Jesus’ Answer To President Trump’s Immigration Ban

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prove-all

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You are referring to McCarran-Walter Act
the McCarran–Walter Act, [restricted immigration into] the U.S. and is codified under Title 8
of the United States Code (8 U.S.C. ch. 12). The Act governs primarily [immigration to] and
citizenship in the United States.

The Act allowed the government to make sure only [desirable immigrants] let into the U.S.,
the ones that where [deemed harmfull] where not even let in, or deported if found here.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1952


Eventually, the Act established a preference system which determined which ethnic
groups were [desirable immigrants] and placed great importance on labor qualifications.

The Act defined three types of immigrants: immigrants with special skills or relatives of U.S.
citizens who were exempt from quotas and who were to be admitted without restrictions;
average immigrants whose numbers were not supposed to exceed 270,000 per year; and refugees.


-so if you where not on the list above, and deemed hostile to our ways,
or was not in the U.S. interests , no entry was allowed.


The Act [also]allowed the government to deport immigrants or naturalized citizens engaged in sub-
versive activities and also allowed the barring of suspected subversives from entering the country.


The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 requires an alien to apply for a petition for naturalization.
This form may be obtained from any office of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, a division
of the Department of Justice, or from any court authorized to naturalize aliens.


Before applying, an alien must be at least 18 years old and must have been lawfully
admitted to live permanently in the United States.

He must be of good moral character and "attached to the principles of the Constitution".
 

peacenik

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I already pointed them out. If warranted? You are blind.



Where?

Be very specific.


By the way, still waiting for your proof to the previous claim you made a few weeks ago that I have made "bigoted" comments on this forum. When will you supply that data?
 

Magenta

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Where?

Be very specific.

By the way, still waiting for your proof to the previous claim you made a few weeks ago that I have made "bigoted" comments on this forum. When will you supply that data?
I am still waiting for you to prove your many false claims. I have been waiting longer, so you first, any time you are ready, which I know will be never, so you should probably likewise give up your waiting, and pretending I have anything I could prove to you, when you outright reject evidence when it is placed right under your very nose. I know this because you have done it multiple times. You are dishonest.
 

peacenik

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prove-all; said:
where was the outrage when Obama and others did the same thing?
not all bad guys are from Communist Parties only.


Trump had followed the letter of the law in this matter.
the court judge committed a dangerous act of judicial overreach.

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Obama cracked down on our liberties at home, abroad he let everyone walk over us.



Did Obama apply McCarran-Walter and ban Iraqis as alleged by the right?

That myth is readily refuted here:


Did President Obama ‘Ban’ Iraqi Refugees? | Heavy.com


''The Washington Post reported that a former Obama administration official named Jon Finer has “denied that any ban in Iraqi refugee admissions was put in place under Obama.”“While the flow of Iraqi refugees slowed significantly during the Obama administration’s review, refugees continued to be admitted to the United States during that time, and there was not a single month in which no Iraqis arrived here,” Finer wrote in Foreign Policy. “In other words, while there were delays in processing, there was no outright ban.” Another official backed up Finer’s account to the Post.''



also see this:

Sorry, Mr. President: The Obama Administration Did Nothing Similar to Your Immigration Ban | Foreign Policy

 

peacenik

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I am still waiting for you to prove your many false claims. I have been waiting longer, so you first, any time you are ready, which I know will be never, so you should probably likewise give up your waiting, and pretending I have anything I could prove to you, when you outright reject evidence when it is placed right under your very nose. I know this because you have done it multiple times. You are dishonest.



Still waiting.

By the way, anybody who is on her side is welcome to prove that I contradicted myself as she claims. They are also welcome to "prove" that I have made 'bigoted statements' on this forum previously.
 

Magenta

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Still waiting.

By the way, anybody who is on her side is welcome to prove that I contradicted myself as she claims. They are also welcome to "prove" that I have made 'bigoted statements' on this forum previously.
You are still a liar, since you claimed I denied using the word criminal when I did no such thing. I am still waiting for you to apologize for that false accusation, but you refuse to take responsibility for your dishonesty. Don't worry, I am not holding my breath :)
 

peacenik

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Still waiting ....




and laughing away ...


 

peacenik

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Looks like Magenta is going to need a little more time to find her "proof".

Very well, tomorrow is another day.

Will post more reminders then.

Good night all and sleep tight on ye wee soft pillows ....



 
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Perhaps you should act your age and try to live up to the first half of your username. I am pretty sure badgering other members is against the rules. And if it isn't, it should be. Just saying.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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​Hard to come by these days...
won't find it in college, Or the news.. sadly hard to find in the churches..

Sadly by the time they figure it out. It may be too late (if the recent events in our country are any indication)

 

Sirk

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Perhaps you should act your age and try to live up to the first half of your username. I am pretty sure badgering other members is against the rules. And if it isn't, it should be. Just saying.
You mean the cc minister of propaganda? The one that's always "waiting"? The one who's primary news source is salon.com? The one who wants unfettered immigration and helps them not by giving them a place to stay but by "baking them cookies" at his local church? The one who says CNN is "right wing"? Objection! Badgering the witness!
 

prove-all

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Did Obama apply McCarran-Walter and ban Iraqis as alleged by the right?
The point is Trump has followed the law, but the court overreached its authority.

The Act allowed the government to deport immigrants or naturalized citizens engaged in
subversive activities and also allowed the barring of suspected subversives from entering
the country. Previous presidents also used their executive power to temporarily ban
certain groups of immigrants from entering the country.

Did other presidents summit proof of subversive activity?
What about Iran, Do you think Iran has the right to kill all the Jews
because they do not like them ?

Is Obama justified in assassination of US citizens, without due process ?
How do you reconcile that with the Bible's teaching to all Christians to always
LOVE your enemies and do good for them?
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Oh by the way, lost in all these discussions is the fact that Trump promised to be
rid of ISIS in 30 days. Had he done so we would not be having this debate at all:
Had Obama told [the truth] we would not be having this debate at all:
Instead our effort and money was spent in vain, hard earned gains disolved.

Barack Obama declares the 'War on Terror' is over - May 2010
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/7772598/Barack-Obama-declares-the-War-on
-Terror-is-over.html

The truth

Trump signed a presidential memo directing the Pentagon to submit a plan within 30 days
to defeat the Islamic State, an effort to make good on his campaign promise to more
aggressively confront Islamist terrorism than President Barack Obama did.

one quick way to confront Islamist terrorism is bar them from entering your country.
but people do not like that idea allready, they think everyone just loves america.

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President Obama had also been influenced by the teachings of socialist community
organizer Saul Alinsky and Black Liberation Theology preacher Jeremiah Wright.
President Obama’s own bestselling 1995 autobiography Dreams From My Father
shows that he was profoundly influenced by Frank Marshall Davis

“From the time he was 9 years old, he was influenced by Frank Marshall Davis,
who was a Communist,” taught THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE WORLD WASN’T
THE SOVIET MENACE, BUT “ANGLO-AMERICAN IMPERIALIST DOMINATION.”
President Obama extended a helping hand to traditional enemies of America like Iran and Cuba,
because, like Frank Marshall Davis, he doesn’t believe Islamists or Communists pose the greatest
threat to world peace. He believes this threat to be “Anglo-American imperialist domination.”

On the domestic front, President Obama has neutered local police forces, knowingly released
thousands of convicted criminals onto American streets, and granted amnesty to millions of illegal
immigrants flooding across the southern border. All this sounds like a national security nightmare,
but to someone like Frank Marshall Davis, or Bill Ayers, or Saul Alinsky, the police are nothing
but agents of capitalist corporations devoted to oppressing the proletarian masses.

Obama has sapped America’s strength, pervert its morals, sabotaged its education system,
wrecked its social structure, destroyed its spiritual life, weakened its economic power,
shuned our allies and enabled our enemies, and demoralize its armed forces
 

prove-all

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won't find it in college, Or the news..
The Communist Manifesto is the third-most popular assigned book
in universities’ syllabi, according to the Open Syllabus Project.
The Open Syllabus Project – Opening the curricular black box

University teachers list The Communist Manifesto, by Karl Marx and
Friedrich Engels, more frequently in their syllabi than all but two other texts.
Plato’s Republic is the second-highest assigned text; Elements of Style,
by E.B. White and William Strunk Jr, is No. 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_philosophy
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You must understand that the USA is not viewed as the heroes in all of these Middle Eastern
conflicts. Its imperialistic government, like those of Europe, caused the problems in that region
here lies the truth behind your actions, you view U.S. and what it stands for
as imperialistic government imposed on the people, as the enemy.
And not as the republic for which it stands.

as we have discussed enough times on this forum:

People in that region have been the victims of this imperialism.
Troubles that were created in the West. Therefore, do not expect them
to love the USA or any other Western government.
not sure I seen this on christian chat discussion, care to post a cc link?
where you anti american in those decisions also?
The presence of Iranians there is welcome by Iraqis who do not see them as foreigners.
They view them as Shiia allies in the quest to remove imperialistic forces such as the USA
and its few remaining allies there
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi

Obama pledges support to Iraqi leader -April 14, 2015
Al-Abadi told reporters Monday that an increase in U.S. airstrikes, weapons deliveries
and training has helped roll back Islamic State forces, but he needed greater support
from the international coalition to "finish" them. "We want to see more," he said.

Obama pledged $200 million in humanitarian aid to help those displaced
by Islamic State militants

"President Obama and the U.S. administration have expressed full readiness to provide
support for our security forces in our effort to liberate all of Iraq," al-Abadi said.

that ultimately Iraq is in control of its own destiny," Obama said.
Haider al-Abadi told the Huffington Post in June that he would be prepared to
"take any assistance, even from Iran" in the fight against IS militants.

The civil war that raged between the Sunnis and Shiites was largely
the result of Sadr’s Mahdi Army running rampant.

a stable pro-Shiite government to Iraq—something that Iran has striven for throughout
the last decade. the Iraqi chameleon and his Iranian allies will continue to work toward
a strong Shiite-dominated Iraq
 

peacenik

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Perhaps you should act your age and try to live up to the first half of your username. I am pretty sure badgering other members is against the rules. And if it isn't, it should be. Just saying.


Yes I am sure that badgering is against forum rules. But you need to direct your criticism in that regard to those who make false accusations and then fail to back them up. Accusations such as pretending that I made bigoted statements against unnamed groups, or that I contradicted myself and that "proof" of such contradictions were posted even though no one can point to any is another. Still another is the blatantly false accusations that I called for open borders - not one such "proof" has ever been presented to prove that claim. Maybe if you could take off the blinders and direct your criticism towards people like that, this forum would be more peaceable. The Bible teaches that you are to treat everyone the same in James 2:1. In verse 9 of that book it reads, "But you sin if you don’t treat everyone the same. The law judges you because you have broken it." (NIRV).


It is time for you to do the same.