How Russia fumbled the Ukraine Invasion.

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Russia has lost nearly 100,000 troops so far, a number it is expected to cross by Christmas. The Invasion began on Feb 24 of this year. That's 10 months and so 10,000 troops a month. That's more than it lost in 10 years in Afghanistan: "The war began in December 1979, and lasted until February 1989. About 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed". https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War and also more than America lost in its own Afghanistan War: "There were 2,456 United States military deaths in the War in Afghanistan." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan

See the below: "One NATO member is warning allies that Putin may accept the death or injury of as many as 300,000 Russian troops, roughly three times his estimated losses so far." https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/howrussiafumbledtheukraine-invasion

The Kremlin began with 150,000 Invaders. Later on, Putin mobilized 300,000 more. So if he loses 300K, that's 2/3rds or 70% of his fighting force.

Ukraine was a Peaceful Country and had in no way threatened Russia. Russia had also sworn, in its Budapest Memorandum, not to attack or threaten Ukraine, which it blatantly violated. The UK and US made Ukraine give up its Nukes - to Russia!!! - for Budapest Memorandum.

Source: "The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with US Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance,[2] prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.[3][4] ...
According to the three memoranda,[5] Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they agreed to the following:
  1. Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.[6]
  2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory... Until Ukraine gave up the Soviet nuclear weapons stationed on its soil, it had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile,[9][10] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

From the Free Peace Journal Site:

"New Delhi: The New York Times colleagues have published a sweeping account of how Russia mismanaged its invasion of Ukraine, based on battle plans, intercepts and interviews with Russian soldiers and Kremlin confidants.

Here are some major points:

Wounded Russian soldiers said they had little training, food or supplies. Some turned to Wikipedia to learn how to use their weapons.

President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle fed his suspicions and magnified his grievances. The war was planned in such secrecy that his spokesman and chief of staff learned of it only after it began.

One NATO member is warning allies that Putin may accept the death or injury of as many as 300,000 Russian troops, roughly three times his estimated losses so far.

Invading Russian troops used their cellphones to call home, revealing their positions to Ukraine’s military.

“It was a cascade of failures, and at the top is Putin’s own misguidedness, his own isolation and his own conviction that he knew what was best,” Anton Troianovski, the Moscow bureau chief, told The Morning newsletter."
 

Gojira

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In no small part though is the military aid Ukraine's been getting.
 

Nehemiah6

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How Russia fumbled the Ukraine Invasion.
Now we need another thread which says "How Zelensky scammed the West to promote war in Ukraine".

The West has idolized scammer and schemer Zelensky because he is helping America to fight a proxy war against Russia (after it has lost every war since WWII).

Billions of dollars have poured into Ukraine, but what it the net result? Millions of arms and ammunitions have poured into Ukraine but what is the net result? Probably more wealth and materiel has gone to Ukraine than anything which happened in WWII. Yet the matter is not resolved. No one wants it to be resolved.

People need to understand some things which have been deliberately hidden by the media:

1. This Ukraine war was created to deflect attention from what Biden was doing to America -- TOTALLY DESTROYING IT from within.

2. Biden and his administration kept egging on Putin to invade Ukraine instead of offering to sit down with both sides and negotiate a peaceful solution. This was at the time when Russia was simply saber-rattling and something could have been easily negotiated.

3. Then Biden sabotaged the oil and gas industry and began pouring billions into Russia for oil so that they had plenty of cash for their war effort. Then he encouraged Russia to keep the Nordstream II pipeline going until the UK sabotaged it.

4. Then he (and all the Western countries) began pouring billions into Ukraine to keep the war going. The whole idea was to have a long-drawn out war where there was no clear winner, but the West was drained of its wealth and military capability. The end game is the destruction of America.

5. Boris Johnson actually sabotaged a peace initiative because the West did not want this war settled quickly.

6. Then NATO got involved and started offering membership to some European countries to ratchet up the tension and keep the war going.

7. Then Zelensky was made a hero (even TIME "Man of the YEAR") while he daily demanded billions of ADDITIONAL DOLLARS to keep his corrupt regime going. Zelensky is simply another dictator like Putin and Biden, and nobody cares about the Ukrainian people. This is a sham proxy war for America to keep pouring money into a worthless cause and into its military-industrial complex.

Is there a solution? Absolutely. Does the West want this war to come to an end? Absolutely not. They are sending cash, arms, and ammunition to Ukraine daily and have already budgeted more cash in their obscene omnibus bills (which are another scam).
 

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Ukraine was a Peaceful Country and had in no way threatened Russia. Russia had also sworn, in its Budapest Memorandum, not to attack or threaten Ukraine, which it blatantly violated. The UK and US made Ukraine give up its Nukes - to Russia!!! - for Budapest Memorandum.
It's helpful to add a little context on how a nuclear arsenal fits into the picture. So we're
going to back up now three decades to the early 1990s and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Ukraine suddenly found itself independent and the third-largest nuclear power in the world.
Thousands of nuclear arms had been stationed on its soil by Moscow, and they were still there.
In the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to denuclearize completely. In exchange, it
would get a security guarantee from the U.S., the U.K. and Russia, known as the Budapest Memorandum.

source
 

Gojira

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The West has idolized scammer and schemer Zelensky because he is helping America to fight a proxy war against Russia (after it has lost every war since WWII).
We won half the Korean Peninsula. That's millions of lives not living in abject slavery. No, it was not an outright victory, but not an outright loss, either.

We had the same arrangement in Vietnam, but the Dems deliberately sabotaged it by not agreeing to provide the funds needed to keep SV safe.

We won the first Iraq war. We won the second. Iraq is no paradise, but its people aren't being dropped into vats of boiling oil, they aren't being used as chemical weapons guinea pigs, and there is some semblance of a democratic structure there.
 

Gojira

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The end game is the destruction of America.
This, I agree with. They want to usher in a brave new world, in which America is just one average state among many. Progressivism is fascism.