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s ObamaCare continues to disappoint, some states are pushing for a single-payer replacement within their borders. Vermont is working to create such a system; Hawaii’s governor has singled out single-payer as the only potential replacement for his state’s failing exchange. And legislators have offered up proposals to institute single-payer in California, New York, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Colorado.
Single-payer’s cheerleaders cite Canada as proof of the system’s superiority. It’s a foolish fetish: Our northern neighbor’s health-care system is plagued by rationing, long waits, poor-quality care, scarcities of vital medical technologies and unsustainable costs. That’s exactly what’s in store for America if we follow Canada’s lead.
As a native of Canada, I’ve seen this reality firsthand. To keep a lid on costs, Canadian officials ration care. As a result, the average Canadian has to wait 4½ months between getting a referral from his primary-care physician to a specialist for elective medical treatment — and actually receiving it.
Mind you, “elective treatment” in Canada doesn’t mean Botox or a tummy tuck. We’re talking about life-or-death procedures like neurosurgery, orthopedic surgery or cardiovascular surgery.
The false promise of single-payer healthcare | New York Post
by: Sally C. Pipes
Vermont is learning this high-tax reality firsthand. One Democratic state representative has admitted that its single-payer system will “cost more” than the initial estimate of $1.6 billion to $2.2 billion a year. Avalere Health, a consultancy, estimates that the state will have to essentially double its tax revenue to pay for the system.
You still haven't answered the question. Obamacare is not a single payer system.
My question was "What does a single payer healthcare have to do with "free stuff".
I'll even loosen the requirement a little. What is wrong with free health care? Don't give me the ridiculous line "it doesn't work". There is not a single country with it that would give it up. Do you honestly believe that God is against universal health care?
My question was "What does a single payer healthcare have to do with "free stuff".
I'll even loosen the requirement a little. What is wrong with free health care? Don't give me the ridiculous line "it doesn't work". There is not a single country with it that would give it up. Do you honestly believe that God is against universal health care?
If I'm not mistaken, at least a percentage of this problem was solved under either Reagan or Bush Sr. There was a time where everything that the DoD procurred had to have a MilSpec rating and those items being purchased had to be tested (at the cost of the manufacturer) to test that they met MilSpec. For those unaware, MilSpec is one of the most stringent specification standards and the testing process is extremely expensive. Unless I'm sadly mistaken it was under one of the aforementioned administrations that the DoD was ordered to procure things like office supplies, non-specialized tools, etc via regular means versus MilSpec.
Even at that, I work in construction and over the years have worked on a number of DoD construction projects. DoD construction projects typically have a cost of one and a half to two times a similar civilian project due to their extremely strict standards.
I would agree with you on this in that the DoD budget typically grows by leaps and bounds from what the DoD requests to what Congress gives them. Every Senator and Congressman with a military base or DoD contractor in their district is adding money and projects to the budget to bring that money home to their district. Here in Colorado Springs our economy rises and falls on DoD money having five military bases of varying sizes here. I've read numerous articles over the years about programs that the DoD has wanted to eliminate but Congress keeps forcing them down the DoD's neck.
Even at that, I work in construction and over the years have worked on a number of DoD construction projects. DoD construction projects typically have a cost of one and a half to two times a similar civilian project due to their extremely strict standards.
I would agree with you on this in that the DoD budget typically grows by leaps and bounds from what the DoD requests to what Congress gives them. Every Senator and Congressman with a military base or DoD contractor in their district is adding money and projects to the budget to bring that money home to their district. Here in Colorado Springs our economy rises and falls on DoD money having five military bases of varying sizes here. I've read numerous articles over the years about programs that the DoD has wanted to eliminate but Congress keeps forcing them down the DoD's neck.
DoD projects are inherently more expensive because of the environment that they operate in. Simple examples. If a rifle misfires occasionally, a hunter might lose a meal or two, but a soldier may lose his life. Passenger aircraft may pull two or three gs, but in combat an aircraft will pull over 9gs. When you add the burden of politicians' pet projects, DoD project managers start wit a disadvantage.
Bernie Sanders actually makes a lot of sense but the fact that he is a socialist makes me distrustful because if he wins then our taxes will go through the roof.... I do like how he plans to go after these major pharmaceutical companies and medical suppliers because it's really just a legal form of extortion and they have been getting away with it for far too long. I also like how he address the issue of college. Many people go to college for 4 years and then are in debt for the rest of their life. Then with the economy the way it is you have a slim chance of finding a job that you just spent all that money studying so essentially you have a $40,000 piece of paper
You guys seem to be forgetting something. We are living longer and the medical intervention that is occuring is increasing and costing more. As people get more frail and dependent, the question is where is the tipping point between withdrawal of ability and provision of support.
Over the past 40 years wealth has gone from the majority to the minority. These two forces will lead to either dictatorship of the minority over the majority or redistribution of wealth and the rebalancing of power.
Now which method you support determines the level of violence and problems our society is going to go through.
Or have you never read history?
Over the past 40 years wealth has gone from the majority to the minority. These two forces will lead to either dictatorship of the minority over the majority or redistribution of wealth and the rebalancing of power.
Now which method you support determines the level of violence and problems our society is going to go through.
Or have you never read history?
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My dad had a unique thought about insurance companys.
If they were all out lawed, everything would be cheaper.
Without auto ins everyone would drive more carefully.
Without health insurance, every one would take better care of themselves and not run to the doctor or hospital unless they were really sick.
Didn't say it would work, said it was unique.
If they were all out lawed, everything would be cheaper.
Without auto ins everyone would drive more carefully.
Without health insurance, every one would take better care of themselves and not run to the doctor or hospital unless they were really sick.
Didn't say it would work, said it was unique.
Definitely wouldn't work.
I spent 7 years of my life driving tow trucks for a living and on those occasions where a driver was involved in a collision and didn't have insurance invariably they were the one at fault.
As for health insurance, persons without health insurance are by far less likely to have routine physicals in which case quite often by the time they are sick enough to pay a doctor bill their condition is considerably worse and more expensive to treat. Likewise, persons with health insurance are more likely to take their children with the sniffles or the flue to a family physician whereas persons without said health insurance are more likely to take those same kids to the ER (considerably more expensive) because the ER cannot turn them away due to inability to pay.
I spent 7 years of my life driving tow trucks for a living and on those occasions where a driver was involved in a collision and didn't have insurance invariably they were the one at fault.
As for health insurance, persons without health insurance are by far less likely to have routine physicals in which case quite often by the time they are sick enough to pay a doctor bill their condition is considerably worse and more expensive to treat. Likewise, persons with health insurance are more likely to take their children with the sniffles or the flue to a family physician whereas persons without said health insurance are more likely to take those same kids to the ER (considerably more expensive) because the ER cannot turn them away due to inability to pay.