done so well. The American people are tired of the criminal political class ...and Trump is an expression of that. As far as what kind of leader he will be? No matter what he will be 10 times better than Obama and the Bush folks ... who have sold our nation out.

 

[JimmieD]

i don't know why but I liked him from the get go. I suppose it has to do with my upbringing and the culture I lived in. A spade was a spade if you know what I'm saying. People didn't pull punches and we settled things like men. If you were an idiot you got called on it, and there wasn't a pc term to be found. My friends on res don't care about the Washington redskins. Just proof that all this division is manufactured by the elitists to hold onto their grip of power....and the right are lemmings to the left.

Is this really a reason to give a positive vote for someone for President? Surely, "because I really like the guy," "he doesn't pull punches," and "he calls it like he sees it" aren't a good reasons.

 

[Sirk]

Is this really a reason to give a positive vote for someone for President? Surely, "because I really like the guy," "he doesn't pull punches," and "he calls it like he sees it" aren't a good reasons.

Gimme some reasons not to then. So far no one has been able too. Maybe you can be the first but I doubt it.

 

[jennymae]

Is this really a reason to give a positive vote for someone for President? Surely, "because I really like the guy," "he doesn't pull punches," and "he calls it like he sees it" aren't a good reasons.

Some friends of mine are Trumpsters, and they are like Trump is some sort of divine gift to America for being blunt about things everybody else isn't. I don't think, on the other hand, that they have been analyzing his politics. I know some Hillary supporters and they are equally crazy. Thing is, in this general the sane folks ain't gonna be throwing away their votes on two crooked candidates.

 

[JimmieD]

Gimme some reasons not to then.

Here's one: because you don't seem to have a good reason to do so.

So far no one has been able too. Maybe you can be the first but I doubt it.

In rational discourse, the person making the claim has the burden of proof. By the same token, if you're giving a positive vote for someone it would only be logical to have a good reason to do so. Having been given no reasons to not-give your vote isn't itself a reason to give a positive vote. All that does is continue to establish that you have no reasons to give a positive vote. So instead of engaging in "begging the question," do you have any good reasons for giving a positive vote?

 

[Sirk]

Here's one: because you don't seem to have a good reason to do so.



In rational discourse, the person making the claim has the burden of proof. By the same token, if you're giving a positive vote for someone it would only be logical to have a good reason to do so. Having been given no reasons to not-give your vote isn't itself a reason to give a positive vote. All that does is continue to establish that you have no reasons to give a positive vote. So instead of engaging in "begging the question," do you have any good reasons for giving a positive vote?

Ya that's what atheists say about the existence of God. Not buying it.

 

[JimmieD]

Ya that's what atheists say about the existence of God. Not buying it.

Reasonable people should have good reasons for believing the things we believe as well as good reasons for doing the things we do. I don't know why this would be controversial.

...And this has nothing to do with atheism. I don't know where that comment came from out of left field. In any case, it's off topic and a red herring for addressing the problem at hand.