Justified use of force?

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dcontroversal

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Everybody needs to understand there are laws for a reason......without laws, the Western, civilized world would never have happend......Society is dead set on imploding and exploding without laws and unfortunately there was a time (key in on was a time) when criminals actually feared being punished....today many will say that they have it very good in prison...gymnasiums, food, clothing, shelter, movies, government paid educations, congenial visits, sports activities and everything they have on the street they can get in prison such as drugs, phones, alcohol etc........I say a 6X8 cell, two meals a day and the bible.............maybe 1 hour a day exercise.....!
 
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wisebeardman said:
that is what most people do these days, don't matter if a thug has killed 50 people. if a cop kills the thug, then its bad cop.
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indeed it is a bad cop.
If you only kill one man, don't you go to jail?
 
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I think we need to realize that the world of the criminals is very different from the world most of us are living our lives in. Not many of us gets to know their world, and thank you Lord for that. Now, The thugs are displaying a lack of empathy everytime they are committing crimes, they are scaring people, they are killing people and they are out there 24/7/365. The policemen and women are supposed to protect and serve...and their job is tough...now, if we were to investigate all the cases were the outcome is fatal in a cop/citizen clash, how many of those citizens would have at least one incarceration under their belt? I think the number of no prior convictions would be close to zero, in fact. Do law abiding people have anything to fear? I think the answer is no. The thugs, on the other hand, should be living in fear for the consequences of their chosen lifestyle
 
p_rehbein

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GodIsSalvation said:
Don't know if it was him that committed the accused crimes or not. Even all that will come another day.

All there is evidence for to my knowledge at this point in time, or at least being publicized, is even what happened with the police arresting him for walking around with the gun. I feel bad about guy getting run over, but that's what it took to save his own life.
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They knew he had committed the crimes, that's why they were following him to begin with
 
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p_rehbein said:
They knew he had committed the crimes, that's why they were following him to begin with
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From what I have seen they began following him cause he was walking around with a gun. Which is a right enough reason. As far as the charges of other crimes, those come later, but seeing as he had to have got the gun from somewhere it fits the story of the stolen gun. Therefore then it is fair to make investigation of the other claims.
 
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p_rehbein said:
So everyone is just going to ignore all the crimes this person committed and the lives he endangered prior to this incident?

just wondering............
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Yes. That's what we do. Glorify the criminal and crucify the police officer. Didn't you get that memo?


Seriously, since Ferguson, the media and the public want to examine every single detail of a police officer's conduct while completely ignoring the actions of the thug. Michael Brown's hand's weren't up and he didn't say "Don't shoot," but knuckleheads everywhere perpetuate a blatantly false narrative that was even disbelieved by Eric Holder's DOJ.

And and if that comment about "knuckleheads" chafed? Sorry, but if the shoe fits, wear it!
 
InSpiritInTruth

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Viligant_Warrior said:
Yes. That's what we do. Glorify the criminal and crucify the police officer. Didn't you get that memo?

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Nobody here is trying to glorify the criminal, your a liar for even suggesting it. The concern about violence in society is very real, even the amount of violence being displayed by police officers.
 
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kodiak said:
This is also a good read if you want more information on this incident.
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I am going to repeat this. This is a good article to read
Warren said Rapiejko had only seconds to react before he entered the parking lot of a business, where bystanders could have been at risk.
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Standard procedure calls for isolating and containing a gunman, but in this case, because of the rifle's range, the perimeter would have had to extend for hundreds of yards, requiring vast reinforcements and logistics. In the meantime, an active shooter could have taken hostages or posed additional threats to responding officers, experts say.
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There is more to this than many realize....
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
The concern about violence in society is very real, even the amount of violence being displayed by police officers.
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Police officers are not the problem. Thugs are the problem. Your post indicates you don't realize that, as evidenced by the fact you only quoted the sarcastic portion of my post.
 
InSpiritInTruth

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Viligant_Warrior said:
Police officers are not the problem. Thugs are the problem. Your post indicates you don't realize that, as evidenced by the fact you only quoted the sarcastic portion of my post.
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Wickedness and lawlessness is the problem, and guess what? Some police are "thugs". When those who are put into a position of power and authority to make, and even enforce laws become "lawless" and wicked themselves, then you've got some real problems and breakdown in a lawful society.
 
Nautilus

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wwjd_kilden said:
indeed it is a bad cop.
If you only kill one man, don't you go to jail?
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Not if the man you are killing is a criminal and killing him prevents immediate harm to others.
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
indeed it is a bad cop.
If you only kill one man, don't you go to jail?
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Darren Wilson sends his thanks for not being a St. Louis Country resident eligible to serve on a grand jury.

InSpiritInTruth said:
Wickedness and lawlessness is the problem, and guess what? Some police are "thugs".
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True, but not all. In fact, very, very few.

On the other hand, all thugs are thugs. And its thugs who are the problem. The thugs who are police officers are weeded out pretty quickly, believe it or not.

 
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wisebeardman

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wwjd_kilden said:
indeed it is a bad cop.
If you only kill one man, don't you go to jail?
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uh, it appears you miss the whole point....

And truth of it is. im sick and tired of thugs. I would rather cops just shoot anyone who runs from them. and we start hanging people who murder,rape,steal,ect.
 
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GOD says "vengeance is MINE(yahweh's)". (((shhhh.... he also tells what he does to anyone who seeks their own))) (he's perfectly just, right, and unchangeable; his judgment is certain)
 
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Jeff_56 said:
GOD says "vengeance is MINE(yahweh's)". (((shhhh.... he also tells what he does to anyone who seeks their own))) (he's perfectly just, right, and unchangeable; his judgment is certain)
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It wasn't about vengeance. It was about public safety -- disarming/bringing down an armed suspect -- and justice. The guy had already committed multiple felonies when the officer took action to stop the danger

Surely you're not suggesting we leave the criminals solely to God to judge and punish, are you?
 
InSpiritInTruth

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wisebeardman said:
And truth of it is. im sick and tired of thugs. I would rather cops just shoot anyone who runs from them. and we start hanging people who murder,rape,steal,ect.
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Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
 
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