Gas attack in Syria

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[video=youtube;IZrIqdWQFjI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZrIqdWQFjI[/video]
Dina Kalmeta sounds quite pleased with it all. I suppose if you are hoping not to be around when it happens you will be too.
 

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Syrian "victims" of Assad's gas "attack" appear in the Hague (Netherlands) and openly testify that there was no gas attack and that they were never victimized:



The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : 'No Attacks, No Victims': Syria Chemical Attack Video Participants Speak At OPCW Briefing


Russian officials brought fifteen people to The Hague from the city of Douma, Syria, said to have been present during the alleged April 7 chemical attack - including 11-year-old Hassan Diab, who was seen in a widely-distributed video taken by the controversian NGO organization known as the "White Helmets," who filmed themselves giving Diab "emergency treatment" after the alleged incident.

“We were at the basement and we heard people shouting that we needed to go to a hospital. We went through a tunnel. At the hospital they started pouring cold water on me,” said Diab, who was featured in the video which Russia's ambassador to the Netherlands says was staged.

The boy and his family have spoken to various media outlets, who say there was no attack.

Others present during the filming of Diab's hospital "cleanup" by the White Helmets include hospital administrator Ahmad Kashoi, who runs the emergency ward.




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Isn't it interesting how some people who said there were WMD in Iraq and others who said gas attacks took place previously testified under condition of anonymity whereas these people OPENLY say there was no such attack.
 

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[Any country] can win any war

That is correct. A nation needs only 300 soldiers as per Judges 7 not one
of whom needs to engage in combat according to Psalm 81:13-15.
This would be false.

Can you show any verse that says this apply's to any nation
[other then] the Nation of Israel in the bible?


In Leviticus 26:19, God warns Israel that disobedience has one outcome:
“I will break the pride of your power.” America, the most powerful nation
on Earth, is currently being broken in the Middle East.
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This would be correct below.
The United States would be very wise to start following God again.
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You also have a twisted view of history, and trusting Russia and China,
not to mention trusting the number one state sponcer of terror, that's Iran.

By the way, the bible says Syria will not be aligned with Iran
in the end time,but will soon side with Germany anyway.
 
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peacenik

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[Any country] can win any war



This would be false.

Can you show any verse that says this apply's to any nation
[other then] the Nation of Israel in the bible?


In Leviticus 26:19, God warns Israel that disobedience has one outcome:
“I will break the pride of your power.” America, the most powerful nation
on Earth, is currently being broken in the Middle East.
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This would be correct below.
The United States would be very wise to start following God again.
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You also have a twisted view of history, and trusting Russia and China,
not to mention trusting the number one state sponcer of terror, that's Iran.

By the way, the bible says Syria will not be aligned with Iran
in the end time,but will soon side with Germany anyway.



I see nothing in the Bible which indicates that the Mosaic or Messianic laws are restricted to any one group.
 

prove-all

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I see nothing in the Bible which indicates that
the Mosaic or Messianic laws are restricted to any one group.
You mean the "blessing and cursess" given only to Israel, not any nation.
You would have to post a verse that shows or gives other nations [this protection]
 
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This was God telling the Isrealites that the blessings and curses was their choice Do the right thing, blessings, Do the wrong things , curses. As he had done to all other nations. The descendants of Abraham flesh seed was blessed through generation. all of Isaac's flesh seed was blessed. These were the Hebrews and their descendants. Jacob's seed and descendants were given the name Isrealites but former were hebrews.
 

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This was God telling the Isrealites that the blessings and curses was their choice Do the right thing, blessings, Do the wrong things , curses. As he had done to all other nations. The descendants of Abraham flesh seed was blessed through generation. all of Isaac's flesh seed was blessed. These were the Hebrews and their descendants. Jacob's seed and descendants were given the name Isrealites but former were hebrews.


and Christians are now heirs to the same promises made to Abraham: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3:29&version=NIV
 

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Again this promise of God protecting a nation, and [fighting for them],was given to
the Nation of Israel- not any nation. The subject of a single person is something else.

if that is what you wish to believe, then so be it
 

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Right, they were blessed in wealth and substance and not protection. from war as the Isrealites.
 

peacenik

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Now may the Lord of peace himself give you his peace at all times and in every situation. The Lord be with you all.


2 Thessalonians 3:16 NIV/NLT
 

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if that is what you wish to believe, then so be it
You only have I known of all the families of the earth;
Therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.” Amos 3:2




And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your enemies
from before you, and have made you a great name, like the name of the great men
who are on the earth.
 
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Now may the Lord of peace himself give you his peace at all times and in every situation. The Lord be with you all.


2 Thessalonians 3:16 NIV/NLT
Nothing there says God would fight other nations battles for them,
except the nation of Israel
 

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I see nothing in the Bible which indicates that the Mosaic or Messianic laws
are restricted to any one group.

So you are saying everything in the old testement about Isreal, is for us today?
Does that mean you keep Gods statues, judgements and laws, and Gods Holy Sabbaths?
 
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Nothing there says God would fight other nations battles for them,
except the nation of Israel

While the New Testament teaches "all" and "every situation", there is likely enough flexibility in its teachings to allow differing interpretations based on denominational preferences.
 

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As for me, "every situation" clearly bespeaks of being applicable under all circumstances. This especially in view that God "remembers his covenant forever" [Psalm 111:5], that Jesus is the High Priest of the New and Better Covenant "[FONT=&quot]with the people of Israel [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and with the people of Judah" [/FONT][Hebrews 8], and that Christians are now part of the two covenants as per Galatians 4:22-24.

Previously, I quoted Galatians 3:29 where it is written that Christians are now heirs to the Promise. Since God vowed to keep his initial covenant forever, and has now created a new and better covenant, why would not extend the same provisions of the Promise to all? After all, do father choose favorites?


And so if you wish to disagree, so be it. But I stand by what I wrote as there is no indication that there is no basis for believing what I quoted from the Bible.