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heres another jew against israeli violence in gaza is he anti semetic too
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These are the foot soldiers of Islam, encouraged in secret by the Islamic world leaders. Listen to the rehtoric, listen how they claim they will take Paris and Brussels. This is the true goal and face of Islam.

Again I point out that majority of people do not want any part of what the soliders of thier cuase fight for. I do not see people celebrating the fire bombing of Dresden in WWII for example.

These soldiers of Islam will be called all sorts of things to enable the Islamic population grow and live in relative peace, while the secret war continues.

[video=youtube;ZmGRshS0PAw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmGRshS0PAw#t=48[/video]
 
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Prodigal, why are you derailing this thread into a lets hate Israel thread? As a moderator you should know better!
 
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Is this topic about France and Islam or is it about Britain and Israel?
 
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Prodigal, why are you derailing this thread into a lets hate Israel thread? As a moderator you should know better!
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sorry didn't mean to but i was accused of being anti semetic because someone connected the situation in gaza (i.e. shiite moslems (where we agree to disagree) to terrorist sunni moslems, and i tried to lay out the differences).. i wud prefer to get of the zionist subject as it goes round in circle.
 
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well 1 kings 11:11 is a good read and so is galations 3:16-24 , then ur see where i stand
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You use these verses and passages to justify your erroneous view that Israel has been abandoned by God. But you do not understand what your are reading. In 1 Kings 11:11, Solomon is told he will be punished by God for sin -- idolatry. But God did not negate His promise in the Abrahamic Covenant that spiritual/national Israel combined would see the the fulfillment of that promise, which God made without requirement of Abraham or his descendants. You need to read Genesis 15:6-21 for understanding.

If you claim Galatians 3:16-24 as basis for your misconceptions, you must ignore the second verse of that passage.

Galatians 3, NASB
17 What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. [My emphasis added]​

Not only do you misunderstand Scripture, but you don't even understand what Zionism is. The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum. Its general definition means the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel. That's all it is. You must abandon your antisemitism -- and that is what you are guilty of -- and see the Mideast situation for what it is: A war by Satan against God's chosen people, not just Israel spiritually and nationally, but all Christianity as well, given that our promises are just as irrevocable as those given Israel, but are just as in jeopardy of being trampled by terrorist thugs whose misguided efforts come directly from the father or lies.
 
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Viligant_Warrior said:
You use these verses and passages to justify your erroneous view that Israel has been abandoned by God. But you do not understand what your are reading. In 1 Kings 11:11, Solomon is told he will be punished by God for sin -- idolatry. But God did not negate His promise in the Abrahamic Covenant that spiritual/national Israel combined would see the the fulfillment of that promise, which God made without requirement of Abraham or his descendants. You need to read Genesis 15:6-21 for understanding.



If you claim Galatians 3:16-24 as basis for your misconceptions, you mustignore the second verse of that passage.
Galatians 3, NASB
17 What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. [My emphasis added]​

Not only do you misunderstand Scripture, but you don't even understand what Zionism is. The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum. Its general definition means the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel. That's all it is. You must abandon your antisemitism -- and that is what you are guilty of -- and see the Mideast situation for what it is: A war by Satan against God's chosen people, not just Israel spiritually and nationally, but all Christianity as well, given that our promises are just as irrevocable as those given Israel, but are just as in jeopardy of being trampled by terrorist thugs whose misguided efforts come directly from the father or lies.
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of course and i dont understand that until Darby nobody ever read scripture in the zionist form and spurgeon was tottally against Derby who put out of the plymouth brethren anyone who disagreed with him.. and then scoffield i dont know that it was him that run with the idea, and i dont know that moody took it on from him and i dont know that although 70% of american christians are zionists, here the false doctrine was fought against and only 30% are zionist christians and if only i was as studied as you,,, laughable
 
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of course and i dont understand that until Darby nobody ever read scripture in the zionist form and spurgeon was tottally against Derby who put out of the plymouth brethren anyone who disagreed with him.. and then scoffield i dont know that it was him that run with the idea, and i dont know that moody took it on from him and i dont know that although 70% of american christians are zionists, here the false doctrine was fought against and only 30% are zionist christians and if only i was as studied as you,,, laughable
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One big runon sentence like that would tend to make people think you're angry. Are you angry, Prodigal?

If you're going to claim these ridiculous things, you're going to have to explain away this passage:

Ezekiel 20, NASB
33 "As I live," declares the Lord GOD, "surely with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out, I shall be king over you.
34 "I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you from the lands where you are scattered, with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out;
35 and I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will enter into judgment with you face to face.
36 "As I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you," declares the Lord GOD.
37 "I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:​

You're also going to have to successfully dispose of All of Ezekiel 36 and 37 and 40-42. Tell me please, how do you plan to do that?
 
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One big runon sentence like that would tend to make people think you're angry. Are you angry, Prodigal?

If you're going to claim these ridiculous things, you're going to have to explain away this passage:
Ezekiel 20, NASB
33 "As I live," declares the Lord GOD, "surely with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out, I shall be king over you.
34 "I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you from the lands where you are scattered, with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out;
35 and I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will enter into judgment with you face to face.
36 "As I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you," declares the Lord GOD.
37 "I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:​

You're also going to have to successfully dispose of All of Ezekiel 36 and 37 and 40-42. Tell me please, how do you plan to do that?
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as i said before paul says there is no longer jew or gentile, that jesus is the seed and we are grafted in to receive the promises, which were given to abraham. 400 years before the covenant with moses, i believe that covenant was conditional, i belief 1kings11 shows that solomon lost the kingdom and the only surviving tribe was that of judah to keep the promise given to Abraham thru to david, i belief that promise was christ and he was the fulfilment of the laws and the prophets...and from there then the promises thru Jesus are for us christians. i cant see where we are called to support those outside of the faith other than to bring them into the faith. and when they do they are equal heirs with us, i think the prophecies here are talking of Jesus ,

its ok to have a different view but that doesn't invalidate my view, we can agree to disagree thats fine.
 
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For the record, this thread was NOT closed by the Moderator that was involved in the debate.
 
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