Homosexuality will destroy this and any country and needs to be recriminalized

[notuptome]

Thats a good point but the pretense for freedom and liberty was that the individual would choose to not deviate from the "bread and butter" of a functional society...which are morals.

Thats not happening, hence the end of the world,im not saying that freedom and liberty should be taken away from us "for our own good",im just saying that we are waaay beyond that.

Our commission is to be witnesses and to disciple the world not criminalize them. They are already guilty before God. Ours is to tell them unless they come to Christ and repent of their sins they will be condemned eternally in the lake of fire.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[serpentdove]

[Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). ] Laws do come from man and God expects us to obey them. This is Christianity 101 (Romans 13).

Laws come from God. It is for man to figure them out.

 

[serpentdove]

Our commission is to be witnesses and to disciple the world not criminalize them.

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

 

[DJ2]

Laws come from God. It is for man to figure them out.

I am truly sorry but I cannot understand your point. Could you stop speaking in generalities.

 

[Billyd]

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

And forgivable. (Mat 12:31-32,Luk 12:10,Mar 3:29,Col 3:13,Jas 5:15) Unless we share the Gospel, they may never know this.

 

[serpentdove]

[Laws come from God not man (1 Ti 1:8-10, Ac 5:29). It is for man to figure them out.] I am truly sorry but I cannot understand your point. Could you stop speaking in generalities.

Are you a humanist? If you break God's law, he's got a punishment for you (1 Ti 1:9).

See:

The Bible's Criminal Code by Bob Enyart

 

[notuptome]

Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

No argument but they have one greater than I who judges them.

Abraham would have the Lord to spare Sodom for even 10 righteous men. Lot was corrupted by living with them not that he took part in their uncleanness but that he tolerated it. Cost him his family.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[serpentdove]

...Abraham would have the Lord to spare Sodom for even 10 righteous men.

Do you believe Sodomites ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) are righteous?

 

[DJ2]

No argument but they have one greater than I who judges them.

Abraham would have the Lord to spare Sodom for even 10 righteous men. Lot was corrupted by living with them not that he took part in their uncleanness but that he tolerated it. Cost him his family.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

What is there to judge? It is our job to discern good from evil and act accordingly.

 

[DJ2]

Are you a humanist? If you break God's law, he's got a punishment for you (1 Ti 1:9).

See:

The Bible's Criminal Code by Bob Enyart

My point is simple. There are human made laws and they must be obeyed. You seem to be implying the opposite.

 

[serpentdove]

What is there to judge?

What does a murderer need? A hug? What does an adulterer need? To be made president?

 

[notuptome]

Do you believe Sodomites ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) are righteous?

Do you believe that Christ died for them?

No man is righteous. The sodomite is no better than the whoremonger.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[serpentdove]

[Are you a humanist? If you break God's law, he's got a punishment for you (1 Ti 1:9).] There are human made laws and they must be obeyed.

Ac 5:29

"Government is supposed to be a terror to evil works. What happens when they are a terror to good works?" ~ Chuck Missler

 

[preacher4truth]

That's why we legislate morality, if we didn't those who break the law (legislation) would be on the streets causing chaos. Legislation of morality does not stop immorality, it identifies and punishes immorality. Making it safer for the rest of us.

So yes it is possible and yes we do legislate morality.

Exactly, but tourist isn't grasping what legislate means, it means to erect laws to enforce, not make everyone moral. As you asserted, then we can charge all who break those laws.

 

[DJ2]

What does a murderer need? A hug? What does an adulterer need? To be made president?

Did you not read the 2nd sentence of my post, "to act accordingly"? "Hugs", of course not, "made president" of course not. Accordingly means whatever is deemed necessary to punish the offence.

 

[DJ2]

Exactly, but tourist isn't grasping what legislate means, it means to erect laws to enforce, not make everyone moral. As you asserted, then we can charge all who break those laws.

Is preacher4truth correct? Is tourist not grasping the meaning of legislate?

 

[serpentdove]

Did you not read the 2nd sentence of my post, "to act accordingly"? "Hugs", of course not, "made president" of course not. Accordingly means whatever is deemed necessary to punish the offence.

What is necessary?

 

[DJ2]

What is necessary?

Whatever the penalty of the broken law requires.

What do you think is necessary?

 

[serpentdove]

Whatever the penalty of the broken law requires.?

What penalty should the murderer receive? What penalty should the Sodomite receive?

 

[tourist]

Exactly, but tourist isn't grasping what legislate means, it means to erect laws to enforce, not make everyone moral. As you asserted, then we can charge all who break those laws.

I agree with your estimation.