New Report Shows First Amendment Liberties In Rapid Declining Under Liberalism

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krow

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SonInMe said:
Please give us information where liberalism is truly tolerant and supports free speech. A story. Some facts.

Calling people names may be effective but what you just did David_1 proves the point of this thread and the hypocrisy of the supposedly tolerant ideology of liberalism.

All ya gotta do is let liberals talk.
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When you say free speech you do realize that DOESN'T mean you can literally say ANYTHING you want right? It's never been that way.

Defamation, Slander, screaming fire in a crowded place when there is none, publishing information that is meant to say private for the safety of the nation such things come to mind. All the issues popping up about Christians and not wanting to give glbt their business are a little silly though, simply because glbt people could go somewhere else or Christians could just show some love, respect, and understanding and treat them like others and bake their cake for them or whatever service they give. BUT NOOOO THE WORLD IS TOO MESSED UP FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. Common sense is what is really dying. I think it's bleeding and crawling across the floor with war wounds and blades sticking out of it..
 
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Criticizing immigration or homosexuality (not even people just the topics) in liberal Sweden is a crime. They put you jail for that and levy heavy fines. But liberal "activists" connected to the liberal party in power violently assault the person and property of social democrats that want to limit immigration, stop the 1 in 4 Swedish women from being raped that are currently being raped over the course of their lifetime (77% of the time by non-Swedish immigrants), and see a more moral society.

I think you need to rethink what we're talking about here when we say free speech. We're not talking about yelling fire in a crowded auditorium friend. We're talking about the right to speak freely about people, places, and things.

Intolerant authoritarian/totalitarian "liberals" are trying (and realizing success in various places) to unliberally stop anyone who disagrees with them from exercising free speech even when it means violating their human rights under natural law and severely persecuting them (which also persecutes their families) with prison, fines, etc...


krow said:
When you say free speech you do realize that DOESN'T mean you can literally say ANYTHING you want right? It's never been that way.

Defamation, Slander, screaming fire in a crowded place when there is none, publishing information that is meant to say private for the safety of the nation such things come to mind. All the issues popping up about Christians and not wanting to give glbt their business are a little silly though, simply because glbt people could go somewhere else or Christians could just show some love, respect, and understanding and treat them like others and bake their cake for them or whatever service they give. BUT NOOOO THE WORLD IS TOO MESSED UP FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. Common sense is what is really dying. I think it's bleeding and crawling across the floor with war wounds and blades sticking out of it..
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I cannot treat practices that are sin and hurt people with respect and I won't.

We are all sinners. That does not keep us from saying sin is a sin.

To NOT say sin is a sin is anti-love. Of course there are better ways to say that than others but in the public arena I should be able to express a position without being thrown in jail. Thats why we allow the KKK to march.

Freedom allows stupid people to do stupid things. Its only in tyrannies where stupid people are kept from doing stupid things.
 
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AgeofKnowledge said:
Sweden criminalizes speech.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire

New Swedish Law Criminalizes Anti-immigration Internet Speech

ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF SWEDEN passes law to criminalize any criticism of Muslim immigration | BARE NAKED ISLAM

Criminalizing Christianity: Sweden's Hate Speech Law - Al Mohler

Sweden passes law that will prosecute people for criticizing immigration | EUTimes.net
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I agree people should be protected but not laws or decisions.

Having said at least one of your links you have provided are into scaremongering where the facts tend to tell a different story.

Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets | World news | The Guardian

Scaremongering seems to be the tactic of choice these days to remove civil liberties.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I chose those links at random as a sampling of what's out there. The fact that you would concentrate on a link instead of the problem of the removal of civil liberties by the left says more about you than it does the link.

And scaremongering isn't the problem but rather the removal of civil liberties by the left; specifically the right to speak freely about people, places, and things which is the topic.

The fact you care about a few people "scaremongering," as you call it, instead of the removal of civil liberties by the left does not reflect well on you at all.


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I agree people should be protected but not laws or decisions.

Having said at least one of your links you have provided are into scaremongering where the facts tend to tell a different story.

Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets | World news | The Guardian

Scaremongering seems to be the tactic of choice these days to remove civil liberties.
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AgeofKnowledge said:
I chose those links at random as a sampling of what's out there. The fact that you would concentrate on a link instead of the problem of the removal of civil liberties by the left says more about you than it does the link.

And scaremongering isn't the problem but rather the removal of civil liberties by the left; specifically the right to speak freely about people, places, and things which is the topic.

The fact you care about a few people "scaremongering," as you call it, instead of the removal of civil liberties by the left does not reflect well on you at all.
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It does not really matter how I am perceived as long as my comment is understood.

I agreed with you on the removal of civil liberties. I was highlighting that a tactic used to remove civil liberties is scaremongering and the people who are against immigration are also using that.
 
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