Minnesota Shooting (Lets Start Over)

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peacenik

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Since you changed the topic to include Florida, just remember Katharine Harris and her evil actions.

The result: Bush as president twice, massive war and instability in the Middle East, the Great Recession. Worse president in history. No surprise that Republicans like you continue to defend him.
 
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Since you changed the topic to include Florida, just remember Katharine Harris and her evil actions.

The result: Bush as president twice, massive war and instability in the Middle East, the Great Recession. Worse president in history. No surprise that Republicans like you continue to defend him.
War in the Middle East should be expected, especially if you read your Bible and understand prophecy. Israel cannot avoid being targeted and will have to wait a little while longer before they are delivered from those who would destroy them.

I'm sure you blame President Bush for the collapse of Libya and not blame President Obama and Secretary Clinton. What about Russian aggression? What about the red line in Syria that was conveniently ignored and led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and also led to the refugee crisis and growth of ISIS? Could you even find Yemen on a map? Remember them, our President called them a shining success as allies in the fight against terrorism. That was about a month before they collapsed. How is Obama doing in Afghanistan? Terrible. In Iraq? terrible. In the United States? terrible. How about looking back at President Clinton. How well did he respond to intelligence about Bin Laden being behind the attacks on the USS Cole and the attack on the embassy attack in Africa? Oh, that's right, he was busy having sex with an intern and failed us. He sat and watched 800,000 murders in Rwanda that he was told could have been prevented with as little as 2000 soldiers. He claims it was his biggest mistake. He ignored the U.N. and sent our military into Bosnia. That should have upset you. When democrats are in charge of the military, it is amateur hour, and our enemies flourish.

I still love hearing liberals whine about Florida. You forgot to mention how the Supreme Court handed the election to President Bush and how it led to years of depression for Al Gore. Hilarious.
 

peacenik

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Rwanda?

Clinton was president of the USA, not Rwanda.

When he traveled there he walked the streets and was greeted by tens of thousands of people who praised him.



Your hero Bush said "mission accomplished". But has he ever walked the streets of Baghdad and shook hands with strangers the way Clinton did?



As for Bosnia, yes I objected to what Clinton did. However, his mission was part of NATO's action and was not unilateral.

Lastly as we have discussed and documented on this forum before, ISIS was created under Bush, not anyone else. Blame him.
 

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I am so sick of hearing about this. Go ahead, all you ex-cops, and current LEO's, and whoever else that disagree's with me that we need major changes with the police, and has been been telling me I am this or that.
Tell me I am rushing to judgement, I need to wait to hear the facts.
The officer that shot this unarmed black man, on the ground, with his hands up in the air, explaining the situation, heard all the facts and still shot this guy.
Pathetic that any of you are okay with this.
Just continue to defend their irresponsible action's, their inhumanity, their insensitivity to others. Some of them are just outright animals. And I am not backing off that statement. That is what they are. Just reprehensible depraved human beings.
Disgusting.

[video=youtube;U6jzV336DTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6jzV336DTs[/video]
 

JosephsDreams

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[video=youtube;q7WBMPDFL38]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WBMPDFL38[/video]
 
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I am so sick of hearing about this. Go ahead, all you ex-cops, and current LEO's, and whoever else that disagree's with me that we need major changes with the police, and has been been telling me I am this or that.
Tell me I am rushing to judgement, I need to wait to hear the facts.
The officer that shot this unarmed black man, on the ground, with his hands up in the air, explaining the situation, heard all the facts and still shot this guy.
Pathetic that any of you are okay with this.
Just continue to defend their irresponsible action's, their inhumanity, their insensitivity to others. Some of them are just outright animals. And I am not backing off that statement. That is what they are. Just reprehensible depraved human beings.
Disgusting.

[video=youtube;U6jzV336DTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6jzV336DTs[/video]
Calm down guy. You are taking these shootings personal and you are acting like a crazy person. I agree with what I saw on the video that he shouldn't have been shot. That officer should be charged and fired. You attack us who defend law enforcement for no reason. Stop with your attitude and come back to reality.
 
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[video=youtube;q7WBMPDFL38]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WBMPDFL38[/video]
I don't see you posting anything about being sick of the killings in Chicago daily? Why is that? Because deep down inside you hate cops and it shows with your posts.
 

JosephsDreams

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And I am sure you guys are all okay with this one too.
And don't start with the he had a record lame excuse. So what?? In this particular incident he did nothing that warranted him being killed.
How many cops have records, it is just that they are not public. Records of wife beating, hit and runs, cheating, and so on. And yes, many do these things. So don't get all sanctimonious like they are so much better then the average citizen. They are on the wrong side of the ledger too, if it weren't for Jesus they would be condemned.
In fact, we Christians are of the mind that people are sinful in our core, yet the first thing some of you want to do is assume that because someone is a police officer, he has not hate in him for blacks, has no sinful emotions.
The height of hypocrisy some of you. In some cases, yes, they are guilty until proven innocent. Just the same way you all want to do when you say that so and so had a record, so he deserved to be killed.
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JosephsDreams

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Calm down guy. You are taking these shootings personal and you are acting like a crazy person. I agree with what I saw on the video that he shouldn't have been shot. That officer should be charged and fired. You attack us who defend law enforcement for no reason. Stop with your attitude and come back to reality.
I am in reality. The reality is people are needlessly being injured and killed by other people who have a overwhelming advantage of numbers and force over them.
Ever hear of the fair fight credo?
 

JosephsDreams

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BTW, this whole discussion would die down if police would stop injuring and killing people for little or not reason. I was not looking to open this back up. But is right there in my face...
 
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BTW, this whole discussion would die down if police would stop injuring and killing people for little or not reason. I was not looking to open this back up. But is right there in my face...
And I wish blacks would stop killing other blacks in Chicago. Why aren't you pushing that to stop? You have an agenda against Law Enforcement, even though you say you have a famous relative or friend from NY who was a cop. There is bad anywhere you look. Just because someone becomes a cop doesn't mean they should be a cop. It is this way in any profession. So how about this, we just take away guns from all the cops and citizens and then we will all be vulnerable to criminals who HAVE GUNS. I bet you are a huge supporter for taking away our second amendment rights as well.
 

JosephsDreams

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I am praying for a lot of things. People killing other people is one of them. But your diverting the subject. When you talk of blacks killing blacks, or people of any race killing other people, same race or not, your speaking about our sin nature.
When I am discussing police senselessly killing citizens, yes, our sin nature is involved, but obviously, as you know, the focus is on people (LEO) who are authorized by the state and organized as a para military unit with vast amounts of funding killing solitary citizens, unarmed, untrained and posing no threat.
You know they are to very different situations, so why even compare them? Lets stay focused.
 

JosephsDreams

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He is a relative. A 2nd cousin. Around my dads age. And I have no agenda against LEO. You think I do, but I don't. My agenda is to see if somehow we limit this. I know it can not be completely ended. But it is to long and to much.
I have the same grave concerns when parents abuse or neglect their children, or other social injustices that have such a negative impact on society.
What makes this different from the others I mentioned above is what I described in my previous post about training, funding, authorization, etc.
 

JosephsDreams

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Why is that in Europe these type of incidents rarely happen, as compared to here?
You don't think there is a problem here?
 

JosephsDreams

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Your just typecasting me now. I am a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment. I also don't like Obama, believe people are accountable for their actions, that the family is the bedrock of our society, sex before marriage is sin. I don't like the killing of animals for eating them.
That most cops are doing great jobs.
Your just proving what I said in my previous statement that some of you here are not carrying your thoughts deep enough, That you have a mindset in your head about what people are about based on snippets of conversation.
It took how long for you to get to know your wife?
How can you say you know my thoughts about the guns based on these comments?
And one day, whenever it comes, many cops, especially Christian cops, will be fighting side by side with civilians against the rule of satan and the government. We'll need all the guns we can get.
You don't think the technology will get to the point that they will be able to deactivate your gun when your off duty?
 
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Because the US loves a good scandal that is why. And you don't think it is our sin nature that causes bad shootings? I'm done discussing this with anyone on this forum. You are head hunting and that is plain and simple. Just like the liberals in our country. Go find something more constructive to do, like read your bible.
 

JosephsDreams

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I read my bible everyday. Because I am on here 20-30 minutes a day doesn't mean I don't read it. And I do try and pray that I do apply it's lessons, if that is what your suggesting.
I am not head hunting, Your saying things in these posts that are just about me that are just not true.
And I am doing something constructive here. Bringing to the forefront this grave injustice, the killing of innocent souls, people with families, all the potential lost, is a constructive thing. Maybe it will in some small way instigate people to look at this issue differently and domino effect some needed changes.
I know God can't be happy with these killings.
Oh, and by the way, I also had a long talk with someone from Amnesty International when I was in NYC last week. A man who just graduated college and who was volunteering his time, talking to people on the hot streets in NY, because he believes that things have to change. I have decided to donate money to them in the hope will stop these murders.

It is sad and unfortunate that Christians sometimes come to this in their conversations. Your already struggling with a battle, you need to keep a positive attitude and a healthy immune system.
May the Lord bless us all here in unity and love despite our differences.
 
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And I am sure you guys are all okay with this one too.
And don't start with the he had a record lame excuse. So what?? In this particular incident he did nothing that warranted him being killed.
How many cops have records, it is just that they are not public. Records of wife beating, hit and runs, cheating, and so on. And yes, many do these things. So don't get all sanctimonious like they are so much better then the average citizen. They are on the wrong side of the ledger too, if it weren't for Jesus they would be condemned.
In fact, we Christians are of the mind that people are sinful in our core, yet the first thing some of you want to do is assume that because someone is a police officer, he has not hate in him for blacks, has no sinful emotions.
The height of hypocrisy some of you. In some cases, yes, they are guilty until proven innocent. Just the same way you all want to do when you say that so and so had a record, so he deserved to be killed.
Some of you here need to think about this instead of your knee jerk reactions because of your personal interests or your brainwashing.

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You talk about love well your comments here in red are anything but love. Hypocrite much? And don't use my Cancer for your political attacks on cops. I can handle my cancer and dealing with Cop haters at the same time. You have been reported.
 

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Calm down guy. You are taking these shootings personal and you are (removed )acting like a I agree with what I saw on the video that he shouldn't have been shot. That officer should be charged and fired. You attack us who defend law enforcement for no reason. Stop with your attitude and come back to reality.
please do not make things personal
 
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please do not make things personal
Lol his posts are all personal with his attacks on Law Enforcement. But you choose to single my post out. You sir can delete my account.
 
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