GOP Presidential Nomination

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i'm getting the feeling that his idea of "great christian president" has something to do with embroiling us in a world-wide religious war and little to do with charity, meekness or piety. but hey, one way or another, the US has to wind up at Armageddon, right?
We are in a world wide religious war already...its the establishment clowns that are trying to fight a PC war that are getting us killed and going to get thousands more killed.
 
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Historically, it is a massive undertaking for Trump. He will have to learn the humility, rectitude, and dignity of George Washington.

Knowing Trump, he would approach it like Alexander approached the Gordian Knot.
George Washington also has a pretty lurid history and involvement in that witch coven. Like I said, not a tall order for to be the greatest Christian president in America. If Trump will thrust the pagan religions from the land somewhat without killing any people, and will stop the suppression of Christianity then he has good chance to fulfill his promise.
 

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George Washington also has a pretty lurid history and involvement in that witch coven. Like I said, not a tall order for to be the greatest Christian president in America. If Trump will thrust the pagan religions from the land somewhat without killing any people, and will stop the suppression of Christianity then he has good chance to fulfill his promise.
A witch coven? You can't be serious.
 
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A witch coven? You can't be serious.
Sadly I am serious, George Washington was a masonic witch, frankly I thought that was common knowledge.

Anyways George Washington is long dead, hope he left that witch coven before he died, but I guess we'll never know. As for the here and now, just finished watching the debate. Great debate frankly, was very pleased with all the candidates, even Carson did okay. Trump did good, he played solid defense and you can see now some of the GOPers coming around to his logic to fight islam, which is good. Really though big surprise of the night was Rand Paul. Rand Paul just smacked it out of the ballpark all night long. I'm going to just say Rand Paul won this debate hands down. Whether it will help him though in the campaign, that we will see.
 

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Props to CNN. This was the best debate of the bunch.
 
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Props to CNN. This was the best debate of the bunch.
Yea no doubt. Knew Wolf Blitzer be a good moderator for pressing the foreign policy issues. Blitzer might not be a super genius, but he's a good interviewer/questioner for the subjects they went through.
 

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Sadly I am serious, George Washington was a masonic witch, frankly I thought that was common knowledge.

Anyways George Washington is long dead, hope he left that witch coven before he died, but I guess we'll never know. As for the here and now, just finished watching the debate. Great debate frankly, was very pleased with all the candidates, even Carson did okay. Trump did good, he played solid defense and you can see now some of the GOPers coming around to his logic to fight islam, which is good. Really though big surprise of the night was Rand Paul. Rand Paul just smacked it out of the ballpark all night long. I'm going to just say Rand Paul won this debate hands down. Whether it will help him though in the campaign, that we will see.
Ah, so the validity of your statement depends on how one defines "witch coven" and whether American Freemasonry of 18th century qualifies as one.
 

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Yea no doubt. Knew Wolf Blitzer be a good moderator for pressing the foreign policy issues. Blitzer might not be a super genius, but he's a good interviewer/questioner for the subjects they went through.
Hugh Hewitt was annoying, but that was my only qualm.
 

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I do think the three things that cost Mitt the election was:

1. His quotes, such as you have mentioned in your point, among others (I think how he said he loves to fire people in an election that was very much about jobs was perhaps even the worst.)

2. The disgraceful way he cannibalized and slandered all the other GOP candidates. Indeed, for how disgraceful the GOP treated Ron Paul alone, even arresting delegates and barring them from the convention did turn the critical amount of votes away from the GOP, maybe for an entire generation.

3. Mormonism. The big elephant in the room the media didn't want to talk about, but frankly it did factor into many people's decision.
I voted for Mitt, but because he said that the economy was in terrible shape, when it was rebounding a little, it made him sound like he either wasn't paying attention or was lying. After hearing him say that, I didn't really want to vote for him. He might have gotten the nod if he had acknowledged the improvement in the economy, but mentioned how much faster it would be rebounding with a Republican in office.
 
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Hugh Hewitt was annoying, but that was my only qualm.
Lol yea I liked Wolf and Dana Bash's approaches better, but I have read Hugh Hewitt before, he's not a bad commentator. Even though he might come across brash I think he was trying to give the candidates some room of fairness while still trying to be tough. I liked how they let the candidates kinda battle more too. Like the Rubio vs Cruz battles, It's a tough call on that one, depends what you want out of them, for the conservatives they gonna like Rubio and for the tea conservatives they gonna like Cruz. Their arguments are just red meat for their bases. Really impressed with Rand Paul like I said, Rand Paul really shows the common sense, surprisingly on foreign policy which was allegedly his perceived weak point. It's like this either you want a decisive foreign policy president like Trump that's more hardline or you want one that is decisive that is more dovish like Rand Paul. Everyone else pretty much falls into a spectrum between those two. So it's most logical to just figure out which one of the two extremes you like better. I like Paul better, Trump was right not to start the war, but Trump's mentality is that since we're all ready there let's just totally wreck em and plunder them. Paul's position is never should have been there to begin with, get the heck out now before some real crazy crap happens. I like Paul's position better.

Lol that and frankly best debate moment by far was Rand Paul finally finally just smashing Christie down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFHmRBcZ_VU
[video=youtube;DFHmRBcZ_VU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFHmRBcZ_VU[/video]

Oh man this GOP race is getting real interesting. First Trump gets appealing and Cruz starts rising. Now Rand Paul runs in strong too. I'd say after all the debates and political epicness to cut my short list down to Kasich, Trump, Paul, Rubio, Bush, and Cruz.
 
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Ah, so the validity of your statement depends on how one defines "witch coven" and whether American Freemasonry of 18th century qualifies as one.
Indeed, and I believe it valid by their own statements, works, and other give aways, but nevertheless the point is not so much against a dead man or a witch hunt. Them masons are mostly old people dying off cause young people not into that creepy stuff. The point is to highlight that it is still possible in Jesus for Trump to actually fulfill that promise if he holds strong to ending the persecution and suppression of Christianity and to put away our enemies, without killing anyone.


They are still I suppose harsh tactics to some, having to shut down the mosques and stop Islamic migration, but they must be done, don't have to kill anyone. The others have sweet words and tone, but their policies amount to basically let islam proliferate in our borders and even bomb muslims and kill them with more war thus leading to more migration and hatred. It makes no sense. If America is going to bomb them and make them our enemy, don't bring them in to slay our people, bring in the Christians they are persecuting instead. Trump's only problem is he wants to go further into the war. That's why I like Rand Paul now, only one saying to get out. Well I suppose besides Bernie Sanders, but I think we all know the DNC rigged that one for Hillary lol.
 

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Lol yea I liked Wolf and Dana Bash's approaches better, but I have read Hugh Hewitt before, he's not a bad commentator. Even though he might come across brash I think he was trying to give the candidates some room of fairness while still trying to be tough. I liked how they let the candidates kinda battle more too. Like the Rubio vs Cruz battles, It's a tough call on that one, depends what you want out of them, for the conservatives they gonna like Rubio and for the tea conservatives they gonna like Cruz. Their arguments are just red meat for their bases. Really impressed with Rand Paul like I said, Rand Paul really shows the common sense, surprisingly on foreign policy which was allegedly his perceived weak point. It's like this either you want a decisive foreign policy president like Trump that's more hardline or you want one that is decisive that is more dovish like Rand Paul. Everyone else pretty much falls into a spectrum between those two. So it's most logical to just figure out which one of the two extremes you like better. I like Paul better, Trump was right not to start the war, but Trump's mentality is that since we're all ready there let's just totally wreck em and plunder them. Paul's position is never should have been there to begin with, get the heck out now before some real crazy crap happens. I like Paul's position better.

Lol that and frankly best debate moment by far was Rand Paul finally finally just smashing Christie down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFHmRBcZ_VU
[video=youtube;DFHmRBcZ_VU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFHmRBcZ_VU[/video]

Oh man this GOP race is getting real interesting. First Trump gets appealing and Cruz starts rising. Now Rand Paul runs in strong too. I'd say after all the debates and political epicness to cut my short list down to Kasich, Trump, Paul, Rubio, Bush, and Cruz.
Even shorter, Trump, Rubio, Cruz.
 
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Lol well Cruz isn't a natural born citizen so he can't be president. Just keeping him around for the show of it I guess.
You keep beating this drum but it simply isn't true. At any rate...I'm not a huge Cruz fan at this stage of the game. The only leadership he has thus far proven is that he can go way out on a limb all by himself.
 
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You keep beating this drum but it simply isn't true. At any rate...I'm not a huge Cruz fan at this stage of the game. The only leadership he has thus far proven is that he can go way out on a limb all by himself.
Lol actually it is true. Cruz was born in Canada, that's all there is to it. He amuses me though, I'll let him keep amusing me.
 
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Lol actually it is true. Cruz was born in Canada, that's all there is to it. He amuses me though, I'll let him keep amusing me.
To American citizen parents. Doesn't matter if he was born on Mars.
 
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To American citizen parents. Doesn't matter if he was born on Mars.
Lol pretty sure you gotta be a natural born citizen to be president. Cruz was naturally born in Canada, can't be president, that's all there is to it. That's okay though, we'll keep him around in the Senate.
 
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Lol pretty sure you gotta be a natural born citizen to be president. Cruz was naturally born in Canada, can't be president, that's all there is to it. That's okay though, we'll keep him around in the Senate.
Youre confused as to the definition of natural born.
 
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Youre confused as to the definition of natural born.
Not at all. Natural born means they were born in America. You can tell by comparison to the requirements for the lesser offices which only require one to have been a citizen for X amount of years. To be president you have to be from America. Cruz is from Canada, tough luck for him I guess.