Massacre Nairobi Kenya Mall Attack . Kenya: 'If You Were Muslim They Let You Go'

[AgeofKnowledge]

90% of Top Newspaper Headlines Censor Islam in Nairobi, Pakistan Attacks

90% of Top Newspaper Headlines Censor Islam in Nairobi, Pakistan Attacks | NewsBusters

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Muslim Brotherhood-supporting DHS adviser blames Copts for "promoting Islamophobia"

Muslim Brotherhood-supporting DHS adviser blames Copts for "promoting Islamophobia" - Jihad Watch

 

[Drett]

I've already provided everything relevant to that discussion in my past posts and don't necessarily repeat myself every time someone new comes along given the adequate search capabilities systemic to this forum. I'm busy right now. Later. EOM.

ok when you can. I cannot answer your allegations until you put something forward. So for now you are linking in dictators of Muslims land which are bad which we already know and Muslims that have reached breaking point and are acting badly which I have already explained.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Interesting interview with Tommy of the EDL: LiveLeak.com - Tommy Robinson EDL interview: Blog Radio 12/09/2013

 

[Drett]

Interesting interview with Tommy of the EDL: LiveLeak.com - Tommy Robinson EDL interview: Blog Radio 12/09/2013

So now you value the opinion of a far right criminal like Tommy ? Lets have a look at his resume.

On 24 August 2010, Robinson was involved in a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County in Luton, on the evening the two clubs played at Kenilworth Road. Lennon reportedly led the group of Luton fans, and played an integral part in starting the 100-man brawl, during which he chanted "EDL till I die".

BBC News - EDL founder Stephen Lennon guilty over football brawl

So he is a football hooligan. England certainly needs more of those.

Robinson was arrested after an EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets on 3 September 2011 for breach of bail conditions, as he had been banned from attending the demonstration. After his arrest, Robinson began a hunger strike in custody in Bedford Prison, saying he was a "political prisoner of the state" and refused to eat what he believed was halal meat. The hungerstrike lasted less than 24 hours. lol

What a prima donna !

On 8 November 2011, Robinson held a protest against the ban on wearing a poppy for the England team on the rooftop of the FIFA building in Zurich. He was fined £3000 and jailed for three days.

On 28 November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation in relation to a mortgage application.

So he is not honest.

On 7 January 2013 Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport—"possession of a false identity document with improper intention"—to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced to 10 months imprisonment. He was sentenced under the name of Stephen Lennon, but the judge added that he suspected it was not his true name, in the sense that it was not the name on his own passport (not the borrowed one), Paul Harris. Robinson was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013.

Wonderful person.

On 29 June 2013 Robinson was arrested for allegedly obstructing police after attempting to do a charity walk dedicated to the Death of Lee Rigby.

So you think this criminal is worthy to have his opinion heard ? You could not use his witness testimony in court.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

My comment had nothing to do with his person but rather the content of the interview.

I don't know much about him nor was aware of any of the information you posted except for that charity walk arrest. You might want to watch the video on that. He was doing a charity walk and some UAF guys ran over and attacked him without provocation and rather than fight back he appealed to the police who arrested him and let the attackers go. When it got to court, it was thrown out of court and the ones who arrested him soundly criticized by the magistrate.

Tommy did make some important and highly relevant points that I agreed with.

You're in Britain right? Maybe if people like you hadn't voted to create the problem to begin with, then people like Tommy wouldn't get the time of day. But you voted in the politicians who imported large numbers of hard hearted hard core foreign Muslims that have taken over entire sections and implemented Sharia law zones attacking any British citizen that looks out of place to them that dares enter the areas they occupy.

I'd rather listen to Tommy who wants a Christian solution to the problem then you who imported a serious radical Muslim problem right into the heart of your Western nation. It appears you're the problem not Tommy. You're throwing stones at Tommy but you created the problem to begin with.

 

[Drett]

My comment had nothing to do with his person but rather the content of the interview.

I don't know much about him nor was aware of any of the information you posted except for that charity walk arrest. You might want to watch the video on that. He was doing a charity walk and some UAF guys ran over and attacked him without provocation and rather than fight back he appealed to the police who arrested him and let the attackers go. When it got to court, it was thrown out of court and the ones who arrested him soundly criticized by the magistrate.

Tommy did make some important and highly relevant points that I agreed with.

You're in Britain right? Maybe if people like you hadn't voted to create the problem to begin with, then people like Tommy wouldn't get the time of day. But you voted in the politicians who imported large numbers of hard hearted hard core foreign Muslims that have taken over entire sections and implemented Sharia law zones attacking any British citizen that looks out of place to them that dares enter the areas they occupy.

I'd rather listen to Tommy who wants a Christian solution to the problem then you who imported a serious radical Muslim problem right into the heart of your Western nation. It appears you're the problem not Tommy. You're throwing stones at Tommy but you created the problem to begin with.

Tommy is a criminal that commits fraud. He has been proven to be dishonest. His opinion is not worth listening to.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

You are engaging in argumentum ad hominem which is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. It's an informal fallacy you're engaging in that in argumentation theory is a type that falls under irrelevance.

AdHominem

But since you chose to engage in it, the fact that people listen to what Tommy has to say instead of what you (e.g. the type of voter that created the problem in the first place) has to say speaks volumes about how reviled your own opinion has become.

Tommy is a criminal that commits fraud. He has been proven to be dishonest. His opinion is not worth listening to.

 

[Drett]

You are engaging in argumentum ad hominem which is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument. It's an informal fallacy you're engaging in that in argumentation theory is a type that falls under irrelevance.

AdHominem

But since you chose to engage in it, the fact that people listen to what Tommy has to say instead of what you (e.g. the type of voter that created the problem in the first place) has to say speaks volumes about how reviled your own opinion has become.

I thought you might reply with that. You seem to be leading me towards that.

If you linked in an opinion of Hitler on Jews which you said was worth listening to. Would it be invalid for me to reject his opinion ?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

So now you're invoking Reductio ad Hitlerum too. What a nut. Why you have more in common with Adolph Hitler than Tommy does.

Muslim leaders in the Middle East such as Husseini forged relations with the Third Reich and enforced the spread of Nazi customs and propaganda throughout the areas under their control. In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood followed suit and Hitler's influence soon spread throughout the region. In 1937, the Nazi government gave al-Husseini and the Muslim Brotherhood financial and military assistance.

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

The hard hearted Muslims you voted to import into your country whom are now against everything good that it once stood for were aligned with Hitler and the Third Reich.

Muslim Brotherhood & Adolf Hitler

Tommy is against both and for Western civilization and Christianity. A much better metaphor would be to compare you with those in Argentina that imported in the Nazis after WWII and supported them.

Secret files reveal 9,000 Nazi war criminals fled to South America after WWII | Mail Online

All I see is a guy named Drett who lives in a glass house he built that likes to throw stones at other people.

people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones - Wiktionary

I thought you might reply with that. You seem to be leading me towards that.

If you linked in an opinion of Hitler on Jews which you said was worth listening to. Would it be invalid for me to reject his opinion ?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

[h=1]Kenyan mall massacre: Gunmen named after chilling new CCTV footage emerges[/h][h=3]FOUR gunman involved in a brutal massacre at a Kenyan mall have been named after new CCTV footage has emerged.[/h]Kenyan mall massacre: Gunmen named after chilling new CCTV footage emerges | World | News | Daily Express

[video=youtube_share;ghllBPID_7U]http://youtu.be/ghllBPID_7U[/video]

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Kenyan mall massacre: Gunmen named after chilling new CCTV footage emerges

Lol. So that's your CCTV evidence of the terrorist attacks? Lol.

I'm starting to think that people who believe this stuff really deserve the security for freedom deals their governments offer them. I can't believe the world is this stupid. My guess - about 15% know this stuff is all made up. Probably about 80% swallow it hook, line and sinker. The remaining 5% are in on the scam. Anyone have more accurate stats?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Try to be reasonable some of the time. Acting like an imbecile all of the time makes people not want to talk to you anymore.

Obviously, that is a news story relating to this discussion and that's why it's posted here. It is no way an aggregate of the content released so far but just a news story focusing on some of the Muslim attackers identified so far. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now go take your meds.

Lol. So that's your CCTV evidence of the terrorist attacks? Lol.

I'm starting to think that people who believe this stuff really deserve the security for freedom deals their governments offer them. I can't believe the world is this stupid. My guess - about 15% know this stuff is all made up. Probably about 80% swallow it hook, line and sinker. The remaining 5% are in on the scam. Anyone have more accurate stats?

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Obviously, that is a news story relating to this discussion and that's why it's posted here.

Sorry if I offended you. That wasn't my intention.

I just find it difficult to understand why people believe this stuff. Like, there was no gunfire, no people fleeing, no nothing. Even the "expert" admited - they were just ambling about casually. So that's what terrorists do while they're terrorising a shopping centre full of people, and the special forces are invading to kill them. Amble about casually?!? Is that what you would do if you were a terrorist?

Let me translate his words for you: "Next time, we better pay a few shillings more for some half-decent actors. Anyone not taking all their meds can tell this is *so* fake".

Why is your requirement for evidence to believe "The News" so low, and yet your requirement for evidence to believe those telling you it's fake, so high?

 

[Drett]

What a nice person you are turning to be when you are a bit pressed hey aok. Who would have thought it from someone with so many computer certifications such as yourself. Standing up for a person like Tommy, a leader of a fascist right wing party, who spends more time in prison than out. Referring to me as Hitler and referring to a fellow christian as an imbecile.

Remember the proof I requested such a long time ago ? Where is it ? All you have are these stories of Muslims acting badly. Oh well.

 

[zone]

My comment had nothing to do with his person but rather the content of the interview.

I don't know much about him nor was aware of any of the information you posted except for that charity walk arrest. You might want to watch the video on that. He was doing a charity walk and some UAF guys ran over and attacked him without provocation and rather than fight back he appealed to the police who arrested him and let the attackers go. When it got to court, it was thrown out of court and the ones who arrested him soundly criticized by the magistrate.

Tommy did make some important and highly relevant points that I agreed with.

You're in Britain right? Maybe if people like you hadn't voted to create the problem to begin with, then people like Tommy wouldn't get the time of day. But you voted in the politicians who imported large numbers of hard hearted hard core foreign Muslims that have taken over entire sections and implemented Sharia law zones attacking any British citizen that looks out of place to them that dares enter the areas they occupy.

I'd rather listen to Tommy who wants a Christian solution to the problem then you who imported a serious radical Muslim problem right into the heart of your Western nation. It appears you're the problem not Tommy. You're throwing stones at Tommy but you created the problem to begin with.

oh YUCK. nice post, man.

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you still think THE PEOPLE VOTE TPTB IN? i'd lol but it's not even funny.

whatever...AoK you have NO CLUE what's going on.
massive unrestrained immigration without integration is a WAR TACTIC.

 

[zone]

Try to be reasonable some of the time. Acting like an imbecile all of the time makes people not want to talk to you anymore.

Obviously, that is a news story relating to this discussion and that's why it's posted here. It is no way an aggregate of the content released so far but just a news story focusing on some of the Muslim attackers identified so far. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now go take your meds.

double yuck, AoK.
still don't believe in the false flag tactic huh?

i guess i'll be putting you on ignore.
you're regressing.

 

[zone]

General William Odom, former director of the National Security Agency, said "By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism, yet in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation" (the audio is here).

False Flag
Summary of False Flag Operations and False Flag Terrorism

False Flag < click

YAWN

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Tommy is a self-avowed Christian who publicly repented for his past misdeeds. Instead of being a hypocrite, why don't you extend him the same grace you demand from everyone else.

And no I don't remember you requesting special proofs long ago about whatever you're rambling on about and have better things to do today than to listen to you degrade a fellow Christian of yours.

All that name calling. All that ad hominem. As always Drett, look in the mirror. There is always where your biggest problem lies.

What a nice person you are turning to be when you are a bit pressed hey aok. Who would have thought it from someone with so many computer certifications such as yourself. Standing up for a person like Tommy, a leader of a fascist right wing party, who spends more time in prison than out. Referring to me as Hitler and referring to a fellow christian as an imbecile.

Remember the proof I requested such a long time ago ? Where is it ? All you have are these stories of Muslims acting badly. Oh well.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Thank you. I much prefer that to you riding me like I'm your horse lolol.

i guess i'll be putting you on ignore.