Michigan Opens Door to Muslim Immigration

[J-Kay-2]

I don't mind some intelligent argument but, hers is propaganda straight outa the secular humanist handbook, plus she is misrepresenting herself. She is either not a 19 year old girl but instead is a 60 something hipster thug... or she is a 19 year old college student, at the behest of a mentor, honing her secular humanist debate skills. In either case, she has zero authenticity and a loose moral compass at best.

I have reported her twice. I feel as you ... she is not a 19 yr. old girl. She reminds
me of when I was on another Christian site and I was owner of a Group. A guy came
on and asked if he could join. He said he was 18 yr. old homosexual soldier, and he
wanted to learn about the Bible. I, being a grandmother, said, sure.. He said, If
it is a problem, or if I do anything that causes conflict I will gladly leave.

Well, guess what? It wasn't long when I realized this was not an 18 yr. old novice.
He knew the Word of God and totally took over. He was there to push his agenda.
It took 4 years before they could get him off there. He denied he told me he was
18 yr old. Man... the enemy is subtle and a liar.

I feel she was off topic and pushing her atheistic agenda. As I said I reported her
twice. But it remains to be seen what happens. I bring news over here, not to
cause trouble, but to enlighten. God knows my heart... I have passed up many
opportunities to bring more over here for news.... but I try to use wisdom and not
overwhelm with a certain topic... Praying for peace and quiet.

 

[Sirk]

I'm just grateful for AOK and his ability to reduce the propaganda to a smoldering ash heap.

 

[J-Kay-2]

I'm just grateful for AOK and his ability to reduce the propaganda to a smoldering ash heap.

Sometimes the topic can be so long it does not get read. Hope the propaganda has been turned into ashes.
I just came from one of my other Threads and discovered she was trying to spread it there.
Did you know this is a Jezebel spirit doing what it does best ? Jezebel spirit takes control over everything and
causes dissension. Sad one has to be yielded to such an ugly spirit. J~K~2

 

[Sirk]

Sometimes the topic can be so long it does not get read. Hope the propaganda has been turned into ashes.
I just came from one of my other Threads and discovered she was trying to spread it there.
Did you know this is a Jezebel spirit doing what it does best ? Jezebel spirit takes control over everything and
causes dissension. Sad one has to be yielded to such an ugly spirit. J~K~2

I read it all. Her posts were laborious and condescending and were right in line with the tactics atheists employ to confound and confuse the topic....they love muddy waters cuz they at least on some level understand that being forthright will put them on the losing side of the argument every time. AOK's posts were very easily understood as well as scholarly.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

CC admin falls on the tolerant side with respect to their forum in somewhat of a contrast to the chat imo. Most Christian forums ban very quickly. A simple statement like, "I believe Christians don't tell the truth" would be all it takes to get banned from most Christian forums. That's too strict. I think CC's tolerance does make them unique from most other forums.

Ok, that said, sure it's frustrating when you end up going round in circles with unregenerate non-Christians but I suppose at the end of the day if there's no overt intent to harass, libel, violate the forum's rules, etc... then it is what it is.

As the admin at CC say, everyone's here voluntarily. No one is making us be here... lol. And, they do have an ignore feature.

Yes it's frustrating dealing with people who have been tragically failed by a morally and scholastically declining civilization with a public school system that's become a dumbed down atheistic system of regressive immoral indoctrination and guardians that failed to model and impart God's normative morality to their progeny and couldn't pass a 1955 high school civics quiz if their lives depended on it.

And they'll argue with you until the cows come home using their feelings and a lot of revisionist modern/post-modern misinformation as they lead lives of immoral dissipation which only results in them becoming more lost and deceived. But, of course, they'll tell you that they're experts and I'm not... just ask them lolol.

Eventually, there does come a point where it's better to simply give them a time out by sending them on their way to think about what they've been told rather than let them just continue endlessly in circles when it gets to that point. I agree with you to that extent.

This has to be the most unbelievable act of Christian Chat I have seen
since I joined. This has been reported and they are letting her take
up too much room trying to prove her intelligence and push her agenda.
It has to be cut off some place. Has anyone else tried to report her ?

 

[J-Kay-2]

So I am supposed to ignore my own Thread ? I feel having started it I
had the right to report her. It is off topic... Maybe you can start a Thread
of your own and the two of you can finish your topic ? That is what
dcontroversial did.... he did a spin off from one of my Threads.... I was
relieved when he did that. Just a thought. Maybe you can help her find
Jesus as her Savior. I realize stranger things have happened for an
unbeliever to realize their need for repentance and have a beautiful
relationship with Jesus. God bless...

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Do what you do think's best, can't say I disagree. Love your new picture btw. It's darling. Peace. .

So I am supposed to ignore my own Thread ? I feel having started it I
had the right to report her. It is off topic... Maybe you can start a Thread
of your own and the two of you can finish your topic ? That is what
dcontroversial did.... he did a spin off from one of my Threads.... I was
relieved when he did that. Just a thought. Maybe you can help her find
Jesus as her Savior. I realize stranger things have happened for an
unbeliever to realize their need for repentance and have a beautiful
relationship with Jesus. God bless...

 

[Oncefallen]

So I am supposed to ignore my own Thread ? I feel having started it I
had the right to report her.

No you don't have to ignore the thread, but sometimes it's not a bad idea to ignore individual posts/users. Even as an Admin here there are plenty of users that I choose to not engage with in the forums because I know our views are such polar opposites that it is pointless to debate.

Yes, you have the right to report the user and we do encourage users to use the report function because it is an impossibility for us to read every post in every thread in every forum, but of course your report does not obligate the site to take action. As AoK already stated we do tend to keep relatively loose reigns on the forums and typically only take action on extreme circumstances.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I've come to really respect the mods at CC over time so #6 "Do not dispute the chat room moderators" is easy for me today. I'm still working on improving my tone. When you live in pain from medical issues and have been through as much suffering as I have over the course of life, sometimes the tone just isn't up to the par that Jesus Christ desires it to be. We all have room to improve... even though we're regenerate Christians endowed with a new nature that wants to do right... wants to be godly.

I think with respect to this discussion Sirk and J-Kay-2, we can appeal to #2 if it becomes desirable which states: "No conduct that is offensive or counterproductive to fellowship: We like to welcome all to Christian Chat, but if anyone is not here for fellowship (or for wanting to know about Christianity), but simply for disrupting fellowship, offending people, whatever, then that person is not welcome."

That's where we get closure when it gets to that point where a non-Christian has become overly disruptive and offensive by attacking everything Christian to the nth degree and then looping like a broken record after being corrected repeatedly. But, of course, the mods will make the final decision on all matters pertaining to the forum.

Source: http://christianchat.com/rules.php

P.S. I do like that us regulars can report and not be penalized for it. I love that. It gives us Christians an opportunity to bounce things off mods, so to speak, and see what you decide. It's a good thing. It's a benefit. Peace.

No you don't have to ignore the thread, but sometimes it's not a bad idea to ignore individual posts/users. Even as an Admin here there are plenty of users that I choose to not engage with in the forums because I know our views are such polar opposites that it is pointless to debate.

Yes, you have the right to report the user and we do encourage users to use the report function because it is an impossibility for us to read every post in every thread in every forum, but of course your report does not obligate the site to take action. As AoK already stated we do tend to keep relatively loose reigns on the forums and typically only take action on extreme circumstances.

 

[Sirk]

The wolf in sheeps clothing is pretty easy to spot IMO. A person who is truly seeking generally has a meek spirit that continues on throughout the discourse. I've seen many a zealot try that approach, but their true nature ALWAYS comes to light over time....as it has with "lizathrose". I noticed "she" changed her profile picture.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

"Yesterday, the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history began. Detroit filed for bankruptcy over a year ago, claiming it had no way to pay off the estimated $18 billion in debt. Last month, some of Detroit’s creditors complained about the settlement agreement.

Recently, retirees in Detroit had to vote to approve a cut to their pensions in order to save a buck for the municipality. Also, the city no longer provides health insurance to retired city workers.

For decades now we have seen the true effects disastrous “free trade” agreements such as NAFTA and KORUS have had on our economy. The U.S. has seen a great many jobs lost and entire industries have been decimated. This cannot be true any more than for Detroit, Michigan’s motor-city.

Detroit was the fourth largest city in the country and the wealthiest city in North America, but is now nothing more than the poster-child for America’s deteriorating economy. Its streets are lined with vacant houses and rows upon rows of dilapidated structures: old apartments and long-abandoned factories and warehouses. In fact, about a third of Detroit has been abandoned, and the population that was once two million has plummeted to a mere 714,000. Whole neighborhoods have been abandoned. Poverty in the city has reached such a level that water is being turned off to thousands of residents who cannot pay their bills.

In 1994 Michigan had 288,700 people working in auto manufacturing. Now, according to the most recent data available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, approximately 116,000 people have auto jobs in Michigan. That is a loss of over 170,000 jobs in only 18 years. Even since 2004, automotive manufacturing jobs in the U.S. have dropped from 1.1 million to around 700,000 jobs.

All that NAFTA has done is benefit the 1% at the expense of everyone else. Companies will invest where they believe they can make the most profit, and even though American manufacturing is at its highest efficiency ever, there is no way for it to compare to the profits made south of the border where the cost per hour is often less than $4. This removes middle class jobs from hard working Americans and drives down our wages while increasing the influx of cheap goods from Mexico.

What does this mean? Record profits for CEOs and high unemployment and falling wages for the Average American.

In the year before NAFTA was signed, we maintained a small trade surplus with Mexico. By 2012 we had an approximately $62 billion deficit, and over one million jobs have been lost. By getting rid of NAFTA and putting in place agreements that are more favorable to our nation, the U.S. can increase employment, strengthen the middle class, increase workers’ wages, and strengthen the U.S. economy. Detroit may be the largest, but if our trade deficits continue, and the current administration continues to push for devastating “free trade” agreements, it will not be the last city to declare bankruptcy."

Detroit’s Bankruptcy Trial Starts While the City Crumbles | Economy In Crisis

^ Importing people who adhere to a stone-age violent religious cult into this boiling cauldron is a mark that some in government are downright insane.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

http://wp.me/p1kFP6-5UB

Michigan Governor opens door to muslim immigration

Be sure to read the story about the former muslim turned Pastor.
See if this what you can expect.

Figures. Dearborn Michigan is often referred to as little Baghdad because it has almost in majority a Muslim population. And they are not always infidel friendly.

This Governor should take a page from the UK. London in particular. Besides taking a minute to watch the news and see what happens to peoples freedom and liberty when they're residing in Muslim countries. That's right, they have no freedom or liberty. Especially not the women.

Nothing promotes a religion of peace quite like decapitated infidels.

Dear Governor, you're a fool. (Or, a Muslim)

 

[Esanta]

Figures. Dearborn Michigan is often referred to as little Baghdad because it has almost in majority a Muslim population. And they are not always infidel friendly.

This Governor should take a page from the UK. London in particular. Besides taking a minute to watch the news and see what happens to peoples freedom and liberty when they're residing in Muslim countries. That's right, they have no freedom or liberty. Especially not the women.

Nothing promotes a religion of peace quite like decapitated infidels.

Dear Governor, you're a fool. (Or, a Muslim)

Decapitated 'infidels' nicely coincide with villages full of bombed 'terrorists' that happen to be children and women. Get down off that high horse.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

Decapitated infidels nicely coincide with instances of dead Muslim civilians. Get off your high horse.

I shall pray for the evil that applauds decapitated innocents as deserving of their deaths. Please, climb out of Hell while there's still time. Muhammad was a pedophile, a murderer, and an illiterate. If God was going to speak his final testament to the world he would have chosen a better man than a depraved pervert murderer like that.

 

[Esanta]

I shall pray for the evil that applauds decapitated innocents as deserving of their deaths. Please, clime out of Hell while there's still time.

I don't applaud violence at all. I'm just not ignorant enough to accept that labelling something with bellicose terminology justifies one killing of innocents over another.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

I don't applaud violence at all. I'm just not ignorant enough to accept that labelling something with bellicose terminology justifies one killing of innocents over another.

Yes, you're applauding violence while initiating that defense of terrorism using bellicose terminology to justify the savage decapitation of American reporters.

If you wished to recognize terrorist Muslims for what they are you'd realize innocent civilians that are killed in air strikes, etc... are put at risk by terrorist Muslims. Who use them as human shields, because they believe those innocents will die as martyrs and therefore enter paradise for having been killed as a martyr.

The savage disregard for life terrorist Muslims demonstrate doesn't stop with families in villages they occupy. They terrorize their own people so as to gain a munitions supply house in a family home. Putting at risk every person there because those terrorist Muslims know if their enemy strikes they'll take out that munitions supply, while the collateral damage the terrorist Muslims insured would occur in the deaths of the families whom they stockpiled those munitions around would die too. And then the terrorist Muslims could point and say; SEE? THOSE EVIL INFIDEL WESTERNERS KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!

When in truth those terrorist Muslims killed their own people, those innocent people, by setting them up as human shields. Why? Because they're cowards. They hide behind babies and women and then argue their enemy is the savage.

Don't come to a Christians forum and argue terrorist Muslims are justified in decapitating journalists because.....terrorist Muslims arrange to have their own people killed in armed conflicts with the enemy they incite. You demonstrate yourself not only a terrorist sympathizer but one who is deeply in need of prayer and redemption. As one who lives in the west. And has never smelled the air where terrorist Muslims bleed their own people in the name of Kalifate and the religion of pieces.


I am done here. I do not entertain proponents of terrorist Islam. Ideally they should be banned. Not tolerated in a community dedicated to Christ.

 

[Esanta]

Yes, you're applauding violence while initiating that defense of terrorism using bellicose terminology to justify the savage decapitation of American reporters.

If you wished to recognize terrorist Muslims for what they are you'd realize innocent civilians that are killed in air strikes, etc... are put at risk by terrorist Muslims. Who use them as human shields, because they believe those innocents will die as martyrs and therefore enter paradise for having been killed as a martyr.

The savage disregard for life terrorist Muslims demonstrate doesn't stop with families in villages they occupy. They terrorize their own people so as to gain a munitions supply house in a family home. Putting at risk every person there because those terrorist Muslims know if their enemy strikes they'll take out that munitions supply, while the collateral damage the terrorist Muslims insured would occur in the deaths of the families whom they stockpiled those munitions around would die too. And then the terrorist Muslims could point and say; SEE? THOSE EVIL INFIDEL WESTERNERS KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!

When in truth those terrorist Muslims killed their own people, those innocent people, by setting them up as human shields. Why? Because they're cowards. They hide behind babies and women and then argue their enemy is the savage.

Don't come to a Christians forum and argue terrorist Muslims are justified in decapitating journalists because.....terrorist Muslims arrange to have their own people killed in armed conflicts with the enemy they incite. You demonstrate yourself not only a terrorist sympathizer but one who is deeply in need of prayer and redemption. As one who lives in the west. And has never smelled the air where terrorist Muslims bleed their own people in the name of Kalifate and the religion of pieces.


I am done here. I do not entertain proponents of terrorist Islam. Ideally they should be banned. Not tolerated in a community dedicated to Christ.

I've friends in the British Army, people who know just how indiscriminately bombs can drop when the orders come under the threat of ''terrorism''; that dogmatic word the powers and principalities of the West infuse so vigorously in our media, our schools and our military. It is a buzzword that justifies the ever increasing ferocity with which the Western countries kill civilians and you've bought into it hook line and sinker, like a good little patriot.

I don't condone terrorism, nor justify decapitating innocent people, but I also am not so blind as to assume the litigious view that the West is blameless and the East is not.

 

[peara]

well said.Opening a little door can be destructive just like a little yeast does.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Sneaky mosque thief steals donations while everyone's bowing toward Mecca:

[video=youtube_share;FS971dR68pI]http://youtu.be/FS971dR68pI[/video]

He obviously wasn't thinking about the status of his hand being severed from his arm while doing this.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

There is no Allah. Allah doesn't exist. God exists but Allah doesn't. Unfortunately, a large body of people are deceived and wrongly believe that Allah exists and the "liberals" are allowing their deception to negatively affect Western societies: 'One Nation Under Allah': The Islamization of American Public Schools