Hillary to make it official Sunday

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Galahad

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This is scary. Very scary.

Bill Clinton 8 years.

George Bush 8 years.

Barrack Hussein Obama 8 years.

Hillary Clinton 8 years.

Now watch the pattern. First black president - Barrack Hussein. Then the first female former first lady Hillary Clinton.
If this pattern holds...(Now take a deep breath. This is going to get ugly...)

Michelle Obama - the first, first black lady president.

Come to think about it, MO could easily chide Hillary and win the election.
 
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Galahad

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When I was in High School a small group of students including myself would pray at the flagpole for the safety of every student in the country, our president, and the peace of Israel. Where two or more are gathered God is there.
Yes. Amen. Praise to the Lord God Almighty.
 
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cmarieh

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This is scary. Very scary.

Bill Clinton 8 years.

George Bush 8 years.

Barrack Hussein Obama 8 years.

Hillary Clinton 8 years.

Now watch the pattern. First black president - Barrack Hussein. Then the first female former first lady Hillary Clinton.
If this pattern holds...(Now take a deep breath. This is going to get ugly...)

Michelle Obama - the first, first black lady president.

Come to think about it, MO could easily chide Hillary and win the election.
It is pretty frightening, but if I remember correctly she didn't even make it through the primaries last time. I don't think she will make it through the primaries this one either, all we have to do is keep praying. Praying that a better Democratic nominee will make it through.
 
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Highly informed is one thing, understanding is another. Highly informed by whom? Campaign slogans, jargons, accusations, media hype, twist on the truth.

Here's an example.
A local election.
A Yes vote on Proposition A will raise millions of dollars for local school repair through a bond issue.
The average voter receives a flier in the mail. "Vote YES on A." It states that the money raised from the bond issue will not be used to pay for salary increases, administrative costs. All of the funds will go to repairs and upgrades.

Unfortunately, that one flier has said enough to win voters to a YES vote on a bond issue for schools.

That's just one example. People might be informed (Yes, everything on the flier is true), but they don't understand, they don't think. Having information is one thing, but knowing and learning and researching what it actually means is another.

Here's an indication of ignorance at the voting booth. Reading the voter's guide while voting. What? Yes, I've seen it. They stand there and read the voter's guide while in the booth. The voter's guide is a start, but there's more to being an informed and smart voter than simply relying on the guide.
Your points here show well my point. The problem is not lack of information, but rather saturation of information. Americans consume so much information and are inundated with information that the real effort is in discerning and sifting through it all.

Though I suppose even that is a moot point because the American voter will vote for all sorts of reasons ranging from the simple to the complex. It has not escaped my awareness that for political campaigns the issue isn't so much convincing Americans of this or that, for most have their minds made up all ready. Rather it is getting them to show up to vote in the first place.
 
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Galahad

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...Hillary is no Hitler...
How about Die Hexe von Buchenwald?
No?

Then how about Irma Grese?
No?

How about Queen Mary I (Bloody Mary)?

Okay, let's stick with the Bible. Jezebel?
No again!

Would you allow for Lady Tremaine? (It comes with the word: Lady.)

Okay. You win. She's Hillary Clinton dressed up as Hillary Clinton. That's bad enough for me.
 
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cmarieh

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LOOK: I don't understand why there is so much arguing going on. Can't we just agree to pray for the future leader of this country that whoever it is will protect our rights that our founding fathers worked so hard to establish? Our country was founded on the gospel of Christ and we need to be on our hands and knees praying for our future leader.
 

Desdichado

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This is scary. Very scary.

Bill Clinton 8 years.

George Bush 8 years.

Barrack Hussein Obama 8 years.

Hillary Clinton 8 years.

Now watch the pattern. First black president - Barrack Hussein. Then the first female former first lady Hillary Clinton.
If this pattern holds...(Now take a deep breath. This is going to get ugly...)

Michelle Obama - the first, first black lady president.

Come to think about it, MO could easily chide Hillary and win the election.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions...and novelty candidates.
 
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How about Die Hexe von Buchenwald?
No?

Then how about Irma Grese?
No?

How about Queen Mary I (Bloody Mary)?

Okay, let's stick with the Bible. Jezebel?
No again!

Would you allow for Lady Tremaine? (It comes with the word: Lady.)

Okay. You win. She's Hillary Clinton dressed up as Hillary Clinton. That's bad enough for me.
Hillary is very symbolic of the old-school American woman. She tough, ambitious, beautiful, and tries her best to keep her family together despite how much the forces of the enemy try to humiliate her.
 
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Galahad

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Hillary is very symbolic of the old-school American woman. She tough, ambitious, beautiful, and tries her best to keep her family together despite how much the forces of the enemy try to humiliate her.
Old school American woman? What is that?

Humiliate her? Who would that be? Her husband and an intern under his desk?

She's pro-abortion. Favors, condones, advocates, supports same sex unions. Benghazi? "What difference does it make?"
She has supported and worked with Barrack Hussein Obama. Biggest buffoon of US presidents.

Tries to keep her family together? Tough job. Especially when she and Bill were broke when they left the White House!

She has no problem keeping her family together. Her family is safe. They sleep well, just the other side of guarded walls and iron gates.

The fight is not hers.

Do morals or virtues mean anything to you?

Since when has abortion, same sex marriage, deception, irresponsibility ever promoted the family as God would have it?
Tell me.
 

Desdichado

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Hillary is very symbolic of the old-school American woman. She tough, ambitious, beautiful, and tries her best to keep her family together despite how much the forces of the enemy try to humiliate her.
This is a description of Sarah Palin, not Hillary Clintion.

Clinton is a spent hag who gladly made a Faustian bargain for political power. Tough? Ambitious? Of course, but a classic American woman she is not. If she were that woman, she would be reviled for being the feminist equivalent of an Uncle Tom by the crowds that currently embrace her.
 

Desdichado

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I'd love to toss Hillary in the ring with the Iron Lady and watch the fireworks.
 
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Old school American woman? What is that?

Humiliate her? Who would that be? Her husband and an intern under his desk?

She's pro-abortion. Favors, condones, advocates, supports same sex unions. Benghazi? "What difference does it make?"
She has supported and worked with Barrack Hussein Obama. Biggest buffoon of US presidents.

Tries to keep her family together? Tough job. Especially when she and Bill were broke when they left the White House!

She has no problem keeping her family together. Her family is safe. They sleep well, just the other side of guarded walls and iron gates.

The fight is not hers.

Do morals or virtues mean anything to you?

Since when has abortion, same sex marriage, deception, irresponsibility ever promoted the family as God would have it?
Tell me.
Old school American woman suffers much, but stays strong and goes forward.

Many people try to humiliate Hillary because of her husband's adultery. Yet it is only further testimony to the fact that Hillary forgave her husband to keep her family together and kept all American people from being utterly disgraced.

That is what she has done with her own family.
 

Desdichado

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Old school American woman suffers much, but stays strong and goes forward.

Many people try to humiliate Hillary because of her husband's adultery. Yet it is only further testimony to the fact that Hillary forgave her husband to keep her family together and kept all American people from being utterly disgraced.

That is what she has done with her own family.
It's a testimony more to the fact her marriage was a cheap, soulless union based on mutual political interest. She stayed in it for career advancement and nothing more.

That's how she'll spin it though and it might work. I hope that is the point you are trying to make and not that you are actually drinking her cool aid.

If she succeeds it will be because she is not some archetype of the American woman, but a politically calculative harpy with good staff and a man you could loosely call a husband who happens to be the most popular American president alive today.
 
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It's a testimony more to the fact her marriage was a cheap, soulless union based on mutual political interest. She stayed in it for career advancement and nothing more.

That's how she'll spin it though and it might work. I hope that is the point you are trying to make and not that you are actually drinking her cool aid.

If she succeeds it will be because she is not some archetype of the American woman, but a politically calculative harpy with good staff and a man you could loosely call a husband who happens to be the most popular American president alive today.
If Hillary can forgive Bill then so can I. It was never Hillary's fault to begin with. Why do they blame and shame on Hillary? She could have destroyed Bill and tarnished every American in the world in the process and still have run for all her offices, and probably have gotten them by wider margins. She chose a better path to forgive and keep her family and America together. So many have tried to humiliate her for it for decades, but they only humiliate themselves.

The attack ads from the GOP immediately after her announcement showed the real losers of the GOP. Rand Paul disappointed me so much that he just lost my vote in the GOP primary. This Carly Fiorina, she is getting all this buzz saying Hillary is inexperienced. I actually laughed out loud to this one. This woman's political experience is losing an election to Barbra Boxer and she say Hillary have no experience?

Here is my experience. When I saw that Chen Guanchen, big controversial anti-abortion activist in China escaped house arrest I desired my servants to help him if it would chance him to come to us. I prayed for his safety. Many people prayed to Jesus he be safe. Jesus answereth and direct the blind man's feet to the US embassy! Massive modern miracle just that alone, praise to Jesus! Yet it gets better not only is he safe, but in our hands. Our servant, Hillary Clinton worked out a genius legalistic loophole to keep him safe here out of the hands of persecution without sacrificing peace with China. Shucks, going on Bill Clinton even he was retired and still Jesus used him to free Lisa Ling and Euna Lee from the clutches of Kim Jong-il!

It's like the 20th Century AD and the 1st Century AD had one epic baby and called it the 21st Century. There are kings, and knights, and miracles all around. Jesus has used Clintons like as tools before to get him rightly deserved worship and praise and to answer our prayers. I am not voting for either party, but I would not be surprised nor sorrowful if he lets Hillary wins.
 
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Galahad

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Old school American woman suffers much, but stays strong and goes forward.

Many people try to humiliate Hillary because of her husband's adultery. Yet it is only further testimony to the fact that Hillary forgave her husband to keep her family together and kept all American people from being utterly disgraced.

That is what she has done with her own family.
"Kept all American people from being disgraced."
That had already happened.

But do morals or virtues have any value? Hillary supports: Abortion. Deception. Same sex marriage. Socialism.
 

Desdichado

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If Hillary can forgive Bill then so can I. It was never Hillary's fault to begin with. Why do they blame and shame on Hillary? She could have destroyed Bill and tarnished every American in the world in the process and still have run for all her offices, and probably have gotten them by wider margins. She chose a better path to forgive and keep her family and America together. So many have tried to humiliate her for it for decades, but they only humiliate themselves.

The attack ads from the GOP immediately after her announcement showed the real losers of the GOP. Rand Paul disappointed me so much that he just lost my vote in the GOP primary. This Carly Fiorina, she is getting all this buzz saying Hillary is inexperienced. I actually laughed out loud to this one. This woman's political experience is losing an election to Barbra Boxer and she say Hillary have no experience?

Here is my experience. When I saw that Chen Guanchen, big controversial anti-abortion activist in China escaped house arrest I desired my servants to help him if it would chance him to come to us. I prayed for his safety. Many people prayed to Jesus he be safe. Jesus answereth and direct the blind man's feet to the US embassy! Massive modern miracle just that alone, praise to Jesus! Yet it gets better not only is he safe, but in our hands. Our servant, Hillary Clinton worked out a genius legalistic loophole to keep him safe here out of the hands of persecution without sacrificing peace with China. Shucks, going on Bill Clinton even he was retired and still Jesus used him to free Lisa Ling and Euna Lee from the clutches of Kim Jong-il!

It's like the 20th Century AD and the 1st Century AD had one epic baby and called it the 21st Century. There are kings, and knights, and miracles all around. Jesus has used Clintons like as tools before to get him rightly deserved worship and praise and to answer our prayers. I am not voting for either party, but I would not be surprised nor sorrowful if he lets Hillary wins.
We clearly live in two separate universes.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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This Carly Fiorina, she is getting all this buzz saying Hillary is inexperienced. I actually laughed out loud to this one. This woman's political experience is losing an election to Barbra Boxer and she say Hillary have no experience?
Fiorina ran in a heavily Democratic state where she had little chance of winning and gave Boxer a true run for her money.

Hillary was elected in New York, also heavily Democratic, which assured her of a win.

As SecState, she was clueless: Giving a "reset button" to Russia, which Putin promptly took to mean he could do anything he wanted. She wants everyone to think she was AWOL during Benghazi, which I guess is a better explanation than "I was in the Situation Room and was completely ignorant" about her own department's facility security issues abroad and couldn't bring herself to demand that AirHead Obama send planes and paratroopers from Italy -- only two hours away -- to a battle that lasted more than 13 hours.

"She's inexperienced" is indeed a questionable statement, but only because it is far more accurate to say she is oblivious.
 

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Fiorina ran in a heavily Democratic state where she had little chance of winning and gave Boxer a true run for her money.

Hillary was elected in New York, also heavily Democratic, which assured her of a win.

As SecState, she was clueless: Giving a "reset button" to Russia, which Putin promptly took to mean he could do anything he wanted. She wants everyone to think she was AWOL during Benghazi, which I guess is a better explanation than "I was in the Situation Room and was completely ignorant" about her own department's facility security issues abroad and couldn't bring herself to demand that AirHead Obama send planes and paratroopers from Italy -- only two hours away -- to a battle that lasted more than 13 hours.

"She's inexperienced" is indeed a questionable statement, but only because it is far more accurate to say she is oblivious.
She has experience in occupying alternate realities.
 
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Fiorina ran in a heavily Democratic state where she had little chance of winning and gave Boxer a true run for her money.

Hillary was elected in New York, also heavily Democratic, which assured her of a win.

As SecState, she was clueless: Giving a "reset button" to Russia, which Putin promptly took to mean he could do anything he wanted. She wants everyone to think she was AWOL during Benghazi, which I guess is a better explanation than "I was in the Situation Room and was completely ignorant" about her own department's facility security issues abroad and couldn't bring herself to demand that AirHead Obama send planes and paratroopers from Italy -- only two hours away -- to a battle that lasted more than 13 hours.

"She's inexperienced" is indeed a questionable statement, but only because it is far more accurate to say she is oblivious.
The Russian reset made sense at the time, everything was going well and Russia helping us fight islamic terrorism, whatever people call it these days. Then the Kiev protests happened, everything changed. Hillary weren't in office, though it is true Kerry has a peculiar place in the Ukraine issue. That is even more testament to the fact of how much Putin worries about Hillary that because of her comments, being "Retired" she is only American Putin cite by name during Yanukovych's fall and Crimea takeover. All ironically, while having Russian propaganda spread the Crimea River meme about Obama. That alone to have a pawn we know that gets under Putin's skin is an asset.

As for Benghazi. That will be a big issue, but I believe it is Obama that is the one that orders them helicopters or not. That's on Obama. The reason its linked to Hillary so much is Obama threw her under the bus because it was in prime time of election season, and Hillary did let him. Though it opens up a broader and fair topic to debate against Hillary, which is linking her to Obama. Which of course we do not want Obama again

Funny that Obama was running against McCain on the premise McCain is too much like Bush, and now of all the candidates of the GOP that had the best counter-Hillary announcement videos, it is a Bush ironically trying to make the case that Hillary is too much like Obama lol.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOzLLj-IxjM
[video=youtube;nOzLLj-IxjM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOzLLj-IxjM[/video]
 
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"Kept all American people from being disgraced."
That had already happened.

But do morals or virtues have any value? Hillary supports: Abortion. Deception. Same sex marriage. Socialism.
Yes they have value, but none of the candidates in this election will make positive change in those issues. The government has to represent and defend the American people no matter what they do. Therefore the solution to these problems must be solved directly by the people. Excepting for socialism which cannot exist off paper, the other issues can only see change to reduce or eliminat them at the personal level.