Getting annoyed with the animals in this country History being destroyed
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Lol wut? How would u know what everyone's SAT scores were here? Academic knowledge is one thing, political views are another thing entirely. Did you know Trump is a graduate of the most prestigious business school in the US? Its alumni include Warren Buffet, Elon Musk and many other highly successful and educated businessmen and women. His daughter Ivanka and son Erik are also alumni.
I have mixed feelings.
Slavery was a big issue regarding the war. Just read some of Lincolns speeches.
And if one wants to insist it was not then, well regardless, it is the main point now.
I can defintely see both sides of the arguments.
Of course the liberals smell blood so they are going for it. This is a long time agenda of theirs.
Still, again, gliberals aside, some good decent people may genuinely be sensitive to the statues.
Slavery was a big issue regarding the war. Just read some of Lincolns speeches.
And if one wants to insist it was not then, well regardless, it is the main point now.
I can defintely see both sides of the arguments.
Of course the liberals smell blood so they are going for it. This is a long time agenda of theirs.
Still, again, gliberals aside, some good decent people may genuinely be sensitive to the statues.
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History is important.Take a look at any country that has tried to erase their history and see what kind of place it is to live in. But to take your point and run with it,Im a Canadian transplant. In New England there are cemeteries where Loyalists are buried. I would be considered a Loyalist. What if I said I was offended by anything named "Patriot",and I wanted any statue of that war taken down,any school or street with reference to that war erased? See where that leads?
The south was allowed to lose with dignity,it was meant to heal the country. Instead of ripping down statues,why not erect more statues to black soldiers and people of note? Why rip the country apart? Its because the far left doesn't care whether they tear the country apart,that is their goal. And the people aren't seeing it. I hope beyond hope that people will wake up and stop this PC nonsense.
The south was allowed to lose with dignity,it was meant to heal the country. Instead of ripping down statues,why not erect more statues to black soldiers and people of note? Why rip the country apart? Its because the far left doesn't care whether they tear the country apart,that is their goal. And the people aren't seeing it. I hope beyond hope that people will wake up and stop this PC nonsense.
K
They are trying to wipe out the south because they cling to their Bibles and their guns,as someone famous once said. They want to wipe out the moral majority. They want abortion,LGBQJDJDHEDDHSJSX,they want socialism,they want to destroy the country. And to do that you need to make them look evil. You need to invent words like "xenophobe" and beat them with it. You need to make them bigots,racists,anything that will stick. They want socialism/communism and they have to bring down the country to do it.
K
Considering you're not from this country perhaps you out not to make judgement calls on its people. If you think having better SAT scores makes you a better,more moral person,or even a smarter person, shows how unbelievably immature you are. No one virtue signals more than the far left considering it was the Southern Democrats that began the KKK and the Dems that stood on the side of racism and for segregation for years. Now Nancy Pelosi wants to get rid of all confederate statues and the old crow has been in gov't since Noah got off the ark. Gender identity didn't get them elected,so they're going back to an old favorite,the blacks and the grievance industry,and ride them all the way back into the WH.
K
I'll believe this is sincere when they begin taking down anything dedicated to Senator Byrd,or when they take down this bust...
Anyone know who this is? Why is the far left not outraged by this bust that sits in the Smithsonian today?! Its nonsense and has nothing to do with people being offended by the confederacy. People need to wake up.
Did you know Bobby Byrd had his own fiddle album? It totally fits.
I'll believe this is sincere when they begin taking down anything dedicated to Senator Byrd,or when they take down this bust...
Anyone know who this is? Why is the far left not outraged by this bust that sits in the Smithsonian today?! Its nonsense and has nothing to do with people being offended by the confederacy. People need to wake up.
Anyone know who this is? Why is the far left not outraged by this bust that sits in the Smithsonian today?! Its nonsense and has nothing to do with people being offended by the confederacy. People need to wake up.
That’s nice.
However I wasn’t talking about Trump or politics. I was merely addressing another member’s fear that “carpetbaggers” are in major universities. You know – dissecting various factors that could lead to that.If we had to dissect Trump and his associates, I wouldn’t think he represents the majority of the people who voted for him. Pew Research released some interesting figures on the voter demographics of the election, just regarding college grads.
Quoting verbatim:
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College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980.
For example, in 2012, there was hardly any difference between the two groups: College graduates backed Obama over Romney by 50%-48%, and those without a college degree also supported Obama 51%-47%.
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Anyway, that should be another topic. However this thread was about the glorification of confederate statues – which is not a political issue because there have been plenty of Republicans who have supported the removal of the figures. Perhaps, as a general observation: not everything is about Trump sadly and not every viewpoint different from yours has to be seen as an attack against your core beliefs.
perhaps rather than pious, you meant pietistic? it seems that word choice would have put more punch in the comment.
i dunno, i never got a degree; i just like words.
i dunno, i never got a degree; i just like words.
Why would you want to associate Christian values with the veneration of statues that represent slavery and suppression to a section of society?Whew, posting spree – but I am mostly done with the thread. I am only going to post what an exemplary American Christian man shared earlier on social media and who with greater eloquence expressed what I expected from Christians.
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There is no object, nor is there even a creature on earth, with the worth and value of a human being. Each one was uniquely created, formed, and fashioned by God and equally possesses impassable worth. With that said, we are called to "love thy neighbor." Think about the people that you love--those who you hold most dearly. If they told you outright that something you were doing was painful, would you not do whatever you could to stop?
The more I think about it, the more I find it cold and unloving to hear and read people who are so much quicker to defend a statue than they are to defend the human beings they are called to love. They say we should read history books. 'Listen to the history books. You'll see they weren't so bad.' Why aren't we just as eager, if not more, to listen to the voices of the hurting--those who are actually still alive? How can it even be a question whether we prioritize human dignity over a statue? To you it may just be a "dark piece of history," but to others it is a symbol of pain, abuse, and oppression that just a few generations before them endured. That is not something you downplay.
We have a prime opportunity to practice loving our neighbor. I encourage you, once you're done with the biographies and history books, to give an ear to the people you share this country with today who still have a lot of wounds that need binding. Instead of defending, downplaying, or deflecting, just listen. We have a long way to go, and that is only the first step in the right direction. Why put it off any longer?
I conclude with a few Martin Luther King Jr. quotes:
"Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will."
"Property is intended to serve life, and no matter how much we surround it with rights and respect, it has no personal being. It is part of the earth man walks on. It is not man."
"The first question which the priest and the Levite asked was: 'If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?' But the good Samaritan reversed the question: 'If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen him?'"
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There is no object, nor is there even a creature on earth, with the worth and value of a human being. Each one was uniquely created, formed, and fashioned by God and equally possesses impassable worth. With that said, we are called to "love thy neighbor." Think about the people that you love--those who you hold most dearly. If they told you outright that something you were doing was painful, would you not do whatever you could to stop?
The more I think about it, the more I find it cold and unloving to hear and read people who are so much quicker to defend a statue than they are to defend the human beings they are called to love. They say we should read history books. 'Listen to the history books. You'll see they weren't so bad.' Why aren't we just as eager, if not more, to listen to the voices of the hurting--those who are actually still alive? How can it even be a question whether we prioritize human dignity over a statue? To you it may just be a "dark piece of history," but to others it is a symbol of pain, abuse, and oppression that just a few generations before them endured. That is not something you downplay.
We have a prime opportunity to practice loving our neighbor. I encourage you, once you're done with the biographies and history books, to give an ear to the people you share this country with today who still have a lot of wounds that need binding. Instead of defending, downplaying, or deflecting, just listen. We have a long way to go, and that is only the first step in the right direction. Why put it off any longer?
I conclude with a few Martin Luther King Jr. quotes:
"Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will."
"Property is intended to serve life, and no matter how much we surround it with rights and respect, it has no personal being. It is part of the earth man walks on. It is not man."
"The first question which the priest and the Levite asked was: 'If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?' But the good Samaritan reversed the question: 'If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen him?'"
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